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If ireland had 24 hour bars

  • 21-06-2011 11:50pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭


    Reading about the off licence thread got me thinking,what would Ireland be like if had 24 hour bars,would antisocial behaviour go down by people leaving at their own time?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭Cypher_sounds


    It would be very hard to understand most posts on boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Reading about the off licence thread got me thinking,what would Ireland be like if had 24 hour bars,would antisocial behaviour go down by people leaving at their own time?
    It would probably look a lot like this pic from the 3 Months later thread!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    You'd have drunk people on the roads 24 hours a day instead of just 6 hours per weekend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    You would have people coming in smelling of drink to work and that would be right at all..oh wait, happens already! Novelty would probably wear off after a while I'd say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    Antisocial behaviour probably would stay much the same.

    Pubs would make more money thats for sure. More people will call joe duffy about not being able to sleep with the fights and trouble making more spread out over the night.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    Why dont we have this though?!
    24hr bars and 24hr cinemas all the way i say :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    24hr takeaways to join the bars..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    candy-gal1 wrote: »
    Why dont we have this though?!
    24hr bars and 24hr cinemas all the way i say :D

    2 hours worth of sh1te films being shown every day is more than enough. You'd need 24 hours of drinking to forget about some of the tripe being shown these days


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    It will be somebodys vision of Heaven and somebody else vision of Hell :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    why stop there, lets have everything 24/7.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,067 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    I wouldn't be on boards right now.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭bc dub


    it would only work in the cities of larger counties or probably just Dublin. **** the rest of ya's


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    I wouldn't be on boards right now.....

    where would you be ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    hondasam wrote: »
    why stop there, lets have everything 24/7.
    Joe Duffy 24/7?

    People would be only calling in to complain that the beardy bollocks is always on the radio!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭policarp


    There would'nt hoardes of drunks herded onto the streets at closing time looking for fights, more drinks, taxis etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    policarp wrote: »
    There would'nt hoardes of drunks herded onto the streets at closing time looking for fights, more drinks, taxis etc.

    they'll leave of their own accord to look for fights or be kicked out of the place. a trouble maker is a trouble maker regardless of what time they walk out the door of a pub


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Mister Jingles


    We'd see a sequel of this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    hondasam wrote: »
    why stop there, lets have everything 24/7.

    Everything should be allowed to be 24/7. What we have in Ireland is an unofficial curfew, with the Gards clearing the streets of Dublin at around 4am. It's ridiculous.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    It would be very hard to understand most posts on boards.
    harder

    anyway, panic drinking slowed down with late licenses. it should happen but for all pubs. it never will though, long as Nightclubs are owned by politicians and/or their supporters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭The Scientician


    I'd be dead by now, or at the very least unemployed/able.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭Cypher_sounds


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    harder

    Wtf? are you drunk:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭ap1986


    minimizes the amount of peoples on the street and in take aways so therefore less fights due to the large amount of people leaving the clubs at the exact time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    It would make absolutely no difference whatsoever

    Drunks will get drunk

    Others won't


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Everything should be allowed to be 24/7. What we have in Ireland is an unofficial curfew, with the Gards clearing the streets of Dublin at around 4am. It's ridiculous.

    Can't see it happening any time soon, if anything we seem to be going back in time with a lot of places closing earlier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭nice_very


    Ruu wrote: »
    You would have people coming in smelling of drink to work and that would be right at all..oh wait, happens already! Novelty would probably wear off after a while I'd say.

    I have to agree..

    also..

    How about a phased in system of categorising bars say: A,B,C A=2am, B=4am, C=6am to start off with, I think it would encourage people to slow down their drinking, or go home voluntarily when they want to, not when big brother tells them too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    nice_very wrote: »
    I have to agree..

    also..

    How about a phased in system of categorising bars say: A,B,C A=2am, B=4am, C=6am to start off with, I think it would encourage people to slow down their drinking, or go home voluntarily when they want to, not when big brother tells them too.

    Can't see that imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    Its silly really - Should be allowed close whenever they like - less people on the streets, more taxi's available, less binge drinking, hospitals not being inundated with emergencies at 2.30am approximately.

    pubs should be allowed 14hrs a day - they should have to state on the licence what there opening hours are every year.

    In carlow - 3-5k people are landed on the street every weekend. Thats 1 street by the way. It makes the mind boggle.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭brian2me


    it would come down to supply and demand, certain pubs business may filter out at midnight, others earlier and others later. No publican will justify staying open till 6 in the morning unless business is good. Not everyone will stay out all night with work the next morning.

    It works in Europe and is a more enjoyable experience. no queues for taxi's or food where emotions can get irrational and volatile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Can't see that imo

    Are you blind? the pre close rush is on par with any stampeding herd you'll find in the serengeti.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    people who are going out on the p1ss will drink just as much no matter what
    it's just a question of whether you want to have them stumbling home at 4am, or 8am. The 4am option will have less of an impact on the rest of society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    ardinn wrote: »
    Are you blind? the pre close rush is on par with any stampeding herd you'll find in the serengeti.

    Might encourage a small slow down with the last couple of drinks, as you say at closing time, the ordering of a couple of beers rather than one, but come on, people here just drink too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭nice_very


    It makes logical sense, IMO, anyone who has worked in a busy night-spot would agree that one of the busiest times of the night is the last half hour.

    Makes more sense that people would realise theres somewhere to move on to and keep the night going, and not buy/drink those last 2 rushed pints at 2am.

    Less hassle in clearing bars, as people would move off of their own accord.

    Reduce numbers in take-away/taxi outlets (as other poster said)

    All leading to: less frustration at being told to go home, and not treated like a child.. Which I think causes a lot of the problems we see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Roomic Cube


    I'd be working in a pub then, with those sort of hours who could say no, the pay'd be great!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    If it was brought in there would be initial carnage as people who aren’t used to it and lack self control would just not stop drinking that would and should be down to the individual and I think we should have the option of places being open 24 hours as we shouldn’t create legislation simply because idiots can’t control themselves when sensible people can. The good thing is that if it was implemented correctly it would stagger the times at which people leave places so that you don’t get one time where all the pubs empty and people flood the streets looking for taxis, food, somewhere else they can drink, or a fight.

    The problem would be that even though you could legally stay open 24 hours only very few places would. A business like a bar can’t stay open 24 hours it needs at some point to close to clean and staffing a place 24 hours a day is expensive and you just won’t get the trade to pay for it at 6 o’clock in the morning. This means that only one or two big places would stay open 24 hours for maybe one or two nights a week with everywhere else closing at around the same times anyway and won’t really change much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭nice_very


    One of the points Im trying to make is that IMO I think its a lot to do with "being allowed" sell/buy a drink at whatever time of day or night.

    I think, down through the centuries, we Irish have learnt to be "rebellious" to being told what to do... add drink to that and it heightens that behaviour,, We are famous the world over for having the craic and the beers, not for fighting in the streets for a taxi/chipper at 3am, and I would say a vast majority of people are like that. (craic and beer, not fighting)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    Doc wrote: »
    If it was brought in there would be initial carnage as people who aren’t used to it and lack self control would just not stop drinking that would and should be down to the individual and I think we should have the option of places being open 24 hours as we shouldn’t create legislation simply because idiots can’t control themselves when sensible people can. The good thing is that if it was implemented correctly it would stagger the times at which people leave places so that you don’t get one time where all the pubs empty and people flood the streets looking for taxis, food, somewhere else they can drink, or a fight.

    The problem would be that even though you could legally stay open 24 hours only very few places would. A business like a bar can’t stay open 24 hours it needs at some point to close to clean and staffing a place 24 hours a day is expensive and you just won’t get the trade to pay for it at 6 o’clock in the morning. This means that only one or two big places would stay open 24 hours for maybe one or two nights a week with everywhere else closing at around the same times anyway and won’t really change much.

    Agreed.

    When ever I go on holidays there is a certain club I frequent, it closes when it starts to get quiet, - if its busy, it stays open. Simples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ringadingding


    I Live in a city with 24 hr drinking laws, my thoughts are that it should be introduced, people will go mad for a couple of years, but then it will calm down, certain pubs/clubs will become destinations for certain times of the day and the novelty will wear off.

    What you'll find though, is that only a handful of places will stay open past 6am.

    If the rest of Europe can manage it, surely it's do-able


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 NotSoSeriously


    Doc wrote: »
    The problem would be that even though you could legally stay open 24 hours only very few places would. A business like a bar can’t stay open 24 hours it needs at some point to close to clean and staffing a place 24 hours a day is expensive and you just won’t get the trade to pay for it at 6 o’clock in the morning. This means that only one or two big places would stay open 24 hours for maybe one or two nights a week with everywhere else closing at around the same times anyway and won’t really change much.

    I don't see the problem here. I agree only a few places would stay open because not everyone is going to want to stay out all night drinking so not all places can afford to stay open. That's the whole point. If you want go home, you go home, you want stay out drinking, you stay out drinking ... and these places will cater for your wants. No stress, no queues, live like a human ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 happo


    I think for the vast majority of people it would extend their Friday/Saturday night from 2-4am to 6-7am.

    I live in a city with 24 hour bars and the only time they are really busy is from about 2am to 7am on Weekend nights.

    Personally I am afraid of 24 hours bars, they take all my money and give me a 3 day hangover :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 NotSoSeriously


    happo wrote: »
    I think for the vast majority of people it would extend their Friday/Saturday night from 2-4am to 6-7am.

    I live in a city with 24 hour bars and the only time they are really busy is from about 2am to 7am on Weekend nights.

    Personally I am afraid of 24 hours bars, they take all my money and give me a 3 day hangover :(

    You live in a city with 24 hour bars. Can I ask you some questions?

    Do your friday/saturday nights always go on until 6-7am? Do you constantly have a hangover? Have you any money left?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    bonerm wrote: »
    You'd have drunk people on the roads 24 hours a day instead of just 6 hours per weekend.

    Did you study logic at trinners?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    I personally think it should be introduced, as its already been stated I think most fights,disturbances happen because of the closing hours you have a mass influx of people going into take aways, or trying to get taxis all drunk its a recipe for a disaster if you think about it. Yes a some people are just idiots but having less idiots on the street at the same time would result in less trouble.

    Also ive always founds myself when ive been in European cities with 24hr drinking to be a lot more responsible , ill go home when I feel tired or drunk whatever the time may be, were as in Ireland youll often be standing in a bar a 2a.m realise the time and make a mad dash for the bar to buy more drink which is foloowed by staff rushing you to drink up and get of the premises which in turn has people throwing drink down there neck which is never a good idea as it leads to higher levels of intoxication.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 happo


    You live in a city with 24 hour bars. Can I ask you some questions?

    Do your friday/saturday nights always go on until 6-7am? Do you constantly have a hangover? Have you any money left?

    No, I average a 6-7am night every 2-3 months. I really do try and avoid them now. However when I was younger and it was new to me, yes most weekends would have been like this.

    When I use to go them a lot, I would be like a zombie in work on a Monday even with going to bed early on a Sunday night. Also it is very hard on the pocket if you go most weekends. Once I withdrew $200 at about 3am and the following morning I had about $20 in my pocket in change. Bit vague on where I spent it. Did not help the hangover :)

    I have really grown out of them now but I have friends who do it each weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭nice_very


    OPENROAD, I dont know if you are trying to troll me or what.. but why do you keep picking on my posts, disagreeing with me every time, when other posters are saying basically the same thing, yet you dont reply to them?


    on-topic: I ran a bar abroad (europe) for 3 years, and can count on 1 hand the number of fights/people asking for "late drinks," combined.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    nice_very wrote: »
    OPENROAD, I dont know if you are trying to troll me or what.. but why do you keep picking on my posts, disagreeing with me every time, when other posters are saying basically the same thing, yet you dont reply to them?


    on-topic: I ran a bar abroad (europe) for 3 years, and can count on 1 hand the number of fights/people asking for "late drinks," combined.

    Not at all, I'm not that type of poster :) I replied to two of your posts, I just happen to disagree with you that is all, am I not entitled to my own opinion ? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭nice_very


    ...and yet, if you look through the thread, others have said the exact same as me, yet you have not called them on it.. just wondering why

    of course you are entitled to an opinion, and I welcome discussion.. I just dont see why my posts are the posts you keep quoting and argueing against, when a lot of ther posters are saying the same things....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    nice_very wrote: »
    ...and yet, if you look through the thread, others have said the exact same as me, yet you have not called them on it.. just wondering why

    :confused:

    Are you being serious?

    I also replied to someone disagreeing , I am hardly going to reply to every post in the thread, boards doesn't work like that :)

    Edit: I have only replied to two of your posts out of a total of four relevant posts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    great now its about arguing about who'se arguing

    must remember tomorrow morning to check how this one turned out


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