Families Struggling to feed themselves...

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 18-06-2011 11:13PM

RachaelVO wrote: »

You don't think that the banks and the FF led governments have a huge part to play in all of the abject misery people are going through? Everyone was told the champagne was gonna keep flowing, and who wouldn't want to be caught up in that?

Alot of imbeciles took the bait and fell for mortgages bigger than their income,most people knew the good times wouldnt had last,unfortunately those who told us to pipe down on it not lasting have escaped the backlash,the warning signs where there-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THWbrFy5NWM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfjGSfuSQpA

RachaelVO · 18-06-2011 11:18PM

Veronica Plain Wallet wrote: »

Alot of imbeciles took the bait and fell for mortgages bigger than their income,most people knew the good times wouldnt had last,unfortunately those who told us to pipe down on it not lasting have escaped the backlash,the warning signs where there-

I know! Sure Charlies McCreevey said it as far back as 2002! He knew it was coming, but got ignored!

It still doesn't stop the fact that people are going hungry, and unfortunately that's not over stating it!

spider guardian · 18-06-2011 11:20PM

RachaelVO wrote: »

I only seen the thead I posted. It could well have been the times one you posted alright. Having read that article, I can't see why it would have been deleted though. If you know better...

I can only assume it was locked because there was a lot of abuse being dished out in that thread. Also the article subject's doddy is a solicitor specialising in defamation. Probably threatened to make boards.ie's owners eat their own **** in open court

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 18-06-2011 11:20PM

i do of course have sympathy for those who struggle to make ends meet,at the same time,there where many who took on more than they should,i remember getting mbna credit card application forms in the post every week!.

RachaelVO · 18-06-2011 11:22PM

spider guardian wrote: »

I can only assume it was locked because there was a lot of abuse being dished out in that thread. Also the article subject's doddy is a solicitor specialising in defamation. Probably threatened to make boards.ie's owners eat their own **** in open court

Could well be! I didn't see any of it though

Kinda raging I didn't now!

spider guardian · 18-06-2011 11:43PM

RachaelVO wrote: »

Could well be! I didn't see any of it though
Kinda raging I didn't now!

It was a good thread! Some of the finest D4-bashing I have seen in many's a blue moon. If only the D4 intelligentsia ever bothered looking at this forum I am sure they would have been choking on their mojitos

Laois_Man · 18-06-2011 11:46PM

Veronica Plain Wallet wrote: »

Alot of imbeciles took the bait and fell for mortgages bigger than their income,most people knew the good times wouldnt had last,unfortunately those who told us to pipe down on it not lasting have escaped the backlash,the warning signs where there-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THWbrFy5NWM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfjGSfuSQpA

most people don't have economic degrees and didn't understand the effect a property crash would have on their incomes if they weren't actually employed in construction or by an auctioneer.

And most people certainly didn't know how much crap the banks were in. Even the minister for finance himself didn't know that a full year after the bank guarantee.

And there is NO such thing as a loan you can guarantee to be able to pay back. For ANYONE.

I was told about 4 months ago by a lady who works with St. Vincent de Paul. You wouldn't believe the number of families in my town who are living on a diet of dry pasta and literally nothing else. Now I've never missed a loan payment yet. But that frightens the life out of me. And for all the smug people looking down on them, it should frighten the life out of you too. Cos as I said, NOBODY can guarantee they'll always meet their obligations. And nobody can guarantee that if or when Ireland defaults or if or when the Euro collapses, that they too won't be enjoying a diet of dry pasta!

RachaelVO · 18-06-2011 11:50PM

Laois_Man wrote: »

most people don't have economic degrees and didn't understand the effect a property crash would have on their incomes if they weren't actually employed in construction or by an auctioneer.

And most people certainly didn't know how much crap the banks were in. Even the minister for finance himself didn't know that a full year after the bank guarantee.

And there is NO such thing as a loan you can guarantee to be able to pay back. For ANYONE.

I was told about 4 months ago by a lady who works with St. Vincent de Paul. You wouldn't believe the number of families in my town who are living on a diet of dry pasta and literally nothing else. Now I've never missed a loan payment yet. But that frightens the life out of me. And for all the smug people looking down on them, it should frighten the life out of you too. Cos as I said, NOBODY can guarantee they'll always meet their obligations. And nobody can guarantee that if or when Ireland defaults or if or when the Euro collapses, that they too won't be enjoying a diet of dry pasta!

A voice of reason and sanity! Well said!

Wolflikeme · 18-06-2011 11:52PM

Laois_Man wrote: »

And what should they have done instead? Commit to a lifetime of paying rent they couldn't afford either? Or perhaps raise their kids under a cabbage leaf?

How about buying a house that was feasible instead of the biggest house they could buy (again, not afford).

Buying something feasible doesn't mean settling for less as some of these people seem to think.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 18-06-2011 11:54PM

Laois_Man wrote: »

And most people certainly didn't know how much crap the banks were in. Even the minister for finance himself didn't know that a full year after the bank guarantee.

Surely they could had put a stop on the gravy train and even had a harsh or reverse budget at time instead of a free for all had back in 2005,surely any minister knew for a "booming" economy we couldnt had exported houses,look at the 05 budget,there was one for everyone in the audience!-

http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/1207/budget.html

RachaelVO · 18-06-2011 11:56PM

Wolflikeme wrote: »

How about buying a house that was feasible instead of the biggest house they could buy (again, not afford).

Buying something feasible doesn't mean settling for less as some of these people seem to think.

That's not an answer. You're right, but what's the point in saying I told ya so! That gives nobody a solution. Children being brought to soup kitchens, and their parents relying on food parcels is not good enough!

RachaelVO · 18-06-2011 11:58PM

Veronica Plain Wallet wrote: »

Surely they could had put a stop on the gravy train and even had a harsh or reverse budget at time instead of a free for all had back in 2005,surely any minister knew for a "booming" economy we couldnt had exported houses,look at the 05 budget,there was one for everyone in the audience!-

http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/1207/budget.html

Again, hindsight is the clearest vision, it's still not right that people are being driven to point of suicide because they can't feed their families and they don't see any way out!

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 19-06-2011 12:00AM

Seems to be nothing said by those in office about reducing or doing something about the savage pensions and pay offs the last shower received.

Laois_Man · 19-06-2011 12:19AM

Wolflikeme wrote: »

How about buying a house that was feasible instead of the biggest house they could buy (again, not afford).

Buying something feasible doesn't mean settling for less as some of these people seem to think.

the biggest house they could buy?
What nonsense!
I know hardly anybody who bought anything more spectacular than at most, a 3 bed semi detached!

These are the people in most trouble. Not people who bought austentatious country estates!

crackcrack30 · 19-06-2011 02:21AM

I dont think it was wrong for people to want to own their own house/home, infact quite the oppsite. I think the problem started when everyone wanted two houses (the mini-developer / landlord phenomenon)...........2p
Also the price of homes was decided by how much the average joe industrial wage earner could borrow (in a 3 way conspiry ie banks, gov and auctioneers) rather than how much the frigging land blocks and labour cost to build it

Crazy Horse 6 · 21-06-2011 08:16AM

irishbird wrote: »

good lad, spending your money outside the country, thats really going to help

I could care less tbh. Vote yes for europe remember that one big open market or is that just when it suits the elite.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 21-06-2011 10:03AM

This article, as any article from that piece of shít newspaper, is a load of balls.

ENTIRE families are going to homeless centres for their dinner every evening.

Before the recession, the Capuchin Day Centre for the homeless in Dublin would rarely have seen children coming through its doors -- but now up to 10 families a day are coming coming in to get fed.

It doesn't state that these families are not your run of the mill hard working families. When I worked there during the recession, I didn't see any Irish families looking for grub. It was the Romas who came in after a hard day of begging on the streets looking for some free food.

Many of the families are struggling to pay large mortgages taken out during the boom.

Am I to have pity on these fools? Struggling to pay large mortgages... GTFO.

They are worried about losing their homes and literally do not have enough money to put bread on the table, says Brother Kevin Crowley, who runs the shelter.

Downsize? But what a crazy idea, how could I even suggest this madness.

He says that there are four times the amount of people arriving today compared with a few years ago.

Some of those now seeking help are professionals such as engineers and architects who would have been earning a very good wage during the boom years.

"It's not just homeless people who come to us, its anyone who is in need. We are getting lots of families with children coming in," he says. "Many of them have lost their jobs, and are on the verge of losing their homes. All that has increased in the past few years."

Brother Crowley points out that before the recession hit, the centre would usually have about 100 people for dinner, but now more than 450 come to eat there each day.

Despair

The number of people collecting food parcels every Wednesday has increased from 400 to more than 1,000 in the same period.

"There are professional people -- some architects and engineers -- coming in who can't pay their mortgages and are in despair.

"It's really frightening for people," Brother Crowley adds.

The Capuchin brother yesterday launched a charity cycle from Dublin to Mayo in aid of the well-known centre.

A group of 24 gardai and prison officers who completed the trip are due to arrive on their bikes in Belmullet, Co Mayo, this afternoon.

They broke the marathon 310km cycle with an overnight stop in Carrick-on-Shannon, Co Leitrim.

The Capuchin Day Centre's running costs are €1.3m, of which €450,000 comes from the Government, with the remainder coming from fundraising events such as the cycle and charitable donations from the public.

For more details on the cycle challenge and how to donate to the centre see www.homeless.ie.

- Fergal Gallagher

Great place, but it couldn't accomodate tossers who can't afford their mortgages, who actually have a roof over their heads. Many people who attend this shelter are really in need, then there are those halfwits who Fergal "the gob****e" Gallagher speaks of, the arseholes who are only in need of help to keep their social statuses... ****...

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