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Phat Cat · 06-06-2011 5:12pm

parker kent wrote: »

I read £37,500. So varying amounts being bandied about. Perhaps it was £10,000 per treatment.

Possibly. I read conflicting stories on that judge from Dancing on Ice also, some reports said that he paid £12k and others said £35k.

IMO paying nearly £40k for a hair transplant seems way too much.

Otis Driftwood · 06-06-2011 5:16pm

Whats 40k to Rooney though?(if that is in fact what he paid)It wouldnt surprise me one bit if he got it done free of charge tbh.That kind of publicity for the clinic would be like gold dust.

Phat Cat · 06-06-2011 5:21pm

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

Whats 40k to Rooney though?(if that is in fact what he paid)It wouldnt surprise me one bit if he got it done free of charge tbh.That kind of publicity for the clinic would be like gold dust.

Yeah Rooney is on £200k per week so he's not exactly going to break the bank, but for a regular Joe Soap that's more then a years salary.

Your point about the publicity is spot on though, I'd say they probably paid him to get it done more then anything else. It would be a brilliant publicity stunt if that was the case.

parker kent · 06-06-2011 5:21pm

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

Whats 40k to Rooney though?(if that is in fact what he paid)It wouldnt surprise me one bit if he got it done free of charge tbh.That kind of publicity for the clinic would be like gold dust.

Ah it is nothing to him but just pointing out that it is more expensive than 10K. It is maybe less than half his weekly take home pay, so he may as well spend it.

Napper Hawkins · 06-06-2011 5:41pm

He could probably afford to give us all hair transplants, the sod. Just sayin.

Otis Driftwood · 06-06-2011 6:35pm

Luckily I dont need one.

:cool:

Phat Cat · 06-06-2011 6:49pm

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

Luckily I dont need one.

:cool:

Yet

Mervin J Minky · 06-06-2011 9:15pm

It seems like he is not the only one:

Wesley Sneijder in June 2010

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and in March 2011

Napper Hawkins · 06-06-2011 9:27pm

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

Luckily I dont need one.

:cool:

Neither do I, but it's threatening to be a reality in the next few years, hopefully not.

Otis Driftwood · 06-06-2011 9:44pm

Not me anyway.Im 32 and have a ridiculously thick head of hair.My uncles on both sides are exactly the same and so is my Dad and he is 58.

sollar · 06-06-2011 10:27pm

But Wayne was shaping up to lose most of his hair on top. How will that work now with his transplant. Will he not continue to lose more and more of the original hair on top and just be left with the transplanted hair?

DublinWriter · 06-06-2011 11:02pm

sollar wrote: »

But Wayne was shaping up to lose most of his hair on top. How will that work now with his transplant. Will he not continue to lose more and more of the original hair on top and just be left with the transplanted hair?

Yes, I remember years ago during the dot.com era, a mate of mine was working as a barber in a very high-end Dublin salon.

One customer had come into a lot of money as a result of having his company floated and had spent upwards of £50K on hair transplants.

As more of his own hair began to fall out, all he was left with was the very patchy pattern of the original transplant.

Said customer gave up on the transplants and it would have turned out to be a very high-maintenance activity for the rest of his life and resorted to just shaving his head.

Regarding Rooney, as Daire O'Brien once said..."would ya look at the head on him". If I were him, I'd seriously consider a personality transplant first.

Phat Cat · 07-06-2011 12:22am

sollar wrote: »

But Wayne was shaping up to lose most of his hair on top. How will that work now with his transplant. Will he not continue to lose more and more of the original hair on top and just be left with the transplanted hair?

Good point actually, but he can well afford to go back for further treatments.

I'd say these type of hair transplants only work on guys that are totally bald on top and have lots of hair around the sides. That way you don't have anymore hair too lose and the implanted hair from around the sides will grow like it always does, but just on top of the head.

Like this guy:

BrianD3 · 07-06-2011 10:11am

In my opinion we're going to hear more and more about transplants for male pattern baldness in coming years. Transplantation techniques have improved and the procedures will likely get cheaper. The stigma around transplants is gradually reducing - I think the internet is a factor in this. In a few years I could see the general public having a similar attitude to and awareness of hair transplants as they have to cosmetic dental work i.e. not much stigma at all.

Fromthetrees · 22-07-2011 7:32pm

This is my two cents, http://spexhair.com/ is the best place to start researching about hair loss, great free, honest and knowledgeable advice. I've been on saw palmetto and rogaine for about a year and I think it has slowed my recession but has not actually stopped it. I went to my doctor recently and asked him to prescribe me propecia, he siad no, thought about buying online but was too scared:(, then found out that many hair clinics can prescribe propecia after a consultation, the place I rang said it would be 35euro to go and I was told that the pills cost about 50 per month, all above board, haven't been yet but seriously think I probably will soon. I also find laser combs to work for me, it's not a cure but can help stop further loss by stimulating blood flow of your scalp, it's also fda approved to treat hair loss and no side effects, youtube: The Doctors HairMax LaserComb Review.

enter_name · 22-11-2011 6:42pm

Fromthetrees wrote: »

This is my two cents, http://spexhair.com/ is the best place to start researching about hair loss, great free, honest and knowledgeable advice. I've been on saw palmetto and rogaine for about a year and I think it has slowed my recession but has not actually stopped it. I went to my doctor recently and asked him to prescribe me propecia, he siad no, thought about buying online but was too scared:(, then found out that many hair clinics can prescribe propecia after a consultation, the place I rang said it would be 35euro to go and I was told that the pills cost about 50 per month, all above board, haven't been yet but seriously think I probably will soon. I also find laser combs to work for me, it's not a cure but can help stop further loss by stimulating blood flow of your scalp, it's also fda approved to treat hair loss and no side effects, youtube: The Doctors HairMax LaserComb Review.

Get the Propecia...it actually upsets me that your doctor refused to prescribe it, but maybe you had some medical issue that prevented you from taking it. If that's not the case then the sooner you start taking it the better since it halts hair loss in most cases (i.e. over 80%) but only regrows hair in some cases.

Doc Ruby · 22-11-2011 10:16pm

On the subject of the preventative, I had a touch of alopecia on the beard line a while back and the Trichologist in Galway helped clear it up with some UV treatments. She does all sorts of hair related problems though so well worth a consultation if you're in the neighbourhood.

Stompbox · 03-01-2012 4:57pm

alex73 wrote: »

Seriously... Shave your head, Don't go down the road of implants, treatments, wigs, you will waste a **** load of money to prevent a natural change.

I don't see why people use the argument 'oh, well hair loss is only natural' and a means to justify urging others to simply 'get over it and move on'. There are a lot of afflictions out there that are direct by-products of natural causes yet the general consensus is that we should use products to either reverse or retard their onset. Should you argue that a man doesn't seek treatment for his halitosis or his smegma simply because it's a natural process?

I like my hair. I like how it feels on my head, I like that it keeps me warm and I like the look of it. It makes me feel more secure about my appearance and IMHO, it does make a difference. Eventually, I'd prefer if I didn't give a toss whether I have hair or not but considering that I'm still pretty young it's probably only a natural response. So why do some posters feel the need to deter those who have expressed concern over their failing hairlines? By all means, proffer options and alternatives, but I can't stand those who issue directives as though their suggestion is the definitive one.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 04-01-2012 10:25pm

Sweet wrote: »

I don't see why people use the argument 'oh, well hair loss is only natural' and a means to justify urging others to simply 'get over it and move on'. There are a lot of afflictions out there that are direct by-products of natural causes yet the general consensus is that we should use products to either reverse or retard their onset. Should you argue that a man doesn't seek treatment for his halitosis or his smegma simply because it's a natural process?

I like my hair. I like how it feels on my head, I like that it keeps me warm and I like the look of it. It makes me feel more secure about my appearance and IMHO, it does make a difference. Eventually, I'd prefer if I didn't give a toss whether I have hair or not but considering that I'm still pretty young it's probably only a natural response. So why do some posters feel the need to deter those who have expressed concern over their failing hairlines? By all means, proffer options and alternatives, but I can't stand those who issue directives as though their suggestion is the definitive one.

Halitosis and smegma would be repugnant to most people but why should that be the case for hair-loss at all? I think your comparison there was invalid. Hair-loss doesn't have to be a problem if the person involved doesn't want it to be. I can see why some people would want to seek treatment, hair-loss at a young age can shake someone's confidence, and there is nothing wrong with wanting to look your best. However, suggesting that someone eschews treatment or medicine that can be very expensive and/or next to useless is reasonable IMO. It is more important to have confidence and self-esteem than it is a full head of hair.

Speaking from experience here.

DublinWriter · 05-01-2012 10:16pm

As the late great Linda Smith said, all women basically look for in a guy is a nice smile and a clean shirt.

The problem with hair replacement surgery is that if you do it young, like Rooney, your own hair will continue to grey and diminish around the transplant areas.

MartyMcDoodle · 14-01-2012 8:36am

Hair Restoration Clinic in Blackrock is the only one in Ireland that has qualified Surgeons practicing Hair Transplant Surgery. Watch the video's of when they were on the Late Late Show it's very interesting..

http://www.hairtransplantsurgery.ie/

Tiocfaidh Armani · 09-05-2012 5:50pm

BrianD3 wrote: »

In my opinion we're going to hear more and more about transplants for male pattern baldness in coming years. Transplantation techniques have improved and the procedures will likely get cheaper. The stigma around transplants is gradually reducing - I think the internet is a factor in this. In a few years I could see the general public having a similar attitude to and awareness of hair transplants as they have to cosmetic dental work i.e. not much stigma at all.

I agree, don't see a problem with it. Where would be the best country to get one?

Crann na Beatha · 06-06-2012 9:28pm

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The_Kew_Tour · 06-06-2012 11:36pm

I wonder is there any chance that product will cure baldness in or lifetime with simply tablet or whatever?

stateofflux · 07-06-2012 12:11am

alex73 wrote: »

Seriously... Shave your head, Don't go down the road of implants, treatments, wigs, you will waste a **** load of money to prevent a natural change.

I used regaine for about 8 years.. They say it works on 80% of men, strange how all the men I know who used it are among the other 20% :-). The treatment is really expensive and a total waste of money for me.

Anyway I am Bald now at 38 and it does not bother me.

+1 , more important to losing ones hair is losing ones self confidence... but still have a free consultation with a transplant clinic and see what the doc says...but go to a proper place like the one in blackrock that won't bull**** you....

guitarzero · 07-06-2012 12:22am

From the before and after pics I've seen on these transplanters, its not worth it. You still end up growing a crop that of an oul lad. Unless its thick and fairly much a reflection of the back and sides then I wouldnt bother.

Fromthetrees · 07-06-2012 12:38am

Aquila wrote: »

Where can you get Saw palmetto in Ireland>?

I'm fairly sure you can get it anywhere that sells vitamins and 'stuff' like that. I got it in a shop called 'Here's Health', it's actually sold to benefit something else that I forget now so don't see why it isn't widely available. I got it in the first place I tried.

Just to say, if you want to get Propecia/Finasteride (think it's the only proven tablet you can take), basically every hair clinic/hair type place can 'prescribe' it for you.
Just to say, I went to my GP to talk about it and he said there is no way he would prescribe it to me, seems fair enough in a way because it's not an 'illness'.
I did a quick google of hair places a few months ago, rang around and found that the first 4 places I tried that you can get it no problem where I live (not Dublin), I'm pretty freaked out about the side effects of the tablet so haven't went for it though.

Anyway, I'm just saying this because I figured if my GP wouldn't prescribe it and I wouldn't trust ordering 'a drug' online that I had no way of getting Propecia/Finasteride, but that's simply not the case, perfectly legal an all as well.

Crann na Beatha · 07-06-2012 11:23am

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ongarboy · 07-06-2012 5:09pm

BrianD3 wrote: »

The stigma around transplants is gradually reducing - I think the internet is a factor in this. In a few years I could see the general public having a similar attitude to and awareness of hair transplants as they have to cosmetic dental work i.e. not much stigma at all.

I'd prefer if there was less of a stigma to baldness in general...which seems to prompt those who suffer from that stigma to pay 1000s on restoration.

But, I guess if restoration is what makes one happy, they should go for it and be proud that they got work done. I wouldn't view anyone that got restoration work done as being something to ridicule. but then again neither would I view someone's baldness as something to ridicule or look down upon.

The_Kew_Tour · 07-06-2012 6:17pm

Not fully bald yet, but getting there.

But never had any smart remarks thrown my way about it. Not yet anyway.

If someone did I would think they feel as insecure about themselves as we baldy people are.

the_syco · 12-06-2012 9:14am

alex73 wrote: »

I used regaine for about 8 years.. They say it works on 80% of men, strange how all the men I know who used it are among the other 20% :-). The treatment is really expensive and a total waste of money for me.

Most men use it when their hair has already receded, yet I think it works best whilst you still have hair on your head.

Dontfadeaway · 13-06-2012 2:45pm

Those of you who are thinning. Does your head itch, feel like your hair is being pulled, sometimes scalp numb? I have all that and it's driving me mad. If it's not one of them it's the other.

pearcider · 13-06-2012 4:14pm

^Yes that's very common aka "the mpb itch". At the very least you should be using Nizoral twice a week. It will relieve the itch, thicken the hair cosmetically and has mild anti androgen properties. There was a clinical study that showed it increases hair thickness by 10% or so. It will keep your scalp clean and healthy so you should probably use it anyway if you notice thinning. Smells nice too - in a medicated kind of way!

Minoxidil is super effective with millions of regular users but you must be religious in applying it - it only stimulates growth (for some people, crazy amounts of growth) and will not prevent further loss - for that you need a DHT inhibitor. You also have to continue using it forever. The generic version are cheap though (100 euro per year - buy online)

The real heavy hitter is finasteride which will inhibit about 60% of the free DHT that kills the follicles. The main version of this drug is called propecia (1mg a day) - this will stop your hair loss and thicken your hair but it will not regrow any hence it can be considered a preventative measure. It is expensive though (€100 a month) but you can get generic versions. Talk to your GP for a prescription. Despite what one reads on the web re side effects, it has an excellent 20 year safety profile and will work on 90% of men. I don't want to get any hopes up because it doesn't work for everybody but for the majority of people the results are insanely good. See this link here:

http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/medical-treatment/patient-photos/#medications-photos-continued

As my doc said, it's the first and best line of defense.

You have to get on these treatments as soon as you notice thinning for the best chance though. Once the follicle is dead, it's game over man!

Dontfadeaway · 13-06-2012 5:40pm

I have nizoral, so will start using it again. I'm too paranoid to take the other 2, heard too much about them.

john.west · 13-06-2012 7:01pm

Can anybody tell me if Proscar the cheaper alternative to Finasteride can be perscribed by a GP in Ireland for Male Pattern Baldness?

LegacyUser · 18-06-2012 5:48pm

I'm a guy in my mid/late 20s and the genes are kicking in and I'm getting bald patches at the temples. I'm happy enough to just shave it off rather than trying other cures when it's at that stage. But here's my question, what is the point at which there is enough hair loss that you should just shave it off (if that's the route you want to go) without holding on too long or shaving it off too prematurely either?
Secondly has anybody got any good tips/hint for shaving your head yourself, more so with electric clippers than a wet shave?

j4vier · 25-10-2012 10:57am

does anyone know anything about the universal hair and scalp clinic? i have a consultation booked and just wondering if anyone went already to see them

walshb · 25-10-2012 2:02pm

crazyderk wrote: »

I wanted to get the guys opinion on this

I'm 28 and I shower, shampoo and shave everyday, well sometimes I'll skip it on a sunday!

main reasons are

1. I feel a lot better and fresher throughout the day and other obvious reasons

2.it makes it easier to shave

3.I would then also use gel in my hair everyday and need to wash it out in order to get the control I need for my messed up spikes!

I remember hearing some tale of if you shower/shampoo and mess with your hair everyday this will ultimitaly cause baldness due to washing away the natural oils on your head or something

is there any truth to this? and if there is,
Is prevention better than cure! Am i better being smelly and hairy or clean and bald?

Wow. I am in my 30s and I have a very thick and full head of hair. I was never one to wash my hair regularly. I shower at least once a day, and I would say I am a very clean person. But, I do think that too many people wash their hair too much. I shower and rinse thoroughly my hair, but only apply shampoos very sparingly. Maybe 2-3 times a month. My hair does not smell because of this. I think years of constant shampoos and gels etc probably damages the scalp and its surrounding hair.

quiz · 11-11-2012 8:28am

Anyone here get hair transplant surgery?

How did it go for you?

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