Baldness treatments/cures/queries in here

BuyingorSelling

Has anyone gone to one, if so where, for what treatment and did you find it good

Thinking of trying the one in george's street to maybe get some wonder shampoo to stop the auld balding process

st_andalou

Hmm, I'm not sure about clinics.

There are only two things on the market proven to stop hair loss. They are rogaine (which is available from the pharmacy) or Propecia (which is only available on prescription).

If you want a shampoo, Nizoral is believed by some to be beneficial to those suffering from hair loss even though it is originally prescribed as anti-dandruff shampoo. It's available from a pharmacy and I don't think you need a prescription for it.

matthewmcmetal

I have been using Bioxsine shampoo and found its made my existing hair a lot healthier and strengthened the weak strands at the front that were thinning. I have not used the vial of it yet but I think I will

kaiboy

BuyingorSelling wrote: »

Has anyone gone to one, if so where, for what treatment and did you find it good

Thinking of trying the one in george's street to maybe get some wonder shampoo to stop the auld balding process

Dont bother with that place for shampoos or treatments, didnt find it helped at all! It is a good place to get medication though.Provides 3 months supply of finasteride (propecia) for 100 euro which is the cheapest I know of! Rogaine and nizoral shampoo can be purchased in the chemist. This is the supposed best combiation to stop further hair loss and strengthen and thicken thinning hair and what I use myself personally.

Ailesbury hair clinic has a new non invasive technique for replacing hair whic I have researched and is defo something I shall be looking into in the future if my situation worsens. Actually have an appt there in a couple of weeks to find out more but I already know they recommend the above medications in the early stages of hair loss.

BumbleB

Tried all that rubbish ,every medicine you put in your body has side effects some of which may not showup for years .Shaved mine off best thing I've ever done .

Handsome Bob

I won't tell anyone what to do, it's all about what makes you confident and I know the shaved head doesn't suit me. Personally, it does suit me so I don't see the merit on spending vast amount of money on something I don't really need.

donalmm

I have been using that bioxsine stuff for around 6 months now and Ill have to say it has made a difference to my hair. I have been on the serum and shampoo, it took a good while to start working but it has defo helped my

coolperson05

Could I ask if these products ie. Nizoral or Rogaine are suitable for people with thining hair at the back say, but the main problem is generally thin overall hair?! I'm only in my 20's so i'm hoping its more for thicking to style it then for balding

speedboatchase

coolperson05 wrote: »

Could I ask if these products ie. Nizoral or Rogaine are suitable for people with thining hair at the back say, but the main problem is generally thin overall hair?! I'm only in my 20's so i'm hoping its more for thicking to style it then for balding

If your hair is thin all over, rather than balding, you should invest in a thickening shampoo

Grid.

Seen this on TV3 last week and found it interesting.Worth watching for anyone considering HT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl3iZWsOaX0

mike65

My first ever thread on TGC!

The Irish Times runs a story about an accidental breakthrough in hair loss recovery here. Naturally even if all is shown to be well it'll be years before any development hits the streets. But if it were possible to go in to a "facility" and have a gene tweaked from X to Y to remove that cue-ball look at an affordable price would you?

MrStuffins

If it's not called "Demoxinil" i'm not using it!

tbh

mike65 wrote: »

My first ever thread on TGC!

The Irish Times runs a story about an accidental breakthrough in hair loss recovery here. Naturally even if all is shown to be well it'll be years before any development hits the streets. But if it were possible to go in to a "facility" and have a gene tweaked from X to Y to remove that cue-ball look at an affordable price would you?

of course! if there was no down side, why wouldn't you? but if they said there was even 1% chance of long lasting side effects, then no

krudler

Depends, if it was safe then yeah, what guy wouldnt tbh. I wouldnt mind if I go grey, but bald I dont want to, dont have the head for it lol

crazyderk

I wanted to get the guys opinion on this

I'm 28 and I shower, shampoo and shave everyday, well sometimes I'll skip it on a sunday!

main reasons are

1. I feel a lot better and fresher throughout the day and other obvious reasons

2.it makes it easier to shave

3.I would then also use gel in my hair everyday and need to wash it out in order to get the control I need for my messed up spikes!

I remember hearing some tale of if you shower/shampoo and mess with your hair everyday this will ultimitaly cause baldness due to washing away the natural oils on your head or something

is there any truth to this? and if there is,
Is prevention better than cure! Am i better being smelly and hairy or clean and bald?

Red Hand

I shower maybe twice a day, but use very little soap/shampoo. Your skin is naturally acidic and soaps are often alkaline, so it doesn't make sense to be stripping the body of it's friendly bacteria. I don't use shampoo every day, maybe every 3rd day, usually I rinse my hair clean.

krudler

I've recently stopped washing my hair every day, I used to, sometimes I shower twice, depends on how badly I want those extra few mins in bed before work in the morning lol. Now I wash my hair every 2 days, I have hair thats a pain in the arse to get it to do what I want with gel or wax in it unless its freshly washed, so thats annoying, but its no harm to go a day or 2 without washing it tbh. I use an electric clippers rather than wet shave, havent been clean shaven in about 2 years just keep my stubble short. I do shave my neck and around my chinline alright and for that I use shaving foam

Nah, bald is sexy. Not just saying that because I'm receding :eek:

Dravokivich

Wouldn't use it myself.

Wibbs

tbh wrote: »

of course! if there was no down side, why wouldn't you?

That would be my take. If you like the shaved look, then you can shave it, if you like the long haired look, then you can grow it. You would have the choice that being bald takes away. As for risks? Well anything can have risks, but in this case, I cant see what risks there would be unless the stem cells had more chances of becoming cancerous maybe?

foxyboxer

I've been bald so long, I think I would look strange with hair at this stage. :cool:

BATEMAN2010

Has anyone here been prescribed Propecia Hair Loss pills by a GP in Dublin?
If so where?

Am trying to get the pills from a regular GP and not a specialist hair loss clinic as they charge a fortune for a consultation.

entropi

I shower every day, two days it'll be twice a day due to training schedule, but I only wash my hair every 3 days, this gives it time to restore sebum in the follicle and help regenerate the hair shaft, as hinted at above. I dont use anything like gel either, I find that it damages my hair if I use it often enough.

As for shaving, well you can shave every day if you like but it will be harsh on your skin so unless your job or a skin condition calls for it, there's no real need to. And to add: I use an anti-bacterial shaving gel (King of Shaves) and it works very well.

Each to their own I suppose, but washing your hair every day is gonna do damage to it so let it slide to two or even three days and it'll help imho:)

SandStone

It isn't licensed for hair loss treatment in Ireland, so you can't legally get it.

Snowie

Shower every morning...Start of with the shower bring really warm and wsh my self then cool of the shower to close of my skin again.... And cold water allway wakes you up followed bye a warm cup of columbian coffee

shave well the last time I shaved was well I cant remember I just trim my hair with my beard clippers

mickman

Master of Nothing wrote: »

I shower every day, two days it'll be twice a day due to training schedule, but I only wash my hair every 3 days, this gives it time to restore sebum in the follicle and help regenerate the hair shaft, as hinted at above. I dont use anything like gel either, I find that it damages my hair if I use it often enough.

As for shaving, well you can shave every day if you like but it will be harsh on your skin so unless your job or a skin condition calls for it, there's no real need to. And to add: I use an anti-bacterial shaving gel (King of Shaves) and it works very well.

Each to their own I suppose, but washing your hair every day is gonna do damage to it so let it slide to two or even three days and it'll help imho:)

i wash my hair every second day and use brylcream every day for years and years , its either that or go around looking stupid with a big dry head !

its the old brylcream stuff, the cream rather than the gel and i have a fine thick head of hair. if you have the tendancy to go bald then its going to happen whatever you do

Sid_Justice

what do people mean by "shampooing your hair every day will damage it" like my hair is kept short so ultimately any damaged hair gets cut anyway. Do you mean damage to the follicle?

Otis Driftwood

I shampoo my hair every day and it is ridiculously thick.If you are going to go bald you are going to go bald IMO.

piby

I'd like to say that I'm not that superficial but I probably would if it went on the market.

I think ethically I would use something like this that arose as a unintended consequence of other research but for the most part I think it disgraceful that there's any money at all directly spent on 'curing' a natural phenomena that happens to 50% of men when there's people going hungry or dying of curable diseases in the world.

Wibbs

There's far more money that goes into makeup, hair products for both sexes, fashion for both and many many other trivial things. Theres probably more money spent on razor blade development. Who ever thought humans were good at prioritising?

As for it being a natural thing? So is aging and if we could find a cure for that. Most diseases arise out of natural processes and through no fault of the individual. We can already feed the world.Little research required. Yet we dont. Its an interesting if thorny moral dilemma alright.

mike65

There is a fair chance that whoever perfects the science will be killed by Loreal

entropi

I fully agree that you cannot deny genetics, all I was pointing out is that drying out your hair of its natural oils will be bad for your scalp and hair, which could deteriorate its condition

Raedwald

Have a shower everyday sometimes up to three or four showers in a day depending on going out, work, sports etc and the hair would be washed throughly everyday. This would be due to the amount of wax used on the hair and the need to rinse it out completely.

Slowly but surely trying to grow it longer so I dont have to use much in it in future.

speedboatchase

Propecia is the brand name of Finasteride. You can buy a generic tablet called Proscar, which is identical but comes in a pill five times the dosage of Propecia. Buy a pill splitter, order Proscar and you'll be sorted - it's a lot cheaper than Propecia too. Bear in mind though that finasteride doesn't work for everyone and the side effects are rubbish (moobs, loss of erection). I tried it a few months and though only 8% or so experience these side effects, I was becoming one of the 8% so I quit it - any side effects vanish once you get off though. Hopefully you have better luck OP

Handsome Bob

I think we need a mega thread for issues in regards to hair/baldness in this forum. :pac:

moonpurple

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

I shower maybe twice a day, but use very little soap/shampoo. Your skin is naturally acidic and soaps are often alkaline, so it doesn't make sense to be stripping the body of it's friendly bacteria. I don't use shampoo every day, maybe every 3rd day, usually I rinse my hair clean.

I use the luas the same time as you do....

Handsome Bob

I think it would say a lot about one's character if he did take a "cure" to be brutally honest. There's nothing wrong with being bald, I am fine with it, and I wouldn't take back the "option" of having hair just to please a few people.

This goes beyond issues of weight, teeth or whatever. These are issues that you can control and indeed, it would probably be best for your health if you do control these issues.

But when it comes to baldness, or height, this is something you cannot control. It is what it is. I have no problem with people having personal tastes where they're not interested in short and/or bald men, but I'm not going to feel bad or inferior over something that is beyond my control.

So yeah, I would say thanks but no thanks to a "baldness cure".

BrianD3

As someone in his early thirties with a Norwood 3 hairline (significant temporal recession) yes I would be interested in something that would restore the lost hair. I'll believe it when I see it though. Over the years I must have read hundreds of optimistic media articles about potential "cures" for various conditions. Most never come to anything.

Also, the treatment that the article refers to seems to involve surgery, grafts and transplantation etc. In that case it would probably be very expensive and could result in complications and scarring. Hair transplants are already available and have these disadvantages.

On a general note, anyone who thinks that women don't notice or care about baldness in men is deluded IMO. Some balding men with well shaped head can look very well if they shave it all off but i would say this look doesn't suit the majority of men. I've had a few women comment on and sneer at my receeding hairline and laugh about how I'd be bald before i'm 30 (they were wrong) Have also heard lots of women laughing about other men's baldness, men being described as "short fat and balding" etc.

Handsome Bob

BrianD3 wrote: »

On a general note, anyone who thinks that women don't notice or care about baldness in men is deluded IMO. Some balding men with well shaped head can look very well if they shave it all off but i would say this look doesn't suit the majority of men. I've had a few women comment on and sneer at my receeding hairline and laugh about how I'd be bald before i'm 30 (they were wrong) Have also heard lots of women laughing about other men's baldness, men being described as "short fat and balding" etc.

I think you need to surround yourself with better women to be honest. I've never had any of that, and I would quickly blank anyone who behaved like that.

Rubik.

It depends how old I am when I start going bald. I'm sure there will be an age where I'm beyond caring. And if it is going to cost a fortune or its something you have to slap on every day to stop the hair falling out again, forget about it.

Pyr0

If there were no side affects then yeah I'd give it a shot ! Going thin since I was 18, wouldn't mind having the old mop back but I have finally gotten used to it at this stage.

I agree with LZ5. They're the type of women you want to avoid, I'd glady tell a women where to go if she laughed at me or anyone else over going bald.

the_syco

foxyboxer wrote: »

I've been bald so long, I think I would look strange with hair at this stage. :cool:

Likewise. Though I wouldn't say no to getting a mullet if it meant popping a pill or something. If it involved surgery, then no. Too much hassle.

the_syco

I shower once a day, in the morning (unless I goto the gym, as I shower afterwards). Shave the head using a Mch 3 about twice a week.

If you're loosing hair, ask yourself: is it worth trying to hide going bald, or do you think a Mach 3 would be a better option?

Otis Driftwood

Hi all.There has been a large number of threads in the last while asking questions about baldness,the various treatments,transplants and what not.Obviously this is an issue for alot of men so in an effort to reduce the clutter the mods have decided to make one baldness related superthread,kinda like the circumcision advice thread so any future queries relating to anything related to baldness should be posted in here.


If the thread gets alot of traffic I will sticky it but for now will leave it unstickied.

Otis Driftwood

Ive also merged the three threads that were on the first page of the forum.

tbh

some info from our tame pharmacist:

locum-motion wrote: »

First, a little background: Finasteride is the name of the drug you're talking about. There are two main products in which it is found; Proscar and Propecia. Proscar contains 5mg of finasteride, and it is used for prostate disorders such as Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia. It is a licenced medicinal product in Ireland. Propecia contains 1mg of finasteride, and is used, somewhat controversially, to prevent and/or reverse hairloss. It is not a licenced medicinal product in Ireland. That being said, a doctor may legally write a prescription for whatever s/he likes*, so an Irish doc might give you a script for Finasteride 1mg. If such a prescription were presented to me (I'm a pharmacist) I would attempt to source Propecia from one of the suppliers who we usually use for that sort of thing, and if I was able to do so, all's well and good. However, I'm fairly sure they wouldn't have it. I would not supply 5mg tablets and have the patient try to split them into 5 parts, nor would I attempt to make the split myself. It is impossible to split a tablet into 5 parts accurately and reproducibly. The next best thing would be for the pharmacist to compound a liquid formulation from the tablets, so that the correct dosage can be measured. After all, that's one of the things we're trained to do and pharmacists in 'the olden days' used to do that with everything! Do not attempt to do this yourself. It is somewhat more complicated than just dissolving the tablets in water!

Now, some rules for this thread: There is no other method other than through your doctor and pharmacist by which it is legal to obtain finasteride in Ireland. It is illegal to procure (or to attempt to procure) medicinal products via the internet or mail order. It is illegal to allow your premises to be used to procure same. Boards.ie cannot be used to facilitate illegal activity. Therefore, any user who even hints at anything to do with buying finasteride online will be banned, and the thread will be locked. You have been warned.

I'm willing to leave the thread open for the time being. By all means, feel free to share you personal experiences of how you got on with your legally obtained finasteride. However, the rule about advice being forbidden still stands. So, no asking for or offering advice on what to do in any given situation. Talk to your doctor.

We want you to be able to share experiences or to benefit from others' experiences, but please remember that people are different, what works for one might not work for another. If the rules I've outlined above aren't adhered to, the thread will be closed, so please be careful that you don't ruin it for others.

Thanks.

* I was asked in a PM if I would try to source Marijuana if a Dr. prescribed it, so let me clarify what I meant when I said a Dr can prescribe whatever they like. I was referring to medicinal products; a Dr can prescribe a medicinal product that is unlicenced here but is licenced in other countries. The answer to the Q in the PM is No; Marijuana is a Schdule 1 Controlled Drug under the Misuse of Drugs Acts, and so therefore doesn't fall into the category I was talking about!

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

As far as I know, propecia isn't even approved here in Ireland. Though it's approved in US and UK, just Irish regulators havn't got around to it. I bought if off the internet but was really expensive so I then bought generic propecia, finpecia which worked out around 40c a tab. So a years supply around 150 euro which is grand. Btw, I'm an Internet marketer so know a lot of the tricks but it took me ages to find a real supplier. Lot of fake **** out there.

It def worked for me BUT after a few months I noticed my libido was non-existant so I had to give them up. I've 2 other friends on it and they get no side-effects so lucky for them.

thebourke

Hi, i have recently started to notice my hair is thinning at the top.
I have seen this product in many health shops and on the tv.
Has anybody use it here?

Sound Bite

Hi, Female here and not sure if I should post this here but its always been a curiousity to me & alot of women I know but why do so many men get bothered and sensitive about going grey or hair loss? Is it aging, vanity or something else?

Bald can be very attractive, as can that whole silver fox look. There is nothing worst than a badly dyed head of hair or an attempt at some sort of comb over.

Believe me, my intention is not to offend but if mods want to delete or tell me to get out, I understand.

Otis Driftwood

Hi Soundbite,this is a thread about mens experience with baldness,various treatments etc,not a thread to question why men care about going bald/grey or whatever.Every man is different so its a pretty obtuse question to begin with and besides,its not what this thread is for.Cheers,Ned.

quiz

I'm considering hair transplant.

I would be looking for recommendations for clinics in Dublin.

I was wondering if they transplant the hair to the current bald patches and the balding process continues on the hair I currently have will the transplanted areas have hair while the untransplanted area continues the balding process and look awful in 5 years?