The smiths

denlaw · 31-05-2011 08:58PM #1

Anybody a fan , I am .
Perhaps Ireland greatest ever band , we claim the english born footballers , why not the smiths , all irish decent , morrissey maher joyce and rourke ....
Irelands greatest band ...:D;)

Danco · 31-05-2011 10:39PM

Can't be I'm afraid. Therapy? are Ireland's greatest ever band.

Sl!mCharles · 31-05-2011 10:53PM

Love them but they are English fellers

npresto · 31-05-2011 11:06PM

The Smiths were fantastic.
Up there with the very best bands ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1MsuoNJQ3U

denlaw · 01-06-2011 10:00AM

Sl!mCharles wrote: »

Love them but they are English fellers

Irish , brought up with Irish values by Irish parents ..
Great band though

Nolanger · 01-06-2011 06:23PM

Saw them play live as a kid.

johnnykilo · 01-06-2011 07:58PM

One of the best bands ever. I think they did claim they were Irish when they first came out (much like Oasis) and then retracted it later when they became successful. IIRC Johnny Marr lived in Kildare until he was 11.

seachto7 · 01-06-2011 10:49PM

They are English (of Irish extraction), but are not an Irish band. Get over it. Therapy are Northern Irish too to be exact.

Nuno Bettencourt, who was the guitarist with Extreme, wasn't considered a Portuguese guitarist. Nope. He is American, from Boston.

Enough of the Paddywhackery. It's almost as bad as the Obama/Moneygall boll*x.....:mad:

denlaw · 02-06-2011 09:47AM

johnnykilo wrote: »

One of the best bands ever. I think they did claim they were Irish when they first came out (much like Oasis) and then retracted it later when they became successful. IIRC Johnny Marr lived in Kildare until he was 11.

Not true , his family are from a townsland around Athy but he never lived in Ireland ..

denlaw · 02-06-2011 09:49AM

seachto7 wrote: »

They are English (of Irish extraction), but are not an Irish band. Get over it. Therapy are Northern Irish too to be exact.

Nuno Bettencourt, who was the guitarist with Extreme, wasn't considered a Portuguese guitarist. Nope. He is American, from Boston.

Enough of the Paddywhackery. It's almost as bad as the Obama/Moneygall boll*x.....:mad:

You support the Irish football team ..?

seachto7 · 02-06-2011 10:02AM

If it were the case the UK press would have always referred to them as Irish, same as N Gallagher, who just loved that union jack guitar..........

Is Wayne Rooney not Irish then by the same rational? Anyways, besides the point. Morrissey is a pain in the hole but has some fantastic songs.....Jonny Marr is a great guitarist

JerryHandbag · 02-06-2011 10:28AM

Sure if they were Irish they wouldnt have called themselves The Smiths, it would've been The Murphys/Kellys/Ryans

smokedeels · 02-06-2011 01:07PM

Lyrically, their music is too centred on commentaries around English culture to be considered anything but English.

Musically, they seemed to ignore anything but white music, dry as a bone, another English trait.

Sorry "we" can't claim them.

ned rierson · 02-06-2011 03:34PM

dunno if johnny marr lived in kildare but he def has relations living there. plus my best friends father is morrisseys cousin and we got to see them a few times in dublin in the sfx and stadium way back when.

Dudess · 02-06-2011 03:39PM

An English band. Its members were of Irish extraction, but were first and foremost English.

problemchimp · 02-06-2011 03:51PM

The Smiths were a fantastic band but let's not embarass ourselves by claiming they were Irish. Anyway, who gives a flying fuuck where they are from?

vicwatson · 02-06-2011 04:08PM

all irish decent , morrissey maher joyce and rourke ....

It's Johnny Marr:)

Super band !

JerryHandbag · 02-06-2011 05:09PM

vicwatson wrote: »

It's Johnny Marr:)

Super band !

He was born Johnny Maher, but changed it to Marr.

smokedeels · 02-06-2011 05:13PM

JerryHandbag wrote: »

He was born Johnny Maher, but changed it to Marr.

Trying to hide his heritage, like some kind of self-hating Paddy.

Dudess · 02-06-2011 05:35PM

Actually to avoid confusion with The Buzzcocks' drummer John Maher.

Nolanger · 02-06-2011 05:42PM

problemchimp wrote: »

The Smiths were a fantastic band but let's not embarass ourselves by claiming they were Irish.

Much better than the Irish bands that were around in 1983/84.

smokedeels · 02-06-2011 06:00PM

Nolanger wrote: »

Much better than the Irish bands that were around in 1983/84.

As were The Fall but we don't try to claim Mark E. Smith.

denlaw · 02-06-2011 07:13PM

smokedeels wrote: »

As were The Fall but we don't try to claim Mark E. Smith.

why , was he irish ...decent ...
the fall were **** , mark smith is a dick ..

Miguel_Sanchez · 02-06-2011 07:17PM

This thread is possibly the best we've ever had in Alt/Indie.

Carry on.

denlaw · 02-06-2011 07:50PM

Jeff_Lebowski wrote: »

This thread is possibly the best we've ever had in Alt/Indie.

Carry on.

you serious , i know i'm new to boards but not to forums .

jeff you wum ..

Dudess · 02-06-2011 07:55PM

I predict this will turn into a "Such and such band is my personal favourite/least favourite band therefore they're the best/worst band ever" thread... :pac:

smokedeels · 02-06-2011 07:57PM

I'd like to respond to this

denlaw wrote: »

why , was he irish ...decent ...
the fall were **** , mark smith is a dick ..

with this

Dudess wrote: »

Such and such band is my personal favourite band therefore they're the best band ever

*Runs away from thread, leaving a trail trail of gasoline and flicking a match*

Miguel_Sanchez · 02-06-2011 08:04PM

Irish Blood, English Heart?

denlaw · 02-06-2011 08:13PM

Jeff_Lebowski wrote: »

Irish Blood, English Heart?

me , yes ..

denlaw · 02-06-2011 08:16PM

smokedeels wrote: »

I'd like to respond to this

with this

*Runs away from thread, leaving a trail trail of gasoline and flicking a match*

i'm too old to worry about this band that band .

Henno30 · 02-06-2011 09:16PM

I suppose there's no chance of them ever playing live again. I'm sure the other 3 would do it but Morrissey would never agree to it. I like Morrissey's stuff and have seen him live a few times but my god he's an insufferable whinge now. I suppose if that level of self-pity produces those songs then it's worth tolerating.

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