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Garda with criminal record

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  • #62
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Resend wrote: »
    and sent home the same day

    If you bothered to read the info you would see that the average time served was between 7- 15 days in jail....for not having a TV licence. In 2007 the average time in jail for not having a dog licence was 35 days. That's over a month in prison for no dog licence! :eek:

    How much time in jail will Foley serve for an assault which led to life threatening injuries? A: 0.


  • #63
    Resend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Resend


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    If you bothered to read the info you would see that the average time served was between 7- 15 days in jail....for not having a TV licence. In 2007 the average time in jail for not having a dog licence was 35 days. That's over a month in prison for no dog licence! :eek:
    fair enough anyone i heard of only spent a few hours there. But i think people who do not have dog licences should get a few months esp when the let their dogs muck someone garden
    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    How much time in jail will Foley serve for an assault which led to life threatening injuries? A: 0.
    isn't all of it suspended? some joke


  • #64
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Resend wrote: »
    isn't all of it suspended?


    The info is in response to a question put to Alan Shatter and clearly states 'The average custodial sentence length for each category'- this means time spent in jail as opposed to non-custodial or suspended.

    So ALL of Foley's sentence was suspended but some poor fecker spent over a month in jail..in a cell...for not having a fecking dog licence!!!


  • #65
    Bosco boy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Bosco boy


    I reckon execution would fall short for some people posting here, the guy did very wrong, a moment of madness, it's cost him his career, he's sold everything he owns to pay compensation and his life is in tatters, he's genuinely remourseful and his victim does not want him jailed. Many offenders meet none of the above and get suspended sentences. Get a grip folks and move on!


  • #66
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    If you bothered to read the info you would see that the average time served was between 7- 15 days in jail....for not having a TV licence. In 2007 the average time in jail for not having a dog licence was 35 days. That's over a month in prison for no dog licence! :eek:

    How much time in jail will Foley serve for an assault which led to life threatening injuries? A: 0.

    Time in jail includes time spent on TR.


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  • #67
    jakdelad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭jakdelad


    Bosco boy wrote: »
    I reckon execution would fall short for some people posting here, the guy did very wrong, a moment of madness, it's cost him his career, he's sold everything he owns to pay compensation and his life is in tatters, he's genuinely remourseful and his victim does not want him jailed. Many offenders meet none of the above and get suspended sentences. Get a grip folks and move on!
    so when a cop goes bezerk and walks away
    everyone else has to move on?? is that how it works
    what about the next guy coming along for serious assault
    does he get the same sort of justice??? or do we just jail him
    even though he might be remorsefull too ...
    so you think a person letting their dog sh1te in a garden is more serious a crime
    than a person beaten to a pulp???#
    i do despair


  • #68
    Resend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Resend


    Bosco boy wrote: »
    I reckon execution would fall short for some people posting here, the guy did very wrong, a moment of madness, it's cost him his career, he's sold everything he owns to pay compensation and his life is in tatters, he's genuinely remourseful and his victim does not want him jailed. Many offenders meet none of the above and get suspended sentences. Get a grip folks and move on!
    are you a garda


  • #69
    Resend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Resend


    jakdelad wrote: »
    so when a cop goes bezerk and walks away
    everyone else has to move on?? is that how it works
    what about the next guy coming along for serious assault
    does he get the same sort of justice??? or do we just jail him
    even though he might be remorsefull too ...
    so you think a person letting their dog sh1te in a garden is more serious a crime
    than a person beaten to a pulp???#
    i do despair
    'remorse' is just a legal tactic like crying in court


  • #70
    Bosco boy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Bosco boy


    jakdelad wrote: »
    so when a cop goes bezerk and walks away
    everyone else has to move on?? is that how it works
    what about the next guy coming along for serious assault
    does he get the same sort of justice??? or do we just jail him
    even though he might be remorsefull too ...
    so you think a person letting their dog sh1te in a garden is more serious a crime
    than a person beaten to a pulp???#
    i do despair

    despair away!


  • #71
    Bosco boy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Bosco boy


    Resend wrote: »
    are you a garda

    Ya, sorry can I not post here?


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  • #72
    Resend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Resend


    Bosco boy wrote: »
    Ya, sorry can I not post here?
    who said you cannot? You are biased though


  • #73
    Resend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Resend


    Bosco boy wrote: »
    despair away!
    that is a cop out


  • #74
    Bosco boy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Bosco boy


    Resend wrote: »
    who said you cannot? You are biased though

    In other words I shoundnt post here so! What do you work at?


  • #75
    Roman Emperor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 ✭Roman Emperor


    Resend wrote: »
    that is a cop out
    I think the cop made a mistake


  • #76
    Bosco boy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Bosco boy


    Roman Emperor wrote: »
    I think the cop made a mistake

    Congrats on your virgin post!


  • #77
    Roman Emperor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 ✭Roman Emperor


    Bosco boy wrote: »
    Congrats on your virgin post!

    Thank you very much. I appreciate that.


  • #78
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Resend wrote: »
    'remorse' is just a legal tactic like crying in court
    Definition of remorse: onion in ones pocket...

    From: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0527/1224297853162.html
    Mr Murphy suffered a broken nose, fractures to his cheekbones, broken teeth and bleeding to the brain in the late-night assault which happened after words were exchanged over the clothes worn by somebody in Foley’s group.
    This happened after
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/garda-weeps-as-he-is-jailed-for-beating-man-unconscious-2659529.html
    The attack was triggered when Mr Murphy drunkenly joked that a t-shirt worn by one of Foley's friends was "a bit gay".
    Which was a response after they remarked about Mr Murphys clothing and laughed.


    So to summarise, Mr Murphy "drunkenly joked that a t-shirt worn by one of Foley's friends was "a bit gay" and Mr Foley then attacked Mr Murphy and left Mr Murphy unconscious. For this Mr Foley gets no jail time because he's a guard.

    Would commiting murder get a Garda jailed? Or would they be let go?


  • #79
    Resend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Resend


    Bosco boy wrote: »
    In other words I shoundnt post here so! ?
    who said that? should i not have an opinion in case it upsets you. My opinion is the cop is a thug


  • #80
    Bosco boy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Bosco boy


    Resend wrote: »
    who said that? should i not have an opinion in case it upsets you. My opinion is the cop is a thug

    You didn't answer my question, what do you work at?


  • #81
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Resend wrote: »
    who said that? should i not have an opinion in case it upsets you. My opinion is the cop is a thug

    Yes, He is a thug, I wouldn't criticize the man if it was only a slap but what he did was scandalous, It was excessive and anyone else would get roughly 3 years for that assault.


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  • #82
    cordub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭cordub


    Bosco boy wrote: »
    You didn't answer my question, what do you
    Its bosco who is the garda clearly but im sure he doesnt condon the actions of the off duty guard there is noone with any decency or sense that would!!! There are good and bad in every walk of life you cant tar people for the actions of a few, What about the huge misjustice in the case of Garda Mcallion who died because he was a garda doing his job , No justice was given in this case either as his killer walked free !!!!


  • #83
    Resend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Resend


    Bosco boy wrote: »
    You didn't answer my question, what do you work at?
    why should i answer your question? are you going to beat me if i don't. ?


  • #84
    Resend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Resend


    the_syco wrote: »
    Definition of remorse: onion in ones pocket...

    From: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0527/1224297853162.html

    This happened after
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/garda-weeps-as-he-is-jailed-for-beating-man-unconscious-2659529.html

    Which was a response after they remarked about Mr Murphys clothing and laughed.


    So to summarise, Mr Murphy "drunkenly joked that a t-shirt worn by one of Foley's friends was "a bit gay" and Mr Foley then attacked Mr Murphy and left Mr Murphy unconscious. For this Mr Foley gets no jail time because he's a guard.

    Would commiting murder get a Garda jailed? Or would they be let go?
    he is a scummy thug with onion tears and legal 'remorse'

    Can the DPP appeal the sentence?


  • #85
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,377 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I thought the guards had psychological tests to weed out people who snap at a remark. I hope they review their procedures.


  • #86
    BrianD
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    I can understand the rationale behind the Judges decision. The guy would have to spend a good deal of time in solitary confinement which would be a substantially greater punishment than an ordinary person would get. Your career would be in tatters no matter what career you happened to be pursuing.

    However, it does send out the wrong message that he's got away with it.


  • #87
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    the_syco wrote: »
    Definition of remorse: onion in ones pocket...

    From: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0527/1224297853162.html

    This happened after
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/garda-weeps-as-he-is-jailed-for-beating-man-unconscious-2659529.html

    Which was a response after they remarked about Mr Murphys clothing and laughed.


    So to summarise, Mr Murphy "drunkenly joked that a t-shirt worn by one of Foley's friends was "a bit gay" and Mr Foley then attacked Mr Murphy and left Mr Murphy unconscious. For this Mr Foley gets no jail time because he's a guard.

    Would commiting murder get a Garda jailed? Or would they be let go?

    How did he get off? He didn't get jail but he still got a conviction and a suspended sentence. In addition he will lose his jon and has paid a large amount of money in compensation. There are cases were sex offendors don't have it that hard.
    charlemont wrote: »
    Yes, He is a thug, I wouldn't criticize the man if it was only a slap but what he did was scandalous, It was excessive and anyone else would get roughly 3 years for that assault.

    No they wouldn't.
    Resend wrote: »
    why should i answer your question? are you going to beat me if i don't. ?

    Pathetic.


  • #88
    Resend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Resend


    Seanbeag1 wrote: »
    How did he get off? He didn't get jail but he still got a conviction and a suspended sentence. In addition he will lose his jon and has paid a large amount of money in compensation. There are cases were sex offendors don't have it that hard.



    No they wouldn't.



    Pathetic.
    pathetic post


  • #89
    jakdelad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭jakdelad


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  • #90
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    jakdelad wrote: »
    very quite

    Shudder. Since you are such a fan of unrhyming poetry, and have appalling grammar:

    We must be free or die, who speak the tongue that Shakespeare spake.


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  • #91
    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    I think I have to agree with Bosco. The guy has not exactly walked away clean.


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