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[CoD MW3] General News and Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭hightower1


    Leeg17 wrote: »
    If they reduce it to 1 and keep a DC type of perk I'm happy. Also if they keep a FJ type perk aswell they won't make too much of a difference.

    They're handy for clearing a room of a persistant camper. It's the OMA DC cross map spamming that plagued Mw2 that should NEVER be repeated.

    Never again <hangs head in rememberence>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    Theres absolute no need for sniper rifles when maps arent even that big.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,282 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Theres absolute no need for sniper rifles when maps arent even that big.

    But..but..how would people quickscope pwn the noobs? Did you consider the noobs for one second?:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,651 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Softair wrote: »
    fourzerotwo latest reply to a follower on twitter -

    ''
    @MrDubbot Grenade launchers are a valuable tool in modern arsenals. There is no doubt they need rebalancing from MW2, but not removal. #MW3''

    looks like boopers are still in the game.

    Idiots they should be totally removed

    "Theres absolute no need for sniper rifles when maps arent even that big."

    Nope

    Yes the maps arent BF standard but they are still well capable of sniping, look at the jungle map for example

    The devs since mw2 have made a balls of sniping and none have come up with any ideas to alter snipping so you wont get destroyed all the time

    My ideas would be dont let the enemy see the killcam or give them a better 2nd weapon etc etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭hightower1


    Theres absolute no need for sniper rifles when maps arent even that big.


    So very very true.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭niallon




    The IGN lads have done their own analysis, not a whole lot different from 141_Oscar_Mike's posted a page or two ago but they have spotted the Freedom Tower in the NY skyline, not due for completion till 2014 so there's a time frame anyway.

    And of course it'll be one of the main sources of controversy with MW3, thankfully it'll primarily only affect the US so we won't have the Joe Duffy debacle we had in 09 with MW2!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭hightower1


    AGB_Ghost wrote: »
    Not really, look at CSS the maps are very urban and full of corridors and people still use snipers.

    So removing them just closes the customization options you have plus maps that are big will be boring as hell, imagine CoD4 Creek with no snipers or bog.


    Only a handfull of maps are sniper friendly - note SNIPER friendly, quickscopers are not snipers.

    The rest of the time the sniper class are not used as intended, its the same as MLC being set up with tac knife... again the class, perksor attachements not being used as intended and the same with Tube / OMA/ danger close... not being used as intended.

    Any class IMO thats not being used by the community in large as intended should be scrapped.... If you cant play with the toys given to you properly you wont be given them again.

    The onl classes that are used correctly by and large and as intended are the LMG class, AR classes , SMG classes (except when in tandem with tac knife pistol secondary) and riot shield classes.

    They should limit OMA, Scavenger, Tubes, Commando, and use of Mrathon / lightweight in tandem. Perhaps keep the sniper class but severly limit it to force people to use it as intended. Remove SOH and limit the movement speed greatly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    hightower1 wrote: »
    Only a handfull of maps are sniper friendly - note SNIPER friendly, quickscopers are not snipers.

    The rest of the time the sniper class are not used as intended, its the same as MLC being set up with tac knife... again the class, perksor attachements not being used as intended and the same with Tube / OMA/ danger close... not being used as intended.

    Any class IMO thats not being used by the community in large as intended should be scrapped.... If you cant play with the toys given to you properly you wont be given them again.

    The onl classes that are used correctly by and large and as intended are the LMG class, AR classes , SMG classes (except when in tandem with tac knife pistol secondary) and riot shield classes.

    They should limit OMA, Scavenger, Tubes, Commando, and use of Mrathon / lightweight in tandem. Perhaps keep the sniper class but severly limit it to force people to use it as intended. Remove SOH and limit the movement speed greatly.

    You have no idea what the developers "INTENTIONS" were when creating the sniper class... anyway lets not start this debate for hte 10000th time. You don't like sniping in CoD for whatever reason.. alot of people do... it aint going anywhere... deal with it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭yimrsg


    hightower1 wrote: »
    Only a handfull of maps are sniper friendly - note SNIPER friendly, quickscopers are not snipers.

    The rest of the time the sniper class are not used as intended, its the same as MLC being set up with tac knife... again the class, perksor attachements not being used as intended and the same with Tube / OMA/ danger close... not being used as intended.

    Any class IMO thats not being used by the community in large as intended should be scrapped.... If you cant play with the toys given to you properly you wont be given them again.

    The onl classes that are used correctly by and large and as intended are the LMG class, AR classes , SMG classes (except when in tandem with tac knife pistol secondary) and riot shield classes.

    They should limit OMA, Scavenger, Tubes, Commando, and use of Mrathon / lightweight in tandem. Perhaps keep the sniper class but severly limit it to force people to use it as intended. Remove SOH and limit the movement speed greatly.

    Wow so instead of trying to incorporate a particular type of gun into a game as the "developer intended" we should remove it? The community deems what way they'll play with the toys not the developer. If the developer messed up implementing it in the first place then it's at fault.

    It's a complete cop-out to say that if a class isn't used as the developers intended and to blame the community, the developers released it they take the blame first and foremost.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    niallon wrote: »


    The IGN lads have done their own analysis, not a whole lot different from 141_Oscar_Mike's posted a page or two ago but they have spotted the Freedom Tower in the NY skyline, not due for completion till 2014 so there's a time frame anyway.

    And of course it'll be one of the main sources of controversy with MW3, thankfully it'll primarily only affect the US so we won't have the Joe Duffy debacle we had in 09 with MW2!

    Oh I guarantee we'll have to endure Duffy and co's tedious gibberish yet again later this year :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭hightower1


    Magill wrote: »
    You don't like sniping in CoD for whatever reason

    Just one small edit there... I like sniping in cod, but quick scoping isnt sniping. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Oh I guarantee we'll have to endure Duffy and co's tedious gibberish yet again later this year :pac:

    "they teach children how to quickscope Joe!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    hightower1 wrote: »
    Just one small edit there... I like sniping in cod, but quick scoping isnt sniping. :)

    And recovering to full health in seconds after being shot in the head isn't factual or realistic either :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭niallon


    Oh I guarantee we'll have to endure Duffy and co's tedious gibberish yet again later this year :pac:

    I was so close to ringing in 09! Somemone who works in a GAME or that rang in and put forward the only logical points of the entire show, I wanted to do the same seeing as all Christmas I had to put up with:

    "Jaysus how can yee be selling that to children!"

    "Eh, we're not. It's 18s!!"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭niallon


    AGB_Ghost wrote: »
    MW2 is set in 2016

    Cheers, couldn't remember and thought it was 2012 for some reason, would've suggested that the attack from Russia in MW3 is a second attempt rather than a continuation from MW2.

    Ah well, back to the drawing board!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭hightower1


    Magill wrote: »
    And recovering to full health in seconds after being shot in the head isn't factual or realistic either :)

    Diffeence being you can sort that by playing hardcore if you wish and make the health system more realistic , you got shot in the head - you die- end of.... there is however no mode to make a quick scoper a sniper though.


    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    niallon wrote: »
    I was so close to ringing in 09! Somemone who works in a GAME or that rang in and put forward the only logical points of the entire show, I wanted to do the same seeing as all Christmas I had to put up with:

    "Jaysus how can yee be selling that to children!"

    "Eh, we're not. It's 18s!!"


    that MW2 show made my brain melt listening to it, the poor guy from the games shop was trying to make valid points and being shouted down by hysterical mothers, yet Joe was more intent on blaming the sellers and makers of the game instead of the stupid parents who bought it for their precious chubby darlings.

    Used to get it all the time when I worked in HMV, telling parents GTA wasnt for kids and getting the "sure its only a game" response, then these same people returning it a few days later when little Fiachra was seen bludgeoning a hooker to death with a baseball bat and whinging about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    krudler wrote: »
    that MW2 show made my brain melt listening to it, the poor guy from the games shop was trying to make valid points and being shouted down by hysterical mothers, yet Joe was more intent on blaming the sellers and makers of the game instead of the stupid parents who bought it for their precious chubby darlings.

    Used to get it all the time when I worked in HMV, telling parents GTA wasnt for kids and getting the "sure its only a game" response, then these same people returning it a few days later when little Fiachra was seen bludgeoning a hooker to death with a baseball bat and whinging about it.

    Its just to please the audience in fairness, most of the viewers are ole ones or grumps that like to whinge about anything.

    Almost as bad as this one, was fuming at the end of watching it :D



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    ^ thats exactly the thing I'm talking about, ludicrous, uninformed statements made by hysterical people, the audience hissing at the guy from CVG is a joke, ****ing morons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭hightower1


    krudler wrote: »
    ^ thats exactly the thing I'm talking about, ludicrous, uninformed statements made by hysterical people, the audience hissing at the guy from CVG is a joke, ****ing morons.

    Ah Joe Duff, his show and hs audience are well known for being "the mob" basically thick, uninformed and only fuled by emotion rather than facts.
    I dont think anyone bar themselves take the whole thing seriously.

    Duffy is the worst bit of the whole equation though... he knows all this full well but basically stirrs the mob into a frenzy spouting what they want to hear and disregarding any facts or points that dont get a visceral response from the mob. He's like the kid who hangs in the back of a schoolyard fight just moaning "whhhhhooooooooo" .... "oooohhhhhhhhh" at everything thats said just to stir s**t. WANKER.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭Mr. Rager


    hightower1 wrote: »
    Diffeence being you can sort that by playing hardcore if you wish and make the health system more realistic , you got shot in the head - you die- end of.... there is however no mode to make a quick scoper a sniper though.


    :)

    Wait...you want realism from a game where soldiers run around part of a city, killing each other for sport, only for them to respawn and throw a tomahawk into the air in the hope that it will somehow hit someone and Scalper, 250exp will show up in a magical HUD inside their head. The soldiers all have superhero abilities, like falling on the ground and pulling out a pistol to snipe someone across the map after the other person has put a full clip of ammunition into their chest?

    COD is totally unrealistic, and it never will be. Why shouldn't a sniper run around and quickscope if their able to. The game isn't supposed to be realistic, its supposed to be fun and enjoyable, which it is.

    All in all, i have seen your same rant about quickscoping on numerous threads, and I and everyone else get it. I have no problem with quickscoping myself, apart from the annoying 10 year olds who are ****e but think there L33T just because there names are like xX zZirN0SCopeZz Xx, etc. Look, its your opinion, but you don't need to voice your thoughts on every thread :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Call of Duty: Modern Trenchfoot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    AGB_Ghost wrote: »
    Ok let me ask all of you one thing


    would you rather have a fully realistic game (snipers have extreme sway, you have to wait days on end until your platoon rolls out, one bullet kills you and you can never ever respawn again)


    or have a fun game like what CoD is, it may not be realistic but it is fun to play.

    I want a cod game where you get one bullet to the gut and die slowly of septicemia in a GI hospital, like that bit in Forrest Gump but without the icecream and ping pong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭citizen_p


    Magill wrote: »
    Almost as bad as this one, was fuming at the end of watching it :D
    <snip>
    "can you gaurntee me games won't be far more violent and corrupt people in 10 years"

    for **** sake the gaming rep isn't houdini or god of all games developers... how can he answer that.
    The gaming industry rep held his own and obviously knew he ws the enemy and "bad guy" of the show...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,027 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    fjsanchez wrote: »
    Wait...you want realism from a game where soldiers run around part of a city, killing each other for sport, only for them to respawn and throw a tomahawk into the air in the hope that it will somehow hit someone and Scalper, 250exp will show up in a magical HUD inside their head. The soldiers all have superhero abilities, like falling on the ground and pulling out a pistol to snipe someone across the map after the other person has put a full clip of ammunition into their chest?

    COD is totally unrealistic, and it never will be. Why shouldn't a sniper run around and quickscope if their able to. The game isn't supposed to be realistic, its supposed to be fun and enjoyable, which it is.

    All in all, i have seen your same rant about quickscoping on numerous threads, and I and everyone else get it. I have no problem with quickscoping myself, apart from the annoying 10 year olds who are ****e but think there L33T just because there names are like xX zZirN0SCopeZz Xx, etc. Look, its your opinion, but you don't need to voice your thoughts on every thread :)
    AGB_Ghost wrote:
    Ok let me ask all of you one thing


    would you rather have a fully realistic game (snipers have extreme sway, you have to wait days on end until your platoon rolls out, one bullet kills you and you can never ever respawn again)


    or have a fun game like what CoD is, it may not be realistic but it is fun to play.

    I don't necessarily want realism as the bottom line in this game... all I want is an even one!

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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