Can Gardai ask you where you're going?

Bogger77 · 09-05-2011 11:03PM

end a eknny wrote: »

no seriously what are the question like
1) is your father still in the force or did he retire
2) if somebody rings and reports a burglary or disturbance, how long would you have to leave it to make sure it is safe to go there
3)you only have another half hour to go and you are finished, you are five minutes from the station when you see an incident that might take up ten minutes of your time where do you look to make sure you cant see the person looking for your help
4) you are driving down the road you meet a car overtaking another car. the car overtaking is full of scumbags and has a blank windscreen, the car been overtaken is out of tax last month which car do you stop
5) you are going to buy something from your local diy shop. you take the squad car and go during working hours in your uniform what is the least amount of discount you would accept.
6) you are chatting to somebody outside of work they casually ask what you do. how many questions should you ask them before you admit that you are a civil servant
7) is there ever a social situation whereby it is ok to admit that you are a gardai.
8) you see a young one driving past and you think bet she would love a big thick country gardai what bullsh1t excuse do you make up to get her to "step out of the vehicle"

my guess, is that you're from either Pollagh or Killurin, with the standard of your posts

Vizzy · 09-05-2011 11:04PM

10) did you say your name was end a eknny ?

tayto lover · 13-05-2011 02:42PM

end a eknny wrote: »

no seriously what are the question like
1) is your father still in the force or did he retire
2) if somebody rings and reports a burglary or disturbance, how long would you have to leave it to make sure it is safe to go there
3)you only have another half hour to go and you are finished, you are five minutes from the station when you see an incident that might take up ten minutes of your time where do you look to make sure you cant see the person looking for your help
4) you are driving down the road you meet a car overtaking another car. the car overtaking is full of scumbags and has a blank windscreen, the car been overtaken is out of tax last month which car do you stop
5) you are going to buy something from your local diy shop. you take the squad car and go during working hours in your uniform what is the least amount of discount you would accept.
6) you are chatting to somebody outside of work they casually ask what you do. how many questions should you ask them before you admit that you are a civil servant
7) is there ever a social situation whereby it is ok to admit that you are a gardai.
8) you see a young one driving past and you think bet she would love a big thick country gardai what bullsh1t excuse do you make up to get her to "step out of the vehicle"

That has to be the lowest post i have read here in ages and really shows your true colours and your character. How you can tar 14 thousand people with the same brush i seriously cannot understand. You might have grounds for saying something like that about one or two individuals you have met but to say it about all of them is sheer spite. You must have a serious grudge and it is obvious to me, although you deny it, that you were indeed caught for something and have a record and that is the reason for your spite. You just cannot bear to tell us though. Shame on you. You have questioned their I.Q. on occasions but at least they have caught you and that is clear.

end a eknny · 13-05-2011 08:39PM

tayto lover wrote: »

That has to be the lowest post i have read here in ages and really shows your true colours and your character. How you can tar 14 thousand people with the same brush i seriously cannot understand. You might have grounds for saying something like that about one or two individuals you have met but to say it about all of them is sheer spite. You must have a serious grudge and it is obvious to me, although you deny it, that you were indeed caught for something and have a record and that is the reason for your spite. You just cannot bear to tell us though. Shame on you. You have questioned their I.Q. on occasions but at least they have caught you and that is clear.

you couldnt be more wrong i am a totally law abiding citizen and if i ever done anything wrong, i would have to be one very unlucky and two very stupid to get caught

end a eknny · 13-05-2011 08:42PM

Bogger77 wrote: »

my guess, is that you're from either Pollagh or Killurin, with the standard of your posts

got me there, now if you could just narrow it down to one or the other inspector clueso

tayto lover · 13-05-2011 10:53PM

end a eknny wrote: »

you couldnt be more wrong i am a totally law abiding citizen and if i ever done anything wrong, i would have to be one very unlucky and two very stupid to get caught

Then it must be jealousy. Were you refused entry to the Garda ?

AudreyHepburn · 13-05-2011 11:02PM

end a eknny wrote: »

you couldnt be more wrong i am a totally law abiding citizen and if i ever done anything wrong, i would have to be one very unlucky and two very stupid to get caught

If you never ended up on the wrong side of the law, never gotten shirty with. refused to cooperate with or given lip to a Garda then why in the world do you have such a chip on your shoulder?

I find it hard to believe it's all on them.

Our man in Havana · 13-05-2011 11:04PM

Garda cheer-leading squad is back I sees.

AudreyHepburn · 13-05-2011 11:09PM

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Garda cheer-leading squad is back I sees.

Good god this crap again :rolleyes:

What is the problem with not automatically slagging off the Gardai or not insulting when the topic comes up?

hondasam · 13-05-2011 11:14PM

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Garda cheer-leading squad is back I sees.

matching uniforms :pac:

Captain_Generic · 13-05-2011 11:18PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Good god this crap again :rolleyes:

What is the problem with not automatically slagging off the Gardai or not insulting when the topic comes up?

You're like a salmon, battling the current to get upstream.

Gardai, pack of **** the lot of them, they ate my sandwich and so forth

tayto lover · 13-05-2011 11:43PM

Captain_Generic wrote: »

You're like a salmon, battling the current to get upstream.

Gardai, pack of **** the lot of them, they ate my sandwich and so forth

There are a lot of big brave lads on this thread alright. They would probably run a mile with fear if confronted by anyone and cry to the garda if in trouble. Cowards hiding behind a computer screen.

Buceph · 13-05-2011 11:50PM

tayto lover wrote: »

There are a lot of big brave lads on this thread alright. They would probably run a mile with fear if confronted by anyone and cry to the garda if in trouble. Cowards hiding behind a computer screen.

Would you prefer they stab their confronters rather than go to the guards?

I hope you're not a guard yourself then.

Esel · 14-05-2011 12:24AM

There are definitely a few members posting all the same.

hondasam · 14-05-2011 01:43AM

Esel wrote: »

There are definitely a few members posting all the same.

There are definitely a few wannabe members posting as well

Esel · 14-05-2011 01:52AM

^ Did you hear a whoosh when you read my post :cool:

hondasam · 14-05-2011 01:55AM

Esel wrote: »

^ Did you hear a whoosh when you read my post :cool:

must be the sound of the uniform:D

tayto lover · 14-05-2011 10:34AM

hondasam wrote: »

must be the sound of the uniform:D

Well i'm not a garda as i am a retired man who was self employed. However i would not have minded being a member of such a proud and true profession and working to keep my country a great place to live in.
I have always gone by the opinion that if you are not prepared to help the gardai and stand behind them then you are part of the crime culture, so if the cap fits lads .....

JohnathanM · 14-05-2011 11:41AM

tayto lover wrote: »

Well i'm not a garda as i am a retired man who was self employed. However i would not have minded being a member of such a proud and true profession and working to keep my country a great place to live in.
I have always gone by the opinion that if you are not prepared to help the gardai and stand behind them then you are part of the crime culture, so if the cap fits lads .....

Hang on a second. You are old enough to have watched the Gardai assist in the institutionalisation of paedophilia and political corruption, and would still have been happy to join them? Proud and true is no reflection of the service as a whole, and the suggestion that people lacking confidence in them are automatically a criminal element is a poor shill gambit.

barone · 14-05-2011 12:05PM

mikom wrote: »

In soviet Russia you ask guard where he is going.

in soviet russia guard TELL you where your going

MagicSean · 14-05-2011 12:29PM

JohnathanM wrote: »

Hang on a second. You are old enough to have watched the Gardai assist in the institutionalisation of paedophilia and political corruption, and would still have been happy to join them? Proud and true is no reflection of the service as a whole, and the suggestion that people lacking confidence in them are automatically a criminal element is a poor shill gambit.

Can you point me to one Garda who is still in the job who was involved in that?

JohnathanM · 14-05-2011 12:54PM

Seanbeag1 wrote: »

Can you point me to one Garda who is still in the job who was involved in that?

What's the relevance, here? A man makes the point in defence of the Gardai that they are "proud and true" and he would have been happy to join them. The counter-point is that during his working life, they were not. Given that Gardai were still being criticised for ignoring claims made against priests in the 1990s, I think consideration of their complicity is still useful.

MagicSean · 14-05-2011 01:35PM

JohnathanM wrote: »

What's the relevance, here? A man makes the point in defence of the Gardai that they are "proud and true" and he would have been happy to join them. The counter-point is that during his working life, they were not. Given that Gardai were still being criticised for ignoring claims made against priests in the 1990s, I think consideration of their complicity is still useful.

The relevance is that it is a different organisation now. Massive turnover in staff. Big policy and procedural overhauls. New accountability and disciplinary measures supported by legislation.

Even back then the Gardaí were a good force. They did things differently but well in line with the ways of the country at the time. Remember, it wasn't just Gardaí that ignored complaints. It was parents too. Nobody believed religious representatives could behave in this way.

JohnathanM · 14-05-2011 01:54PM

Seanbeag1 wrote: »

The relevance is that it is a different organisation now. Massive turnover in staff. Big policy and procedural overhauls. New accountability and disciplinary measures supported by legislation.

Even back then the Gardaí were a good force. They did things differently but well in line with the ways of the country at the time. Remember, it wasn't just Gardaí that ignored complaints. It was parents too. Nobody believed religious representatives could behave in this way.

None too convinced. I would expect garda from earlier times to be gone from attrition, rather than forcibly removed and prosecuted. I find it difficult to find details on this, so if you know of any I'd be interested. I also find it difficult to be impressed by this seemingly special place members of the Church were put in. The Gardai are there to enforce the law, not pander to interest groups and that is relevant at any point in time.

As for overhaul, Kathleen O’Toole made recommendations for reform only this year. In doing so she referenced Elliott's finding that complaints from a girl about clerical abuse given directly to the Gardai in 2005 were not appropriately handled.

Grass between the tracks · 14-05-2011 02:14PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73e5kMrOfMQ

Sums them up nicely.

tayto lover · 14-05-2011 02:15PM

JohnathanM wrote: »

Hang on a second. You are old enough to have watched the Gardai assist in the institutionalisation of paedophilia and political corruption, and would still have been happy to join them? Proud and true is no reflection of the service as a whole, and the suggestion that people lacking confidence in them are automatically a criminal element is a poor shill gambit.

How many ordinary people knew that was going on at the time or even believed much of it.? If you read some of the reports you will find that indeed many Garda officers did believe it and followed up on the complaints despite much pressure being put on them by people in higher positions many outside the Garda force. Another cheap shot by you.
You failed to mention the many Gardai who gave their lives in defence of the state and its people too conveniently i'd say as it does not suit your biased argument.

JohnathanM · 14-05-2011 02:43PM

tayto lover wrote: »

How many ordinary people knew that was going on at the time or even believed much of it.?

As your comment on willingness to serve was retrospective, you made it in full knowledge of what transpired.

tayto lover wrote: »

If you read some of the reports you will find that indeed many Garda officers did believe it and followed up on the complaints despite much pressure being put on them by people in higher positions many outside the Garda force.

I can appreciate the fortitude of some individual members to act in line with the law and moral decency, but the simple fact of the matter is that the Gardai as a service did not. Political pressure be damned; a point of the executive should be able to hold its own. If it cannot, it should be replaced and certainly not excused.

tayto lover wrote: »

Another cheap shot by you.
You failed to mention the many Gardai who gave their lives in defence of the state and its people too conveniently i'd say as it does not suit your biased argument.

That's what I would call a cheap shot; relying on the deaths of thirty-one people to distract from the argument and bolster your position.

tayto lover · 14-05-2011 03:23PM

JohnathanM wrote: »

As your comment on willingness to serve was retrospective, you made it in full knowledge of what transpired.

I can appreciate the fortitude of some individual members to act in line with the law and moral decency, but the simple fact of the matter is that the Gardai as a service did not. Political pressure be damned; a point of the executive should be able to hold its own. If it cannot, it should be replaced and certainly not excused.

That's what I would call a cheap shot; relying on the deaths of thirty-one people to distract from the argument and bolster your position.

Well now is that not what you did ? Or are you just picking and choosing the bits that suit you. I did let you accuse the entire Garda force as you would have liked to do. Be fair about it. If you have evidence of abuse you should inform the Ombudsman rather than come on here anonymously and blame everyone. Be brave.

JohnathanM · 14-05-2011 03:28PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Well now is that not what you did ? Or are you just picking and choosing the bits that suit you. I did let you accuse the entire Garda force as you would have liked to do. Be fair about it. If you have evidence of abuse you should inform the Ombudsman rather than come on here anonymously and blame everyone. Be brave.

I'm finding your comments to make increasingly less sense. You've gone from tarring those lacking confidence in the Gardai as "criminal element" and callous as to the death of other people, to... well, I actually don't know what.

What are you trying to say to me here, and on what basis?

tayto lover · 14-05-2011 03:31PM

JohnathanM wrote: »

I'm finding your comments to make increasingly less sense. You've gone from tarring those lacking confidence in the Gardai as "criminal element" and callous as to the death of other people, to... well, I actually don't know what.

What are you trying to say to me here, and on what basis?

Ok so now you want to try and berate me because i stood up to your Garda bias. You know well what i'm on about and you are the one not making sense. Grow up.

Can Gardai ask you where you're going?

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