What would Ireland be like if the UK didn't exist?

Kevin Duffy · 09-05-2011 11:08PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

it started with an italian family in glasgow,therefore we'd still have no chips

Please tell me you just put in some effort researching this. Please.

m@cc@ · 09-05-2011 11:10PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

it started with an italian family in glasgow,therefore we'd still have no chips

Well, push it back a bit further and it was in fact the Belgians who invented 'chips' as we know them.

Celly Smunt · 09-05-2011 11:13PM

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Please tell me you just put in some effort researching this. Please.

actually i am sorry! that was the first fish and chip take away.it was invented by a jew in london called Joseph Malin

ejmaztec · 09-05-2011 11:13PM

Bye Bye Shakespeare you bastard!

Celly Smunt · 09-05-2011 11:14PM

m@cc@ wrote: »

Well, push it back a bit further and it was in fact the Belgians who invented 'chips' as we know them.

not in the chipper fashion

hogflem · 09-05-2011 11:15PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

And thanks to the non-existence of Henry VIII, there wouldn't be any protestants in either of 'em, and we'd all be pagans:P

And what a wonderful place it would be:)

ejmaztec · 09-05-2011 11:16PM

We could have still been shafted by the Normans.:(

dsmythy · 09-05-2011 11:19PM

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

We'd be more Norse and Breton influenced, if the Anglo - Saxons weren't added to the mix. Alternatively, perhaps the Romans would have colonised the island of Ireland?

I'd say there'd be a northern French flavour to us alight.

ejmaztec · 09-05-2011 11:20PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Pagan Loyalists..

Loyal to what?

King Billy wouldn't have left Holland and the future would have been rosy and not orange.

Pinturicchio · 09-05-2011 11:24PM

The League of Ireland would be much stronger.

holystungun9 · 09-05-2011 11:37PM

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Mods, I, as a casual user of boards, urge, beg, and if it comes to it, offer my body (knock yourself out, pal), for some sort of filter for all these Brits, Queen, West Britain, us-them, do we need them, are they like us, do they need us, do they like us, would you marry one of them, would they marry one of us, why would you join their army, would you wear a poppy, where is our apology, etc, etc, etc, et fupin cetera. I'm no expert but I think that if you add up all the comments from all these types of threads and were to do some analysis, it would appear that Jimmy Joe Average user or indeed Mary Jane mega user (swap names if you think this is sexist or some other sh1te), gets up in the morning and proceeds to think about all the aforemetioned stuff from the time they open their eyes till they close them at night. And then continues to dream about them till the next morning. In reality, I don't think this is the case, I hope people have other things to occupy them as well. Can a dedicated forum be set up, something like 'Irish British opionions / sentiment'. And then a sort of division, a humourous one and the other being the more serious one. I'll be honest I don't go on to after hours to get a degree, generally it is for some light entertainment, maybe learn something, see another point of view, remember an old film, hear some 'news', something topical, etc. Surely we have reached the stage that all the aforementioned 'stuff' for want of a better can be encouraged to be brought up in another forum, i.e. not AH, and people can go to that forum if they want a serious debate or go to the not so serious one for some other banter. How to moderate this, I don't know. An out right ban on a set list of words is ridiculous, or at what point does a thread talking about the news turn into one of the other types of thread I don't know. But, it must be becoming an issue now surely?

Celly Smunt · 09-05-2011 11:40PM

holystungun9 wrote: »

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Mods, I, as a casual user of boards, urge, beg, and if it comes to it, offer my body (knock yourself out, pal), for some sort of filter for all these Brits, Queen, West Britain, us-them, do we need them, are they like us, do they need us, do they like us, would you marry one of them, would they marry one of us, why would you join their army, would you wear a poppy, where is our apology, etc, etc, etc, et fupin cetera. I'm no expert but I think that if you add up all the comments from all these types of threads and were to do some analysis, it would appear that Jimmy Joe Average user or indeed Mary Jane mega user (swap names if you think this is sexist or some other sh1te), gets up in the morning and proceeds to think about all the aforemetioned stuff from the time they open their eyes till they close them at night. And then continues to dream about them till the next morning. In reality, I don't think this is the case, I hope people have other things to occupy them as well. Can a dedicated forum be set up, something like 'Irish British opionions / sentiment'. And then a sort of division, a humourous one and the other being the more serious one. I'll be honest I don't go on to after hours to get a degree, generally it is for some light entertainment, maybe learn something, see another point of view, remember an old film, hear some 'news', something topical, etc. Surely we have reached the stage that all the aforementioned 'stuff' for want of a better can be encouraged to be brought up in another forum, i.e. not AH, and people can go to that forum if they want a serious debate or go to the not so serious one for some other banter. How to moderate this, I don't know. An out right ban on a set list of words is ridiculous, or at what point does a thread talking about the news turn into one of the other types of thread I don't know. But, it must be becoming an issue now surely?

surely this belongs in feedback,or the no paragraph forum

Kevin Duffy · 09-05-2011 11:41PM

holystungun9 wrote: »

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Mods, I, as a casual user of boards, urge, beg, and if it comes to it, offer my body (knock yourself out, pal), for some sort of filter for all these Brits, Queen, West Britain, us-them, do we need them, are they like us, do they need us, do they like us, would you marry one of them, would they marry one of us, why would you join their army, would you wear a poppy, where is our apology, etc, etc, etc, et fupin cetera. I'm no expert but I think that if you add up all the comments from all these types of threads and were to do some analysis, it would appear that Jimmy Joe Average user or indeed Mary Jane mega user (swap names if you think this is sexist or some other sh1te), gets up in the morning and proceeds to think about all the aforemetioned stuff from the time they open their eyes till they close them at night. And then continues to dream about them till the next morning. In reality, I don't think this is the case, I hope people have other things to occupy them as well. Can a dedicated forum be set up, something like 'Irish British opionions / sentiment'. And then a sort of division, a humourous one and the other being the more serious one. I'll be honest I don't go on to after hours to get a degree, generally it is for some light entertainment, maybe learn something, see another point of view, remember an old film, hear some 'news', something topical, etc. Surely we have reached the stage that all the aforementioned 'stuff' for want of a better can be encouraged to be brought up in another forum, i.e. not AH, and people can go to that forum if they want a serious debate or go to the not so serious one for some other banter. How to moderate this, I don't know. An out right ban on a set list of words is ridiculous, or at what point does a thread talking about the news turn into one of the other types of thread I don't know. But, it must be becoming an issue now surely?

The heroes of 1916 died and the Magna Carta was written so you could post this appeal.

the_syco · 09-05-2011 11:41PM

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

Alternatively, perhaps the Romans would have colonised the island of Ireland?

The Romans called Ireland the "Island of Winter", or something to that effect, so I think not. We would have probably colonised more places.

=-=

Or we would hate someone else. The english only came as they were invited by some f**ker who was exiled. If the english did not exist, the wee bastard would have probably asked for help from the French. I'd say we'd be speaking German after Hitler invaded.

evillive · 09-05-2011 11:42PM

Pinturicchio wrote: »

The League of Ireland would be much stronger.

no england = no soccer

the small ball would be the only game and Tipperary would rule with hurls of steel:D

Celly Smunt · 09-05-2011 11:43PM

the_syco wrote: »

The Romans called Ireland the "Island of Winter", or something to that effect, so I think not. We would have probably colonised more places.

isn't that where the term hibernia came from?,Ierne means winter or something in greek and derived then to latin?

Unpossible · 09-05-2011 11:56PM

holystungun9 wrote: »

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Mods, I, as a casual user of boards, urge, beg, and if it comes to it, offer my body (knock yourself out, pal), for some sort of filter for all these Brits, Queen, West Britain, us-them, do we need them, are they like us, do they need us, do they like us, would you marry one of them, would they marry one of us, why would you join their army, would you wear a poppy, where is our apology, etc, etc, etc, et fupin cetera. I'm no expert but I think that if you add up all the comments from all these types of threads and were to do some analysis, it would appear that Jimmy Joe Average user or indeed Mary Jane mega user (swap names if you think this is sexist or some other sh1te), gets up in the morning and proceeds to think about all the aforemetioned stuff from the time they open their eyes till they close them at night. And then continues to dream about them till the next morning. In reality, I don't think this is the case, I hope people have other things to occupy them as well. Can a dedicated forum be set up, something like 'Irish British opionions / sentiment'. And then a sort of division, a humourous one and the other being the more serious one. I'll be honest I don't go on to after hours to get a degree, generally it is for some light entertainment, maybe learn something, see another point of view, remember an old film, hear some 'news', something topical, etc. Surely we have reached the stage that all the aforementioned 'stuff' for want of a better can be encouraged to be brought up in another forum, i.e. not AH, and people can go to that forum if they want a serious debate or go to the not so serious one for some other banter. How to moderate this, I don't know. An out right ban on a set list of words is ridiculous, or at what point does a thread talking about the news turn into one of the other types of thread I don't know. But, it must be becoming an issue now surely?

But you see after the break-up we expected her to still call around, pay some compliments, hell maybe even have another bit of a fumble in the dark when drunk. Instead there was all that bitterness over the custody battle who we had to give up our rights on, then we went and joined the sexy countries currency just to let her know we don't need her.

Oh god how we really miss her, if only she'd call, why does she keep going off on foreign holidays with that fella from the new world? He dumped her before we did FFS.

Pauleta · 10-05-2011 12:00AM

Tv would be pants.

Daegerty · 10-05-2011 12:51AM

Pauleta wrote: »

Tv would be pants.

as it is already.

bhur · 10-05-2011 01:04AM

I wonder if the Uk didnt exist would holystungun9 exist?

dpe · 10-05-2011 12:37PM

Does the OP mean physically doesn't exist, or the country of the UK doesn't exist but something else is in its place?

If its physically doesn't exist, then there probably wouldn't be a nation of Ireland either (because the Irish people wouldn't have got here), and it would be an Island settled by Scandinavians or Spaniards (except they wouldn't be the same either because Europe's development would be utterly different).

If its the United Kingdom doesn't exist, then it would be a bunch of people over here moaning about the bunch of people over there who've treated them like crap for hundreds of years. Ireland's history is determined by its geography, so just like Poles will always moan about their bigger neighbours, the Irish will always moan about the occupants of the island to their right, it doesn't really matter what they call themselves.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · 10-05-2011 12:45PM

There'd be no 20km tailbacks on the Dublin side of Newry coming up to Christmas

bnt · 10-05-2011 01:00PM

For starters, I doubt there would be one Ireland: more like four. After Cork was carpet-bombed during the Leinster-Munster Civil War of 1992, the UN landed "peacekeepers" in Connemara and marched on Galway. The US Navy Seals landed strike teams in Phoenix Park to take out the Leinster ringleaders, but struggled to make progress across the Liffey after the Connaught Liberation Army deployed a "dirty bomb" in St. Stephen's Green ...

Cú Giobach · 10-05-2011 02:51PM

What would Ireland be like if the UK didn't exist?

Less like this and more like this.

gigino · 10-05-2011 03:21PM

we would be bartering bits of spuds among ourselves.

Canals, railways, harbours, maritime navigation systems, lighthouses, legal system, buildings like Trinity, B of I College Green etc - forget it. We were at the leading edge of the developed world 90 years ago. Now we are know for having absorbed huge amounts of EC aid over 4 decades, and mountains of debt **** up other countries

Cú Giobach · 10-05-2011 03:34PM

gigino wrote: »

we would be bartering bits of spuds among ourselves.

Canals, railways, harbours, maritime navigation systems, lighthouses, legal system, buildings like Trinity, B of I College Green etc - forget it. We were at the leading edge of the developed world 90 years ago. Now we are know for having absorbed huge amounts of EC aid over 4 decades, and mountains of debt **** up other countries

Interesting.
Do you feel the people who inhabit this island are some sort of untermenschen who are intellectually challenged in comparison to humans who inhabit other bits of land?

gigino · 10-05-2011 03:51PM

Cú Giobach wrote: »

Interesting.
Do you feel the people who inhabit this island are some sort of untermenschen who are intellectually challenged in comparison to humans who inhabit other bits of land?

No, but we have proven over the past 90 years that we are not capable of governing ourselves. We are brilliant in some other areas though.

Cú Giobach · 10-05-2011 04:07PM

gigino wrote: »

No, but we have proven over the past 90 years that we are not capable of governing ourselves. We are brilliant in some other areas though.

Is that right?
You live in a paradise compared to billions of people around the world, do you know what real hunger feels like?
Do you know what it is like to work till breaking point just for food (if you have an internet connection and computer I doubt it).
Do you realise you are actually among the Elite of the planet at this time in history, all thanks to the people who developed this country from a third world backwater to the place it is today.
The economic situation is due not to our ability to look after ourselves but to globalisation and the international monetary system, just watch as the rest of the smaller European countries go under and the control of the larger ones grow.

Aldito · 10-05-2011 04:52PM

Cú Giobach wrote: »

all thanks to the people who developed this country from a third world backwater to the place it is today.

no, you don't understand, we have to pretend the british DIDN'T exist

Cú Giobach · 10-05-2011 05:06PM

Aldito wrote: »

no, you don't understand, we have to pretend the british DIDN'T exist

OK, then.
Feudalism wouldn't have ever got a hold and we would have continued electing leaders and from the nobility electing leaders from the nobility, that would have developed to people electing ordinary people, consequently we would have had a highly democratic society while Europe festered in feudalistic shit. By today we would have a wonderful egalitarian and perfect society and live in utter bliss. *

(I may or may not be getting drunk and having highly idealistic ideas) *

What would Ireland be like if the UK didn't exist?

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