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What would Ireland be like if the UK didn't exist?

  • 09-05-2011 8:54pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭


    A bit more isolated and self sufficient maybe like Iceland? Certainly a more interesting place to visit anyway I reckon but the economy would never have been as strong

    Since we have a unique inability to think for ourselves, which country would we look at to copy their laws, shops, tv shows and ideas from? Holland, France, Belgium?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Daegerty wrote: »
    A bit more isolated and self sufficient maybe like Iceland? Certainly a more interesting place to visit anyway I reckon but the economy would never have been as strong

    Since we have a unique inability to think for ourselves, which country would we look at to copy their laws, shops, tv shows and ideas from? Holland, France, Belgium?

    Collectively or individually? I'd beg to differ on both counts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    We'd all be speaking Irish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    Daegerty wrote: »
    A bit more isolated and self sufficient maybe like Iceland? Certainly a more interesting place to visit anyway I reckon but the economy would never have been as strong

    Since we have a unique inability to think for ourselves, which country would we look at to copy their laws, shops, tv shows and ideas from? Holland, France, Belgium?

    Atlantis


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    we'd still be bitching about the vikings


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    English wouldnt be our first language -
    I reckon we'd be as economically viable as Haiti -
    Famines every so often -
    Dictatorship -


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Daegerty wrote: »
    Holland, France, Belgium?

    Spain!
    Big connection to Spain, sure look at Galway and Spanish Arch and other connections

    They steal our fish, we worship their football players


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Senna wrote: »
    We'd all be speaking Irish.

    no we wouldnt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    Hmmm...since the science of tectonics says...well, what it says, I'm gonna go with we'd be part of continental Europe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Spain!

    Big connection to Spain, sure look at Galway and Spanish Arch and other connections

    They steal our fish, we worship their football players

    Like messi the argentinian


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    No Tesco?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    We'd be German


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Chnandler Bong


    We would'nt have any football teams to support


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Like messi the argentinian

    More like Ronaldo the Portugese


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Chnandler Bong


    More like Ronaldo the Portugese
    And Mrs Fernando Torres.... oh no wait:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    spain, we are descended from the basques :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭van der vart


    Bobby Sands would be President


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    We'd be more Norse and Breton influenced, if the Anglo - Saxons weren't added to the mix. Alternatively, perhaps the Romans would have colonised the island of Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Jonniealan


    We'd be Krauts !

    Frankfurter and sour kraut would be teh national dish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,227 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    People here would be all bald from scratching their heads, trying to figure out who to blame for everything, and then finally decide it was those bastards on Greenland wot dun it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    We would have beaten the Mayans to self destruction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 105 ✭✭bhur


    b68w48.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Let's not beat about the bush, we're not asking 'what Ireland would be like if the UK didn't exist?', but rather 'what Ireland would be like if England didn't exist?'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,227 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    m@cc@ wrote: »
    Let's not beat about the bush, we're not asking 'what Ireland would be like if the UK didn't exist?', but rather 'what Ireland would be like if England didn't exist?'

    We'd all be wearing tartan kilts and speaking Welsh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    I take it we are working on the basis that all discoveries and inventions associated with Britain would still exist?


  • Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Surfing conditions would be better on the east coast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    We'd be rich!

    North Sea oil


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭spdmrphy


    Saila wrote: »
    spain, we are descended from the basques :)

    If we were Basque, we wouldn't be Spanish!

    ETA would have a lot more gingers in their ranks too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    cosanostra wrote: »
    I take it we are working on the basis that all discoveries and inventions associated with Britain would still exist?

    Depends since Britain is obviously different from the UK.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Would be a lack of culture and brilliance in the world.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    spdmrphy wrote: »
    If we were Basque, we wouldn't be Spanish!

    Previous poster never implied this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Would be a lack of culture and brilliance in the world.....
    Dont ever change Keith...



    There would be no St Patrick for a start! Would the Romans have invaded here instead maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Scotland would have two states instead. :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Daegerty wrote: »
    What would Ireland be like if the UK didn't exist?

    Well we wouldn't have these questions thank god!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    The straight answer is that if the UK didn't exist then Ireland wouldn't exist.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Bobby Sands would be President

    Hell no.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    We'd find another old enemy to moan about and whinge about 800 years of angst and woe.

    Then we'd support their top sports teams, watch their tv programmes, speak their language and the shops in our main streets would be just like theirs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Dont ever change Keith...



    There would be no St Patrick for a start! Would the Romans have invaded here instead maybe?

    No. They'd probably have discovered America instead


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Scotland would have two states instead. :pac:

    Eh?

    Scotland wouldn't exist according to the thread title. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Unpossible


    My history isn't great, but I think we had our own parliment before the UK was formed and the country was beginning to get industrialised. So if the UK hadn't come into being we would probably have ended up like Scotland. Who knows if we would have become a republic or at the least, independant from England.



    edit: some people seem to be confusing Great Britian with the UK


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    We would'nt have any football teams to support



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    there'd be no chips.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    there'd be no chips.

    What, the Italians wouldn't come over? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Lapin wrote: »
    Eh?

    Scotland wouldn't exist according to the thread title. :confused:

    Depends on whether they meant geographically or politically.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    What, the Italians wouldn't come over? :pac:

    walter raleigh ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,227 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Scotland would have two states instead. :pac:

    And thanks to the non-existence of Henry VIII, there wouldn't be any protestants in either of 'em, and we'd all be pagans:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭abelard


    Is it at all possible that a string Irish monarchy would have established itself. Then in the following few centuries we could have become fairly rich through our strategic position (without the UK being there) on maritime routes between the Mediterranean/North Africa and the Scandinavian countries/Germany/Russia and later Europe and the Americas. We could have even become somewhat of a maritime power, and dare I say may have had our own modest colonial possessions.

    All pretty unlikely though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭spdmrphy


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    walter raleigh ;)

    Twas the spaniards who brought it to Europe, Raleigh just brought it to England.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    spdmrphy wrote: »
    Twas the spaniards who brought it to Europe, Raleigh just brought it to England.

    but the english brought it to Ireland


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