Poles getting Irish passports

beagle001 · 06-04-2011 01:14PM #1

Hey,
3 polish girls at work have received their Irish passports since the new year and 4 more have told me they have applied for Irish citizenship.
Main reason being to obtain a visa for Oz and USA but some so they can get benefits a bit quicker or take up education.
Now I must say all of them are nice folk and not in it to scam the system just to aid their future.
I thought that an EU national could not take up another EU citizenship without giving up their countries of births citizenship.
Seems this is different in Poland they can hold dual passports.
Any info on this

suicide_circus · 06-04-2011 01:16PM

Dey tuk ar....passports!

Sykk · 06-04-2011 01:18PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Dey tuk ar....passports!

I had full intentions of using that exact line when entering this thread. :mad:

Apanachi · 06-04-2011 01:18PM

beagle001 wrote: »

Seems this is different in Poland they can hold dual passports.
Any info on this

Irish nationals can have dual citizenship too

MagicMarker · 06-04-2011 01:19PM

Pics or GTFO.

Guy:Incognito · 06-04-2011 01:20PM

beagle001 wrote: »

I thought that an EU national could not take up another EU citizenship without giving up their countries of births citizenship.
Seems this is different in Poland they can hold dual passports.
Any info on this

I've had dual nationality (Irish and German) and 2 passports since I was born (well an Irish one of my own since whatever age they let you)

mikemac · 06-04-2011 01:20PM

In the past Ireland had a reputation for selling passports to millionaires

Could be a way to raise some money

prinz · 06-04-2011 01:21PM

beagle001 wrote: »

I thought that an EU national could not take up another EU citizenship without giving up their countries of births citizenship.Seems this is different in Poland they can hold dual passports.
Any info on this

No EU standard. Depends on the naturalisation and citizenship laws in each country. Their Irish citizenship will not be recognised by the Polish State however, the Poles don't do dual citizenship, but the Irish State will recognise dual citizenship. If they are entitled to it, more power to them.

06-04-2011 01:22PM

nothing new in dual citizenship

nothing further to discuss

stovelid · 06-04-2011 01:25PM

You can hold an Irish and English passport at the same time, or at least you could IIRC.

conorhal · 06-04-2011 01:30PM

Pfft*

I'm sure many on this board will bleat 'racist', but I consider my status as a citizen of this state to mean something more than a shortcut to a visa to Oz, this is shameful, and further evidence of the EU's corrosion and commodification of national identity.

starbelgrade · 06-04-2011 01:30PM

stovelid wrote: »

You can hold an Irish and English passport at the same time, or at least you could IIRC.

You still can.

Faith+1 · 06-04-2011 01:32PM

Poland are in the EU??? Since when? Thought they were still in the Soviet Union/Warsaw Pact.
How times change

beagle001 · 06-04-2011 01:33PM

Guess they are just trying to work the system in their favour.
They tell me that getting a visa to the states or Oz is very difficult for Polish people and the Irish passport gives them a big advantage.

aujopimur · 06-04-2011 01:34PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Dey tuk ar....passports!

And dey tuk our wimmin

Absurdum · 06-04-2011 01:35PM

aujopimur wrote: »

And dey tuk our wimmin

I think we got the better deal tbh

UglyBolloxFace · 06-04-2011 01:35PM

stovelid wrote: »

You can hold an Irish and English passport at the same time, or at least you could IIRC.

[pedantic bastard mode] There's no such thing as an English passport - It's a British passport [/pedantic bastard mode]

prinz · 06-04-2011 01:35PM

conorhal wrote: »

.. and further evidence of the EU's corrosion and commodification of national identity.

It has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the E.U.

stovelid · 06-04-2011 01:39PM

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

[pedantic bastard mode] There's no such thing as an English passport - It's a British passport [/pedantic bastard mode]

Why does your post have a closing pedantic bastard mode bracket?

UglyBolloxFace · 06-04-2011 01:43PM

stovelid wrote: »

Why does your post have a closing pedantic bastard mode bracket?

Because I am hereby finished with my pedantic bastardism.

Sea Sharp · 06-04-2011 01:44PM

That means there's no incentive for hot Polish women to marry me on false pretenses for citizenship. :mad:

backthephilup · 06-04-2011 01:47PM

As any self respecting Russian spy or Israeli assassin will tell you "there's nothing like an Irish passport"

hardCopy · 06-04-2011 01:52PM

In other news, thousands of Irish have received naturalised citizenship in other countries for time immemorial

conorhal · 06-04-2011 01:56PM

prinz wrote: »

It has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the E.U.

Really?
Well I guess it must have nothing to do at all with those treaties we signed that surrendered any semblance of border control and that permit any EU citizen (or person married to an EU citizen) to reside here regardless of whether we either need or want them, and once here they cannot be excluded from working the system in the manner that the OP describes?
That fact has made Irish citizenship a commodity and a joke rather then a privilege and a responsibility.

conorhal · 06-04-2011 01:59PM

hardCopy wrote: »

In other news, thousands of Irish have received naturalised citizenship in other countries for time immemorial

In further news, I'd imagine that citizenship meant more to them than a piece of paper to be used as an effective transit visa.....

prinz · 06-04-2011 02:01PM

conorhal wrote: »

That fact has made Irish citizenship a commodity and a joke rather then a privilege and a responsibility.

The fact of the matter is our laws enable dual citizenship. Not Europe's, just the same way as Poland's laws don't recognise dual citizenship. Again nothing to do with Europe. How they came to be applying for citizenship is irrelevant.

Nodin · 06-04-2011 02:16PM

conorhal wrote: »

Really?
Well I guess it must have nothing to do at all with those treaties we signed that surrendered any semblance of border control and that permit any EU citizen (or person married to an EU citizen) to reside here regardless of whether we either need or want them, and once here they cannot be excluded from working the system in the manner that the OP describes?
That fact has made Irish citizenship a commodity and a joke rather then a privilege and a responsibility.

...wasn't one of our Dear Leaders selling passports, long before these treaties were signed.....?

conorhal · 06-04-2011 02:26PM

Nodin wrote: »

...wasn't one of our Dear Leaders selling passports, long before these treaties were signed.....?

So what's your point, that two wrongs make a right?
I vehemently disagree with that greedy grasping crook's flogging of citizenship to the highest bidder also.
It sickens me that money can buy the right to vote. As far as I'm concerned the OP should shop these lassies to the immigration bureau. We grant citizenship and the right to participate in our parliamentary democracy as a privilege and not a right, they can and should be refused their application on the grounds that their application is false.

Amalgam · 06-04-2011 02:30PM

conorhal wrote: »

As far as I'm concerned the OP should shop these lassies to the immigration bureau.

What are you like, have you bothered to read the first post, they're legal.

I have dual citizenship.. born here though.

conorhal · 06-04-2011 02:34PM

Amalgam wrote: »

What are you like, have you bothered to read the first post, they're legal.

I have dual citizenship.. born here though.

I understand that, but immigration and naturalization handle applications for citizenship and can refuse it.

RachaelVO · 06-04-2011 02:36PM

Apanachi wrote: »

Irish nationals can have dual citizenship too

Yep, my children have both dutch and irish!

Poles getting Irish passports

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