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Poles getting Irish passports

beagle001

Hey,
3 polish girls at work have received their Irish passports since the new year and 4 more have told me they have applied for Irish citizenship.
Main reason being to obtain a visa for Oz and USA but some so they can get benefits a bit quicker or take up education.
Now I must say all of them are nice folk and not in it to scam the system just to aid their future.
I thought that an EU national could not take up another EU citizenship without giving up their countries of births citizenship.
Seems this is different in Poland they can hold dual passports.
Any info on this

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suicide_circus

Dey tuk ar....passports!

Sykk

suicide_circus wrote: »

Dey tuk ar....passports!

I had full intentions of using that exact line when entering this thread. :mad:

Apanachi

beagle001 wrote: »

Seems this is different in Poland they can hold dual passports.
Any info on this

Irish nationals can have dual citizenship too

MagicMarker

Pics or GTFO.

Guy:Incognito

beagle001 wrote: »

I thought that an EU national could not take up another EU citizenship without giving up their countries of births citizenship.
Seems this is different in Poland they can hold dual passports.
Any info on this

I've had dual nationality (Irish and German) and 2 passports since I was born (well an Irish one of my own since whatever age they let you)

mikemac

In the past Ireland had a reputation for selling passports to millionaires

Could be a way to raise some money

prinz

beagle001 wrote: »

I thought that an EU national could not take up another EU citizenship without giving up their countries of births citizenship.Seems this is different in Poland they can hold dual passports.
Any info on this

No EU standard. Depends on the naturalisation and citizenship laws in each country. Their Irish citizenship will not be recognised by the Polish State however, the Poles don't do dual citizenship, but the Irish State will recognise dual citizenship. If they are entitled to it, more power to them.

[Deleted User]

nothing new in dual citizenship

nothing further to discuss

stovelid

You can hold an Irish and English passport at the same time, or at least you could IIRC.

conorhal

Pfft*

I'm sure many on this board will bleat 'racist', but I consider my status as a citizen of this state to mean something more than a shortcut to a visa to Oz, this is shameful, and further evidence of the EU's corrosion and commodification of national identity.

starbelgrade

stovelid wrote: »

You can hold an Irish and English passport at the same time, or at least you could IIRC.

You still can.

Faith+1

Poland are in the EU??? Since when? Thought they were still in the Soviet Union/Warsaw Pact.
How times change

beagle001

Guess they are just trying to work the system in their favour.
They tell me that getting a visa to the states or Oz is very difficult for Polish people and the Irish passport gives them a big advantage.

aujopimur

suicide_circus wrote: »

Dey tuk ar....passports!

And dey tuk our wimmin

Absurdum

aujopimur wrote: »

And dey tuk our wimmin

I think we got the better deal tbh

UglyBolloxFace

stovelid wrote: »

You can hold an Irish and English passport at the same time, or at least you could IIRC.

[pedantic bastard mode] There's no such thing as an English passport - It's a British passport [/pedantic bastard mode]

prinz

conorhal wrote: »

.. and further evidence of the EU's corrosion and commodification of national identity.

It has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the E.U.

stovelid

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

[pedantic bastard mode] There's no such thing as an English passport - It's a British passport [/pedantic bastard mode]

Why does your post have a closing pedantic bastard mode bracket?

UglyBolloxFace

stovelid wrote: »

Why does your post have a closing pedantic bastard mode bracket?

Because I am hereby finished with my pedantic bastardism.

Sea Sharp

That means there's no incentive for hot Polish women to marry me on false pretenses for citizenship. :mad:

backthephilup

As any self respecting Russian spy or Israeli assassin will tell you "there's nothing like an Irish passport"

hardCopy

In other news, thousands of Irish have received naturalised citizenship in other countries for time immemorial

conorhal

prinz wrote: »

It has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the E.U.

Really?
Well I guess it must have nothing to do at all with those treaties we signed that surrendered any semblance of border control and that permit any EU citizen (or person married to an EU citizen) to reside here regardless of whether we either need or want them, and once here they cannot be excluded from working the system in the manner that the OP describes?
That fact has made Irish citizenship a commodity and a joke rather then a privilege and a responsibility.

conorhal

hardCopy wrote: »

In other news, thousands of Irish have received naturalised citizenship in other countries for time immemorial

In further news, I'd imagine that citizenship meant more to them than a piece of paper to be used as an effective transit visa.....

prinz

conorhal wrote: »

That fact has made Irish citizenship a commodity and a joke rather then a privilege and a responsibility.

The fact of the matter is our laws enable dual citizenship. Not Europe's, just the same way as Poland's laws don't recognise dual citizenship. Again nothing to do with Europe. How they came to be applying for citizenship is irrelevant.

Nodin

conorhal wrote: »

Really?
Well I guess it must have nothing to do at all with those treaties we signed that surrendered any semblance of border control and that permit any EU citizen (or person married to an EU citizen) to reside here regardless of whether we either need or want them, and once here they cannot be excluded from working the system in the manner that the OP describes?
That fact has made Irish citizenship a commodity and a joke rather then a privilege and a responsibility.

...wasn't one of our Dear Leaders selling passports, long before these treaties were signed.....?

conorhal

Nodin wrote: »

...wasn't one of our Dear Leaders selling passports, long before these treaties were signed.....?

So what's your point, that two wrongs make a right?
I vehemently disagree with that greedy grasping crook's flogging of citizenship to the highest bidder also.
It sickens me that money can buy the right to vote. As far as I'm concerned the OP should shop these lassies to the immigration bureau. We grant citizenship and the right to participate in our parliamentary democracy as a privilege and not a right, they can and should be refused their application on the grounds that their application is false.

Amalgam

conorhal wrote: »

As far as I'm concerned the OP should shop these lassies to the immigration bureau.

What are you like, have you bothered to read the first post, they're legal.

I have dual citizenship.. born here though.

conorhal

Amalgam wrote: »

What are you like, have you bothered to read the first post, they're legal.

I have dual citizenship.. born here though.

I understand that, but immigration and naturalization handle applications for citizenship and can refuse it.

RachaelVO

Apanachi wrote: »

Irish nationals can have dual citizenship too

Yep, my children have both dutch and irish!