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  • #252
    roast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭roast


    Trevor451 wrote: »
    crysis seems to be preforming bad. Using the in game FPS command I can see that the fps is around 30 fps but sometimes it drops down to 16 fps :eek: I am playing at high settings (recommended) at 1080p res.
    The cpu is using the stock cooler yea

    Aftermarket coolers are dirt cheap. Even if you plan on replacing the CPU, and aftermarket cooler is always a decent option. You could definitely squeeze out some better performance from overclocking if you had a better cooler.


  • #253
    cherryghost
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Crysis never used 4 cores. A Tri core should trump it. It's heavily GPU dependant


  • #254
    Monotype
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    After somebody mentioned one in a thread, I see that AMD has released 3 new cards OEM only - 6450, 6570 and 6670.
    Very little info in the line of reviews as yet and not even listed on their 6000 series page, but the specs are all there so you can estimate.


  • #255
    lmimmfn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    Monotype wrote: »
    After somebody mentioned one in a thread, I see that AMD has released 3 new cards OEM only - 6450, 6570 and 6670.
    Very little info in the line of reviews as yet and not even listed on their 6000 series page, but the specs are all there so you can estimate.
    theyre just rebadged 5 series cards
    cherryghost wrote: »
    Crysis never used 4 cores. A Tri core should trump it. It's heavily GPU dependant
    yeah Crysis only ever uses 2 cores
    Trevor451 wrote: »
    crysis seems to be preforming bad. Using the in game FPS command I can see that the fps is around 30 fps but sometimes it drops down to 16 fps :eek: I am playing at high settings (recommended) at 1080p res.
    The cpu is using the stock cooler yea
    Well considering i have an i7 920@4Ghz and an OC'd 6970 and get 50FPS( drops to 35FPS at the end which is the most gpu intensive part of the game ) on average on high with only 2xAA and @1680x1050 i would say youre quite doing well.

    Ignoring idiots who comment "far right" because they don't even know what it means



  • #256
    Trevor451
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Trevor451


    Do you guys think that the AMD black edition x4 955 is worth it? Will I notice a good jump in performance in games? Also would the stock cooler be good enough so I could overclock it to around 3.5ghz? thanks :) Currently on a Athlon x3 3.2ghz


  • #257
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Trevor451 wrote: »
    Do you guys think that the AMD black edition x4 955 is worth it? Will I notice a good jump in performance in games? Also would the stock cooler be good enough so I could overclock it to around 3.5ghz? thanks :) Currently on a Athlon x3 3.2ghz

    If speaking solely from a gaming perspective then i'm not sure it is not worth it, the number of games that will see a performance boost going from X3 to X4 are few and far between.

    There is a decent selection of 7 different games (such as Crysis WH, L4D2, Fallout 3, COD WAW) benchmarked here for the Athlon II X3 435 vs an Athlon II X4 and the i5 750. At no point is the Athlon II X3 bottlenecking any of the games (They are using a still fairly respectable GT 260 as the GPU in this review)

    http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/athlon_ii_435_240e/17.htm


  • #258
    big_show
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭big_show


    I'm in the market for a TV that, in say 6 months down the line, will do as a monitor for a PC that I'm building.

    At the moment I'm looking at this Philips

    It's 100hz, 2ms RT, got decent reviews (from what i've seen) and a decent price.

    can anyone point out any snags i may hit down the line by choosing this? (ie too big? incomparability etc)

    Thanks

    EDIT: I will mainly be using it for PC gaming, wii and xbox.


  • #259
    Lu Tze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    big_show wrote: »
    I'm in the market for a TV that, in say 6 months down the line, will do as a monitor for a PC that I'm building.

    At the moment I'm looking at this Philips

    It's 100hz, 2ms RT, got decent reviews (from what i've seen) and a decent price.

    can anyone point out any snags i may hit down the line by choosing this? (ie too big? incomparability etc)

    Thanks

    EDIT: I will mainly be using it for PC gaming, wii and xbox.

    You should ask the lads in the richersounds forum, as they are the philips shop as well and know more about this TV i imagine than anybody that will answer you here.

    You never know, they might give you a better price as well.


  • #260
    Moon54
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭Moon54


    Hi,

    Does anyone know if 1920 X 1200 monitors are still being made?

    I have a BenQ one with that resolution and I love it, but I can't seem to find
    any in the online stores I tried.

    Cheers.


  • #261
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Moon54 wrote: »
    Hi,

    Does anyone know if 1920 X 1200 monitors are still being made?

    I have a BenQ one with that resolution and I love it, but I can't seem to find
    any in the online stores I tried.

    Cheers.
    I see plenty of them on Dabs and Hardwareversand that resolution is mostly on monitors 24" and up from what I can see. I think you would probably have to look for a 16:10 rather than 16:9 (TV resolution).


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  • #262
    Solitaire
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Dear oh dear... has OCZ been up to its old tricks again? :rolleyes:

    Needless to say, don't touch their SSDs with a bargepole! :o

    In fact, the entire SSD market will soon be getting a downgrade, as they're all slowly following suit and transitioning to cheapo low-quality 25nm chips, and in an SSD - especially a SandForce model - unreliability also translates to reduced effective capacity and reduced read/write speed, especially regarding crippled small-file read speed. The reason for the change? 25nm is cheap and nasty, so there's a bigger profit margin on the drives.

    Gotta love progress... :rolleyes::pac:


  • #263
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    Solitaire wrote: »
    Dear oh dear... has OCZ been up to its old tricks again? :rolleyes:

    Needless to say, don't touch their SSDs with a bargepole! :o

    In fact, the entire SSD market will soon be getting a downgrade, as they're all slowly following suit and transitioning to cheapo low-quality 25nm chips, and in an SSD - especially a SandForce model - unreliability also translates to reduced effective capacity and reduced read/write speed, especially regarding crippled small-file read speed. The reason for the change? 25nm is cheap and nasty, so there's a bigger profit margin on the drives.

    Gotta love progress... :rolleyes::pac:
    Very interesting!

    dont have time to read the entire article, but would that not affect all 25nm based sandforce SSD's? corsair F60 or F120?


  • #264
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Tea_Bag wrote: »
    Very interesting!

    dont have time to read the entire article, but would that not affect all 25nm based sandforce SSD's? corsair F60 or F120?

    Sandforce is the controller which is common to both drives and has not changed, the NAND module are the flash storage chips which OCZ have changed to 25mm, according to reviews Corsair use 32nm Intel MLCs (29F64G08CAMDB) and there is no suggestion these have changed on Force drives.


  • #265
    deejer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭deejer


    Trevor451 wrote: »
    Do you guys think that the AMD black edition x4 955 is worth it? Will I notice a good jump in performance in games? Also would the stock cooler be good enough so I could overclock it to around 3.5ghz? thanks :) Currently on a Athlon x3 3.2ghz


    Just wondering did you upgrade as I am thinking along the same lines. Was able to unlock the 4th core on the Athlon and had it running at 3.6Ghz but it was overheating with the stock cooler. Going to upgrade the cooler and give it another go.

    I guess if this works ok there prob no need to upgrade?


  • #266
    Solitaire
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Did you unlock the L3 cache as well? :D

    IMHO you shouldn't need to upgrade to a Phenom so long as you can keep the quad cool; an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev2 should keep it under control but if you have enough room in the case I'd strongly recommend a Xigmatek Gaia, Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus or similar 120mm cooler to keep that beast under better control ;)


  • #267
    tazzzZ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭tazzzZ


    How do u unlock the L3 cache??


  • #268
    Solitaire
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Depends on the mobo but if it actually works it should unlock along with any dormant cores...


  • #269
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    Solitaire wrote: »
    Depends on the mobo but if it actually works it should unlock along with any dormant cores...
    i was wondering this myself, would i see any jump from my athlon to a fully fledged phenom quad? its unlocked to quad core @2.9ghz with 6mb L3 cache. i cant find any benchmarks with the 2. i understand that they should be the same, but i have my reservations that i paid very little for a quad core phenom processor.


  • #270
    Solitaire
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Clock-for-clock, the Phenom will usually trump the Athlon especially in apps that require intensive data-shuffling around the CPU (particularly crypto and gaming!). For use in a gaming rig having the unlocked L3 is a big boost but if its the difference between OCing a Phenom X4 to 3GHz or the Athlon X4 to 3.6GHz, I'd be tempted to stick with the Athlon. And then again... four cores are (nowadays) always better than three, even for gaming.


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  • #271
    tazzzZ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭tazzzZ


    Aww pity. I have the 4th core unlocked but no l3. Agh well mine is only being used in a home server so the extra core is plenty.


  • #272
    deejer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭deejer


    Solitaire wrote: »
    Did you unlock the L3 cache as well? :D

    IMHO you shouldn't need to upgrade to a Phenom so long as you can keep the quad cool; an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev2 should keep it under control but if you have enough room in the case I'd strongly recommend a Xigmatek Gaia, Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus or similar 120mm cooler to keep that beast under better control ;)

    I have ordered this to tame the "beast" ;)


  • #273
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    deejer wrote: »
    I have ordered this to tame the "beast" ;)
    thats a fanless heatsink. have you read reviews on its cooling capabilities? (i havent)


  • #274
    Solitaire
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    It used to be the best air cooler available on the market... so long as you remembered to add the fan(s) :o


  • #275
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    i assume the best air cooler is now the noctua ndh14?


  • #276
    VenomIreland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    Tea_Bag wrote: »
    i assume the best air cooler is now the noctua ndh14?

    Thermalright's Silver Arrow is better by 2 or 3 degrees, apparently. It can also be had for less than the D14.


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  • #277
    deejer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭deejer


    ya i ordered two apache's. Interested to see how this cooler will do without the fans in FT02 case also.

    I have seen alot of fortress setups with the noctua cooler and they do a good job. But decided to go with the megahalems.

    Great tread for this case on hardform - you could spend a week looking through all the different setups if anyone is interested!

    The problem with this case and AMD chipset is getting a cooler that you can have at the correct orientation.


  • #278
    indough
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    VenomIreland wrote: »
    Thermalright's Silver Arrow is better by 2 or 3 degrees, apparently. It can also be had for less than the D14.

    do you know of anywhere its possible to buy one of these?


  • #279
    VenomIreland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    indough wrote: »
    do you know of anywhere its possible to buy one of these?

    Scan.co.uk is the only place I know of, but it's not in stock as of now.

    EDIT: Overclockers.co.uk have it also but it's more expensive .


  • #280
    indough
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    it hasnt been any time ive checked over the past months


  • #281
    VenomIreland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    overclockers.co.uk also have it, but it's more expensive.


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  • #282
    indough
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    thanks, they didnt have it listed at all the last time i checked. might get it from there if its not in stock on scan within the next week

    is there any reason why it isnt being stocked elsewhere?


  • #283
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,322 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I have a question, power supplies right. People buy Dell PCs with exacting power supplies making upgrades a bitch. But why dont they just make Direct Power Supplies for GPUs? Just you know like a laptop cable, except for a graphics card that you can snake into the back of your graphics card without having to ditch the existing PSU or pay out for a new one. Or even a good way to use an extra El Cheapo PSU to get the extra voltage to a card.


  • #284
    VenomIreland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    indough wrote: »
    thanks, they didnt have it listed at all the last time i checked. might get it from there if its not in stock on scan within the next week

    is there any reason why it isnt being stocked elsewhere?

    Probably because of demand, more people are interested in the slightly weaker NH-D14. Can't blame them though, it's been around longer.


  • #285
    cherryghost
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Overheal wrote: »
    I have a question, power supplies right. People buy Dell PCs with exacting power supplies making upgrades a bitch. But why dont they just make Direct Power Supplies for GPUs? Just you know like a laptop cable, except for a graphics card that you can snake into the back of your graphics card without having to ditch the existing PSU or pay out for a new one. Or even a good way to use an extra El Cheapo PSU to get the extra voltage to a card.

    There used to be 350W slimline PCI mounted PSUs that had only SATA and PCIe connectors on it. Of course it needs a second plug coming out the back but it was a decent solution I suppose. Can't remember the manufacturer, but I distinctly remember its impressive reviews.


  • #286
    Solitaire
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Bay drive PSUs were a fad for a while a few years back but the lack of adoption killed the trend in its infancy.


  • #287
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    A tech insider leak seen by xbitlabs suggests AMD will begin shipping Bulldozer chips from mid June shipping with the first IIlano parts following in early July.
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20110307165713_AMD_Finalizes_Shipment_Dates_for_Next_Gen_Chips.html

    Advanced Micro Devices has finalized shipments schedules of its future microprocessors, according to industrial sources. The world's second largest designer of x86 microprocessors will begin commercial shipments of its high-end FX-series chips based on Bulldozer micro-architecture in the second half of June and will initiate supplies of A-series code-named Llano accelerated processing units (APUs) in early July.

    Shipments of AMD FX-series high-end desktop microprocessors will commence on the week of June 20th, 2011; Supplies of A-series APUs will begin on the week of July 4th, 2011, according to industrial sources. As expected, AMD's Bulldozer central processing units for desktops will become available earlier than Llano APUs. As a result, AMD will be able to create a "halo" effect for its microprocessor lineup with a high-end offering that is projected to outperform existing Phenom II chips by 50%.

    Based on a document seen by X-bit labs, AMD plans to release four eight-core AMD FX8000-series chips, two six-core AMD FX6000-series microprocessors and two quad-core AMD FX4000-series central processing units (CPUs) this year; four chips are to be launched in Q2 2011, another four processors will be introduced in Q4 2011. The amount of quad-core and dual-core A-series APUs to be released this calendar year will be eleven, if the plans do not change.

    One of the intrigues that remain is the formal launch date of the new CPUs and APUs by AMD. Some expect the company to introduce its desktops chips with Bulldozer micro-architecture at the E3 trade-show.


  • #288
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,117 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    I like amd's naming convention. Far easier to understand than intel's i series naming convention where an i5 and an i7 can be either a dual core or a quad core. Do we have any pricing for these new processors yet?


  • #289
    Solitaire
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Fun to see the resurrection of the old FX moniker instead of Phenom3 - FX was used for their previous dual-CPU-in-a-can attempts. Guessing Llano's gonna be saddled with Athlon3 though :p Then again, if they really are 3.5GHz Phenom2s on a smaller process with an integrated HD5670 in them...


  • #290
    VenomIreland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    I still want benchmarks. Really looking forward to seeing these in action.


  • #291
    Solitaire
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    I doubt that the GPU would work too well without a glob of sideport though, GDDR5 has moved too far ahead of non-enthusiast DDR3 which would hurt memory bandwidth even on a wee HD5670... then again AMD or its board partners might release semi-budget-gaming chipsets with slowish GDDR5 sideport on, you never know... :)

    How's this idea for a retarded desktop replacement laptop? Given that higher-end laptop CPUs usually have a TDP of 35W and desktop-replacement laptops often sport desktop CPUs that draw nearly four times that... imagine an SMP laptop with four decent-spec mobile Athlon3 APUs :D Up to sixteen cores and if plugged into the mains all the graphical power of a HD5870... in a laptop! :D


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  • #292
    VenomIreland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    Solitaire wrote: »
    I doubt that the GPU would work too well without a glob of sideport though, GDDR5 has moved too far ahead of non-enthusiast DDR3 which would hurt memory bandwidth even on a wee HD5670... then again AMD or its board partners might release semi-budget-gaming chipsets with slowish GDDR5 sideport on, you never know... :)

    How's this idea for a retarded desktop replacement laptop? Given that higher-end laptop CPUs usually have a TDP of 35W and desktop-replacement laptops often sport desktop CPUs that draw nearly four times that... imagine an SMP laptop with four decent-spec mobile Athlon3 APUs :D Up to sixteen cores and if plugged into the mains all the graphical power of a HD5870... in a laptop! :D

    I'm more interested in the CPU's than the APU's, although for laptops and such they are an amazing idea (especially in desktop replacements as you noted).


  • #293
    Solitaire
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Yeah, the APUs aren't much use to enthusiasts but could be a godsend to budget-limited multimedia users and light gamers in the desktop space. In the mobile arena... if AMD decide to play with HT the way they were going to in the beginning a multi-APU laptop might not be as unlikely as you think... ;) After all with CF you could glue together several HD5670-class GPUs and make them into something very nasty indeed... :D

    Its gonna be interesting to see how strong that GPU ends up, and if the combination of the 32nm process and the major Stars revision going into the Athlon3s give them both major clock-speed and power-per-cycle boosts over Phenom2...


  • #294
    VenomIreland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    Solitaire wrote: »
    Yeah, the APUs aren't much use to enthusiasts but could be a godsend to budget-limited multimedia users and light gamers in the desktop space. In the mobile arena... if AMD decide to play with HT the way they were going to in the beginning a multi-APU laptop might not be as unlikely as you think... ;) After all with CF you could glue together several HD5670-class GPUs and make them into something very nasty indeed... :D

    Its gonna be interesting to see how strong that GPU ends up, and if the combination of the 32nm process and the major Stars revision going into the Athlon3s give them both major clock-speed and power-per-cycle boosts over Phenom2...

    Should be fun to see the prices of these APU's, hopefully for HTPC and Laptop owners they won't be to expensive. On that point, I'm just hoping the CPU's are around the same price point as Intel's Sandybridge, but more powerful than Sandybridge (I can dream, can't I?).


  • #295
    Solitaire
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,378 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Its possible that Bulldozer will be just as strong but around the same price - it all depends on how efficient those demux/muxes are in splitting threads up for dual-instruction-core consumption, as it gives Dozer a theoretical <99% boost in processing per cycle, but if the increase ends up less than 40% then its in trouble :o

    It'll be interesting to see how close to Athlon2 that Llano falls regarding pricing, as Intel have utter tripe in this segment - in the ultrabudget range they are still reliant on HT-less dualies, many based on the old Core2 topology, and AMD has been beating them silly outside the OEM markets.


  • #296
    VenomIreland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    If it's the same or slightly better performance for the same price I'd still go with AMD. The motherboards would almost certainly be cheaper (although probably not ones that support SLI out of the box, also, no pushpins) and I much prefer AMD.


  • #297
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    i think i might hold off putting together a HTPC until these arrive. a CPU with a very strong GPU on board for a low (read: AMD) price? yes please.


  • #298
    Trevor451
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Trevor451


    I am really looking forward to getting battlefeild 3 this summer :D I was reading that EA were running the game on high settings with a GTX580 gfx card. How well does the 6850 stand up to this card? I dont want to upgrade my rig just for this game :o


  • #299
    oceanclub
    Registered Users Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    Solitaire wrote: »
    First time in a while I've seen someone moan about AMD legacy support :p nVidia is horrible for legacy support for both hardware and software :o

    Having had a GTX 560 Ti for a month now, I'm regretting my purchase. I'm having huge trouble with display drivers not responding during games, particularly annoying in MW2 and, tonight, Bioshock 2 MP. I'm getting several errors a day at this point. I tried the latest beta driver as well, just in case, but no luck.

    EDIT: Just as an experiment, I tried underclocking the card. Hey presto this so far seems to have worked. Before underclocking, I couldn't play more than 5 minutes without a freeze. After lowering it from 900Mhz to 850Mhz, I was able to play for an hour, problem-free.

    P.


  • #300
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    stumbled across a bargain laptop and wonder what ye think of it.

    specs as follows:
    Genuine Windows® 7 Professional with XP Mode Installed 32 bit
    Intel® Core™ I5-480M(2.66GHz)
    Trend Micro Worry-Free Business Security Services, 15-month
    Services & Software
    1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day
    Declined Accidental Damage offer
    Also Includes
    Microsoft® Office Starter 2010 includes reduced-functionality of Word & Excel w/ advertising
    Memory : 4096MB 1333MHz DDR3
    17.3” 44 cm High Definition+ (1600x900) Wide LED Anti-Glare Display
    LCD Back Cover : Silver WLAN
    Hard Drive : 320GB Serial ATA (7,200 Rpm)
    Graphics : NVIDIA® Geforce™ GT 330M, 1GB Graphics
    Optical Drive : 8X DVD+/-RW Drive
    Wireless : Dell Bluetooth 365 Card
    Palmrest : Fingerprint Reader Biometric
    Camera : Integrated 2.0 Mega Pixel Camera
    Keyboard : Internal Backlit Keyboard
    1M Power Cord
    Battery : Primary 6-cell 56W/HR LI-ION
    Vostro 3700 BTS : Config FCG43UK3
    1 Year Collect and Return
    Vostro Laptop V3700 BTS Order - Ireland
    Power Cord : 3 Wire 90W AC Adpater
    N0337S29
    Wireless : ROW Dell Wireless 1501 (802.11n) Half Mini Card

    all for €392

    will it be any good at gaming, and is 2.7kg @ 17.3" too big to lug around college work?


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  • #301
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,117 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Tea_Bag wrote: »
    stumbled across a bargain laptop and wonder what ye think of it.

    specs as follows:



    all for €392

    will it be any good at gaming, and is 2.7kg @ 17.3" too big to lug around college work?

    Having used a 17" laptop before for college, I'd say yes. I wouldn't go any bigger than 15". Oo-er.


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