Illumination of Conscience

Keylem · 01-03-2011 03:42PM #1

It seems that there are various prophesies indicating the 'imminent' warning and Illumination of conscience, whereby everyone in the world would in an instant see the condition of their souls before God. Usually this only happens at death, but God will allow the living to see the state of their souls, should they come before His Judgement Seat.

Some links!

http://www.markmallett.com/blog/2007/05/eye-of-the-storm/

http://www.catholicprophecy.info/warning.html

Donatello · 01-03-2011 04:35PM

Keylem wrote: »

It seems that there are various prophesies indicating the 'imminent' warning and Illumination of conscience, whereby everyone in the world would in an instant see the condition of their souls before God. Usually this only happens at death, but God will allow the living to see the state of their souls, should they come before His Judgement Seat.

Some links!

http://www.markmallett.com/blog/2007/05/eye-of-the-storm/

http://www.catholicprophecy.info/warning.html

I've heard of this, plus the three days of darkness to follow. Seems like any time now would be ideal!

Keylem · 01-03-2011 04:40PM

The Garabandal seers said that it would happen in their lifetimes, and some of them in there early sixties now!

Also the seers at Medgugorje said pretty much the same thing!

Donatello · 01-03-2011 04:55PM

Keylem wrote: »

The Garabandal seers said that it would happen in their lifetimes, and some of them in there early sixties now!

Also the seers at Medgugorje said pretty much the same thing!

You might like this. It's a prophecy about the times we are now living in by a famous mystic.

I had another vision of the great tribulation. It seems to me that a concession was demanded from the clergy which could not be granted. I saw many older priests, especially one, who wept bitterly. A few younger ones were also weeping. But others, and the lukewarm among them, readily did what was demanded. It was as if people were splitting into two camps.

I saw that many pastors allowed themselves to be taken up with ideas that were dangerous to the Church. They were building a great, strange, and extravagant Church. Everyone was to be admitted in it in order to be united and have equal rights: Evangelicals, Catholics, sects of every description. Such was to be the new Church ... But God had other designs...

[...]

I saw deplorable things: they were gambling, drinking, and talking in church; they were also courting women. All sorts of abominations were perpetrated there. Priests allowed everything and said Mass with much irreverence. I saw that few of them were still godly... All these things caused me much distress....

[..]

More than ever faithful Catholics need to pray for the Holy Father and for those Bishops, priests and religious who remain faithful to the Magisterium. There is in preparation a schism the likes of which few can imagine. Ecclesiastical masonry seeks to build a counterfeit church within the true Church, one which is based on a humanitarian religion which will serve the Antichrist.

It is so sad that prophets are ignored. Pope JPII also spoke about the anti-Church. Here in Ireland, the ACP embodies this anti-Church. They want gay sex, women priests, and all sorts of other things which Holy Church tells us are immoral, or impossible. They want to build their own church using the current infrastructure of the Catholic Church to do it. Clever and demonic.

If you were to raise this with them, they'd say you were nuts, which only goes to prove that they are the unknowing pawns of Satan, who is the mastermind behind all that they do. They like to think they do a good thing, even as they try to tear down the Church of Christ.

La Salette also addressed this current time of apostasy.

Keylem · 01-03-2011 05:05PM

Thanks for the link, I will peruse it later!

The world is so steeped in sin that it was inevitable that God would intervene for the sake of His Mercy!

Our Lord said to Faustina, that first would come His Mercy, then Judgement!

Keylem · 01-03-2011 05:14PM

Donatello wrote: »

You might like this. It's a prophecy about the times we are now living in by a famous mystic.

It is so sad that prophets are ignored. Pope JPII also spoke about the anti-Church. Here in Ireland, the ACP embodies this anti-Church. They want gay sex, women priests, and all sorts of other things which Holy Church tells us are immoral, or impossible. They want to build their own church using the current infrastructure of the Catholic Church to do it. Clever and demonic.

If you were to raise this with them, they'd say you were nuts, which only goes to prove that they are the unknowing pawns of Satan, who is the mastermind behind all that they do. They like to think they do a good thing, even as they try to tear down the Church of Christ.

La Salette also addressed this current time of apostasy.

It certainly describes the way things are today. I'm wondering if the ACP and it's likes are the abomination and desolation described in Daniel and the Matthew:

Daniel 9:27
Matthew 24:15

newmug · 01-03-2011 05:15PM

This stuff scares me. But the only consolation I have is that I love God, and he loves me. In the end, The Lord triumphs over all evil. All this trial-and-tribulation stuff has to come to pass first however, so keep the light of The Lord burning in your hearts.

Keylem · 01-03-2011 05:17PM

newmug wrote: »

This stuff scares me. But the only consolation I have is that I love God, and he loves me. In the end, The Lord triumphs over all evil. All this trial-and-tribulation stuff has to come to pass first however, so keep the light of The Lord burning in your hearts.

God would do this for love of us - It would be an act of Mercy on his part to give the human race a wake-up call.

Donatello · 01-03-2011 05:26PM

Keylem wrote: »

It certainly describes the way things are today. I'm wondering if the ACP and it's likes are the abomination and desolation described in Daniel and the Matthew:

Daniel 9:27
Matthew 24:15

Possibly. The way some priests treat the Mass, it is an abomination, and such Masses may well be invalid if the priest does not have the intention, as defined by the Council of Trent, to do what the Church does in the confection of the Sacraments. With Barney and Batman on the altar, it is questionable if they mean to offer a valid Mass. Scary stuff, and reason why good Catholics should not attend Masses said by dissenting priests - not only are you supporting them with your presence, but you may also be partaking of invalid sacraments and sacrilege. It is for this very reason that I stopped confessing to a certain priest. His dissent on various doctrines led me to doubt that he means to do what the Church does in the sacrament of confession. Support holy priests and holy parishes with your presence and your money. Starve dissenters of money and pew-sitters.

It troubles me that in my local area, there are those who see themselves as 'faithful Catholics' but who see no issue with attending sacrilegious Masses. They do not realise the danger they place their own faith in, nor the scandal caused by their presence which supports the renegade priest by granting him an audience. No audience, and he might amend his life. With an audience, he carries on what he is doing, the presence of the people would give him confirmation that what he is doing must be good, at least in the eyes of those present. This is a crisis of formation in our laity who do not and will not understand these things, for I have tried to explain this to them but to no avail.

newmug wrote: »

This stuff scares me. But the only consolation I have is that I love God, and he loves me. In the end, The Lord triumphs over all evil. All this trial-and-tribulation stuff has to come to pass first however, so keep the light of The Lord burning in your hearts.

This is it - as long as one is in a state of grace, and remains faithful, there is no cause for alarm - these things must happen before the end.

Keylem · 01-03-2011 05:48PM

Also the Catholic Doctrine of Hell isn't preached often enough from the pulpits!

http://www.tanbooks.com/doct/hell.htm

Donatello · 01-03-2011 05:52PM

Keylem wrote: »

Also the Catholic Doctrine of Hell isn't preached often enough from the pulpits!

http://www.tanbooks.com/doct/hell.htm

I find it very interesting that, not only do most priests not preach about hell, but they don't preach about heaven either. It's as if they do not believe, or that they only have a very superficial understanding of Catholic doctrine. I blame the problem on the appalling formation received, primarily at Maynooth Seminary.

I also find that the priests do not preach about the love of God. Sure, they preach about a fluffy, nebulous 'love' in the worldly sense, but they don't preach the God Who IS charity, Who is love and what all that means.

Ah well. There's always EWTN.

Keylem · 01-03-2011 07:11PM

EWTN is Awesome!

Keylem · 01-03-2011 09:16PM

St. Faustina describes a vision of this "warning" as well:

Before I come as the just Judge, I am coming first as the King of Mercy. Before the day of justice arrives, there will be given to people a sign in the heavens of this sort:
All light in the heavens will be extinguished, and there will be great darkness over the whole earth. Then the sign of the cross will be seen in the sky, and from the openings where the hands and the feet of the Savior were nailed will come forth great lights which will light up the earth for a period of time. This will take place shortly before the last day. —Divine Mercy in My Soul, Diary, n. 83
Suddenly I saw the complete condition of my soul as God sees it. I could clearly see all that is displeasing to God. I did not know that even the smallest transgressions will have to be accounted for. What a moment! Who can describe it? To stand before the Thrice-Holy-God! —St. Faustina; Divine Mercy in My Soul, Diary, n. 36

Donatello · 02-03-2011 02:49AM

Keylem wrote: »

Suddenly I saw the complete condition of my soul as God sees it. I could clearly see all that is displeasing to God. I did not know that even the smallest transgressions will have to be accounted for. What a moment! Who can describe it? To stand before the Thrice-Holy-God! —St. Faustina; Divine Mercy in My Soul, Diary, n. 36
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I get the odd, fleeting glimpse of my own soul the odd time. Mostly darkness and despair, from what I've seen. This wretched little creature has in Christ its only hope.

Keylem · 02-03-2011 11:20AM

Donatello wrote: »

I get the odd, fleeting glimpse of my own soul the odd time. Mostly darkness and despair, from what I've seen. This wretched little creature has in Christ its only hope.

I've had a few moments of anguish also, and helplessness, but I've had moments of happiness and joy too!

Sgt Hartman · 02-03-2011 04:23PM

Donatello wrote: »

I get the odd, fleeting glimpse of my own soul the odd time. Mostly darkness and despair, from what I've seen. This wretched little creature has in Christ its only hope.

I've looked into my own soul recently and I see a complete mess. Constant and persistent lapses into vices and indifference is my main problem. I lose focus and fall into sin way too easily. Since the start of the year I've decided to try and cast aside the things which have been dragging me down. I've had success with certain things but complete failure so far with others. I'm in dire need of a good confession also.

I'm just going to continue praying and hoping that Jesus will help me to have and to keep the willpower and strength necessary to defeat my vices and live a more righteous life.

Keylem · 02-03-2011 04:35PM

Sgt Hartman wrote: »

I've looked into my own soul recently and I see a complete mess. Constant and persistent lapses into vices and indifference is my main problem. I lose focus and fall into sin way too easily. Since the start of the year I've decided to try and cast aside the things which have been dragging me down. I've had success with certain things but complete failure so far with others. I'm in dire need of a good confession also.

I'm just going to continue praying and hoping that Jesus will help me to have and to keep the willpower and strength necessary to defeat my vices and live a more righteous life.

Overcoming our faults and failings is a journey, which we can overcome one step at a time -it will always be a constant battle until we meet Our Lord at the end of our earthly life. The Saints in Heaven struggled with much the same when on earth

Baggio1 · 02-03-2011 04:45PM

ah yes "the great warning" as some people are calling it,
yehah its coming alright - did you know it has been postponed twice? was to be in the 80's then the 90's that was a surprise to me, apparantly by all the prayers and offerings and sacrifices made by those who know about it, God delayed it,,,but apprantly there will NOT be a 3rd postsponment..... its gonna be one heck of a day!!!! all those who know of it will have to help all those about us who are stunned by it....

what ive read is the signs that its coming are - for the Pope to leave Rome during the coming revolution and the Comet will be clearly seen day and night, there's supposed to be a combination of things, apparantly the comet to collide with the sun/moon or part of it, causing a massive explosion and effect in the sky at which moment everyone will be brought to the judgement seat, it wont last long maybe 10minutes,,but we will be OUTSIDE of time and we'll see all our UNCONFESSED sins shown to us and we will be warned NOT to take the chip or worship the coming anti christ Maitreya

so there ya go... fascinating stuff alright.....

newmug · 02-03-2011 04:51PM

Baggio1 wrote: »

ah yes "the great warning" as some people are calling it,
yehah its coming alright - did you know it has been postponed twice? was to be in the 80's then the 90's that was a surprise to me, apparantly by all the prayers and offerings and sacrifices made by those who know about it, God delayed it,,,but apprantly there will NOT be a 3rd postsponment..... its gonna be one heck of a day!!!! all those who know of it will have to help all those about us who are stunned by it....

what ive read is the signs that its coming are - for the Pope to leave Rome during the coming revolution and the Comet will be clearly seen day and night, there's supposed to be a combination of things, apparantly the comet to collide with the sun/moon or part of it, causing a massive explosion and effect in the sky at which moment everyone will be brought to the judgement seat, it wont last long maybe 10minutes,,but we will be OUTSIDE of time and we'll see all our UNCONFESSED sins shown to us and we will be warned NOT to take the chip or worship the coming anti christ Maitreya

so there ya go... fascinating stuff alright.....

Where'd you hear all this? And whats supposed to happen next, the 1000 year reign of the bad fella, or is that gone already? I thought the judgement was supposed to be the VERY last thing that happens?

Baggio1 · 02-03-2011 05:05PM

its all there in the seer's acounts,, am useless at links ahha maybe one of the other guys can show some,,,,:)

following the warning if mankind doesnt change for the better we will recieve the chastisement, war ,famine and the arrival of the anti christ along with his false prophet - the false pope, yeah they will have a new world religeon along with the one world govermant and one world finance,,, traditional catholics and others will reject this guy but the vast majority will follow and worship him, the abomination of desolation is a combination of the mass being completely banned and replaced with worship of this guy and his image being errected in a huge statue, churces themselves will have this image in them not Christs image anymore.... anyway he has 3 and a half years max!
,,, then the ball of redemtion (thats the comet returning folks!) will be sent to wipe out a lot of the worlds population - well ALL Maitreya;s followers, none will escape,,,Christ will have returned also to reclame the world... then after that will come the era of peace 1000 years

will any of us survive whats coming ?? ummm i dunno answer to that one! ahha but it does make yu stop sometimes thinking of this stuff and wonder about all these pensions and stuff hahah dont look like many under 50's will see theirs!

newmug · 02-03-2011 05:10PM

The only pension I'm worried about is the one in the next world!

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and the Holy Ghost, as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

Baggio1 · 02-03-2011 05:14PM

fair point in which case i'm screwed!

then again have to admit the concept of pure peace and people walkin round forever singing psalms really cheeses me off heaven!,, i dont wanna end up with ol' hornhead thats a given! ahah - but man heaven does sound realllyyyy boring what about my drums!? and my horse racing! and my wine!! just walkin round singing hyms,,nooooooooo it cant be!!!!!!!!!!

hahhaha sorry folks i cant control the humour sometimes hah

Keylem · 02-03-2011 05:24PM

Not everyone will be converted after the 'Illumination', some will still go on they're merry way into oblivion - sure didn't they laugh at Noah when he was builing the ark!

RGDATA! · 02-03-2011 05:29PM

What happens the likes of me who doesn't believe a word of this?
If there is something like an indisputable clear sign where we see the state of our souls in an instant, three days of darkness etc, I would imagine I might come round to it and realise that there is something up there after all - will that be too late for my salvation?
Why wouldn't God have performed a clear demonstration like this 50 years ago say and prevented all the bloodshed in the interim? (I suppose I shouldn't really be questioning him but the thought did occur)

Keylem · 02-03-2011 05:35PM

RGDATA! wrote: »

What happens the likes of me who doesn't believe a word of this?
If there is something like an indisputable clear sign where we see the state of our souls in an instant, three days of darkness etc, I would imagine I might come round to it and realise that there is something up there after all - will that be too late for my salvation?
Why wouldn't God have performed a clear demonstration like this 50 years ago say and prevented all the bloodshed in the interim? (I suppose I shouldn't really be questioning him but the thought did occur)

Free will!

The whole point of the 'Warning' is to Illumine mankind, and so save souls. If we continue to dismiss the warning, then the chastisment will be inevitable!

I'm currently reading this book! Link

RGDATA! · 02-03-2011 05:58PM

Keylem wrote: »

Free will!

The whole point of the 'Warning' is to Illumine mankind, and so save souls. If we continue to dismiss the warning, then the chastisment will be inevitable!

I'm currently reading this book! Link

don't understand the argument since after the 'warning' free will will go out the window for the likes of me anyway. I'll be playing the percentages.

newmug · 02-03-2011 06:01PM

RGDATA! wrote: »

don't understand the argument since after the 'warning' free will will go out the window for the likes of me anyway. I'll be playing the percentages.

What do you mean free will will go out the window? You will still have free will!

RGDATA! · 02-03-2011 06:17PM

newmug wrote: »

What do you mean free will will go out the window? You will still have free will!

Ok, I accept that but faced with a clear, unambiguous demonstration that there is a God and I do have an immortal soul, then to me there would be no choice but to accept this, start to pray and repent for my sins etc. I'm hardly going to use my free will to choose eternity in damnation am I?

Donatello · 02-03-2011 06:26PM

Keylem wrote: »

I've had a few moments of anguish also, and helplessness, but I've had moments of happiness and joy too!

There's always the little moments of rainbow/clear sky consolation. As for the rest, it's a big (spiritual) contract!

Keylem · 02-03-2011 06:47PM

Donatello wrote: »

There's always the little moments of rainbow/clear sky consolation. As for the rest, it's a big (spiritual) contract!

Always a sunny sky after the sacrament of reconciliation!

rockbeer · 02-03-2011 09:31PM

Do any of you Christians, when looking into your souls and seeing such unmitigated wretchedness, ever reflect on how much better a job god could have made of designing you, had he so desired?

Just wondering.

Illumination of Conscience

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