Martin challenges Adams over IRA

I hope it backfires on the yellow bellied pathetic idiot.Poor sad attempts to big himself up out of fear of the growing popularity of Sinn Féin.
Letter to Bertie back in 2005
A Thaoisigh,

I am writing to you to refute in the strongest possible terms the allegation you made that the Sinn Fein leadership had prior knowledge of the Northern Bank robbery and to express my deep concern at this ill-founded comment and the damage that it has caused to our working relationship and to the process. As you know I value and have acknowledged your significant contribution to the peace process. During the negotiations leading to the Good Friday Agreement in 1998 and in the years since you have played a leadership role in the collective endeavour of sustaining and pushing forward the peace process. Of course, there have been differences between us. That is the nature of a process like this. For your part the Irish government has been concerned at times over Sinn Féin’s attitude to issues. And in Sinn Fein’s view the Irish government has not always behaved as an equal partner in its dealings with the British government. But until recently both the government and the Sinn Féin leadership have not allowed these differences to upset the imperative and the primacy of the search for peace in our country.

Your decision to attack Sinn Féin and your allegation that our leadership was aware in advance of the Northern Bank robbery has put a huge question mark over this. As you know Sinn Fein’s peace strategy is based in part on Irish nationalist and republican parties working with the Irish government to advance the peace process and its promise of fundamental constitutional and political change, of an all-Ireland framework and of equality and human rights for all citizens. You have acknowledged how Sinn Féin has worked closely with the Irish government to advance this agenda. Whatever political differences there are between the Sinn Féin leadership and the Irish government we have never misled you or acted in bad faith with you, your Ministers or government officials. Such an approach would be entirely contradictory and counter-productive. It would completely under mine our peace strategy - a strategy which Sinn Féin is totally committed to and have invested so much in.

The Sinn Féin leadership, and Martin McGuinness and I had no prior knowledge of the Northern Bank robbery. When remarks attributed to you saying you thought we had such knowledge appeared in the print media last Friday I phoned Michael Collins and asked him to convey my concerns about this matter to you. I told him I did this more in disappointment than anger. I asked for a meeting with you, not least because I believed that if you had such concerns then they should have been put directly to us.
The political fallout from the recrimination and accusations surrounding the bank robbery has clearly compounded the difficulties in the process following the DUP refusal to come on board in December. In addition to this your specific accusations against the Sinn Fein leadership are enormously damaging to the working relationship between us and are undermining efforts to try and secure the comprehensive deal, which we are all working towards. I am writing to you to ask that you address my concerns as a matter of urgency. I am still waiting for a response to our request for a meeting and the phone call to discuss these matters did not happen. These matters are too serious. They need to be dealt with as a matter of urgency.

Bunch of chickens who kiss EU and bankers butts and each others,and pee all over the Irish people.
Pity people werent so brainwashed and remember those whiter than white who are making the accusations lied for how long about the banking crisis and buried their heads in the sand.:rolleyes:
And the attacks are feeble and nothing more than scaremongering and causing a imbalance in our country yet again.

Any of those political parties who quip out accusations such as these in the middle of an election are nothing more than pathetic and sad.
Not a single ounce of proof.Funny all those who constantly say proof links blah blah and so quick to jump on bandwagon because it suits them for their own agenda and prejudice now have no proof.Barr the words of politicians who lied to the whole country in favour of bankers and foreign investors over the good of the Irish people,the ones who watched the health service fall into disarray and watched people die and knew that Irish people were going to lose their jobs.And these are the people you are voting for and listening to?
All these accusation based on this one thing( Bertie Ahern was convinced?????????????????????????????) He was the biggest liar of them all)

In a joint statement this morning, Mr Adams and Mr McGuinness rejected accusations that they knew the robbery was going to take place.

“We both absolutely rejected these unfounded allegations at the time and do so again today. We publicly and privately challenged Bertie Ahern to produce evidence to support his allegations. He didn’t. We told him they were groundless and untrue," it said. "It was and is our view that this had more to do with the electoral rivalries between Sinn Féin and Fianna Fáil".

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/1213/breaking13.html

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/wikileaks-gerry-adams-denies-ira-and-bank-robbery-claims-2459019.html

Gerry Adams has denied all allegations he was an IRA leader and denied he had any Knowledge of the bank robbery.
And the Irish government said they had solid proof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where is the proof??????????????????????????????? Come on prove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Later Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams would state that the operation was "not authorised by the Army Council, but authorised at a lower level by an authorised person".[4][8] Initially, the killing was denounced by the leadership of Sinn Féin, but later the party lobbied for the early release of McCabe's killers under the terms of the Belfast Agreement.[8] In 2005, the prisoners stated that they did not want their release "to be part of any further negotiations with the Irish government."[9]


Seriously something wrong with that picture.

caseyann wrote: »

I hope it backfires on the yellow bellied pathetic idiot.Poor sad attempts to big himself up out of fear of the growing popularity of Sinn Féin.

So, to summarise your post, Gerry Adams could not possibly have known about the Northern Bank robbery (and possibly IRA murders etc?) because Fianna Fail made a total balls of the economy and financial system?

Monty Burnz wrote: »

So, to summarise your post, Gerry Adams could not possibly have known about the Northern Bank robbery (and possibly IRA murders etc?) because Fianna Fail made a total balls of the economy and financial system?

You know that is not what i am saying,and stop editing my post out to suit your own agenda
So try it on with someone else.
Running scared perhaps i am right and Sinn Féin have more of a backing than you and others would like so start all this rubbish.
Where is the proof why hasn't he been brought to court,why hasnt he been charged,why hasnt it been publicly printed this so called proof?
Because there is none.

I hope he does sue them and the family of jean Mc conville.
I would imagine he didnt want to drag them through the courts so not to upset them anymore and not look like a scum bag for doing that to them.
But by him not dragging them through the courts and proving himself innocent he is only giving them ammunition.
He should sue them all bunch of wasters.

caseyann wrote: »

Where is the proof why hasn't he been brought to court,why hasnt he been charged,why hasnt it been publicly printed this so called proof?
Because there is none.

Bertie Ahern has never been charged with anything either. Therefore Bertie Ahern is squeaky clean and never did anything wrong. :rolleyes:

Monty Burnz wrote: »

He isn't in a position to threaten his old friend and IRA hero Brendan Hughes, who I believe stated publically that Adams ordered the death of Mrs. McConville.

Where did he publically say that? And you are going to take the word of someone who perhaps didnt want to make peace and was pissed off they did?Or the man who fought long and hard and saw it through?
Let me think i pick the second.;)

In 2000, he criticised the Sinn Féin leadership for allowing building firms in west Belfast to pay low wages to former prisoners and stated his belief that the republican leadership had sold out on their ideals in order to achieve peace in Northern Ireland.

Monty Burnz wrote: »

He isn't in a position to threaten his old friend and IRA hero Brendan Hughes, who I believe stated publically that Adams ordered the death of Mrs. McConville.

interesting to see unionists/ fianna failures/ using the words of a dead dissident republican to attack adams , ogh the irony

danbohan wrote: »

interesting to see unionists/ fianna failures/ using the words of a dead dissident republican to attack adams , ogh the irony

Who also you might add wasnt in favour of Sinn Féin's political change for peace.:p

sparkling sea wrote: »

Isn't every point made in an election made to try and sway votes?

Any one can threaten to sue - hold this page.

And yet it would appear people don't beleive him, I wonder why?

Still if everyone holds him the esteem you do he will do very will in the elections, as will his party. Only time will tell

Because people are so full of media hype and brain washed.Its like a girl who went out with this guy and she wouldnt sleep with him and because he doesnt like that ,he goes out and says to everyone else she is a whore.Then everyone starts calling her a whore.Doesnt make it true.So many different examples could be used to describe why people dont believe it.
Another thing alot Irish have a thing for swallowing everything they hear rather than getting the proof first and then dealing with it.
I remember once i was talking to a guy i know who is younger than me.The neighbour saw me talking to him and told everyone where i lived i was with him.Before i knew it i had people giving me dirty looks and whispering behind my back.Until i found out why.
Twitching curtains mentality.
Same thing.