anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

phantom_lord · 15-02-2011 09:38PM

Are you not embarrassed to be voting for this man?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UoGl78MzWY

Wolfe Tone · 15-02-2011 09:40PM

No, I think he is a great politician and a decent fella to boot.

KELTICKNIGHTT · 15-02-2011 09:42PM

bergkamp10 wrote: »

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

oi sonny, who are you calling certain types? Me? Care to elaborate on what type i am? I thought one of the charter fundamental rules was attack the post not the poster. You'd wanna watch out for those moderators. though you seem to like yellow/red cards my non-statistic using young fellow

i do believe:D i was talking about sf supporters,maybe you should read again:D

phantom_lord · 15-02-2011 09:43PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

No, I think he is a great politician and a decent fella to boot.

Says it all really.

KELTICKNIGHTT · 15-02-2011 09:44PM

paul71 wrote: »

So you have decided to vote SF, can you please explain how we maintain public spending at 2010 levels, drop the USC, finance a €40,000,000,000 spending gap while refusing to take EU and IMF loans.

Because Gerry cant.

you wont get a straight answer from sf ,no more than you will from sf supporter
we saw how gerry ads didnt answer the questions last nite,just some sf gibberish

pugw · 15-02-2011 09:45PM

Micheál Martins attack on Gerry Adams "how dare you talk about fraud among politicians and among people down here in the republic" This comment from the leader of FF the supposedly "Republican Party". The tone of his attack suggest that he doesnt regard Gerry to be as Irish as the rest of us, and that the partioned 6 northern counties as being a foreign country! Makes me laugh. Hopefully people will finally see FF for what they are! Not that i'm raving mad about SF either

paul71 · 15-02-2011 09:46PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Oh we know how politics works all right, the great thing about it is that we can vote for who we want to, no matter what others will try to say, or how they try to label us.

Of course you can vote for anyone you want. Thereafter you must live with the consequence, how will you get your wages paid if you have no bank account after idiot Gerry has closed all the banks?

KELTICKNIGHTT · 15-02-2011 09:46PM

KIERAN1 wrote: »

Sinn Féin economic policies are not likened by the the main political parties. Mainly due to the fact, their economic policies in essence do care more about the rights of the ordinary Irish citizen, than protecting until ad-nauseum Irish banks and Europeans banks, which have done nothing since 2008, but show a complete lack of respect for every Irish Citizen in this country.

Our economic woes, will not be fixed by the FG party, like somehow in this bizarre universe we live in, by Sinn Fein claiming we should not burden the Irish Taxpayer with repaying large "Private" debts belonging to people that in large part do not even live in this country, that this would be viewed by the main political parties in Ireland like/ FF and FG and Labour as fantasy policies, well is very funny at least to me, the fact is Sinn Fein were not in office during this financial mess that started in 2008 and probably much further back then that, FF were in fact holding power in 2010, and this state ran out of cash to fund itself for the future in 2010 on their watch, well that to me says alot about their economic knowledge and cleverness, when you cause the very country you've been representing to run out of cash to keep public services running!

Ireland is just a small piece in the bigger jigsaw puzzle, that would be Europe. The Euro currency is going to collapse it unavoidable, not a prediction as all, as economic situations do clearly show, that the debts of nations like Spain and Italy, and the unwillingness of France and Germany to bail them out, will cause the fall of the Euro. I only bring this to attention of people reading this, as the Euro crisis, and our Irish banking crisis are very much linked, as one of the reasons we even got bailed out in the first place was to protect the Euro from falling in 2010!

sf dont have policys,sf dont have solutions,
sf cant even explain where they will get the 16 billions too run the country and 50 billion as well,there leader couldnt even tell anyone how,just more sf gibberish

Aoifepia · 15-02-2011 09:47PM

Don't agree at all. At the moment, even with things as bad as they are, we have the highest social welfare rate in Europe and that certainly wasn't with SF in power. One thing Ireland does is look after the poor.

KELTICKNIGHTT · 15-02-2011 09:48PM

pugw wrote: »

Micheál Martins attack on Gerry Adams "how dare you talk about fraud among politicians and among people down here in the republic" This comment from the leader of FF the supposedly "Republican Party". The tone of his attack suggest that he doesnt regard Gerry to be as Irish as the rest of us, and that the partioned 6 northern counties as being a foreign country! Makes me laugh. Hopefully people will finally see FF for what they are! Not that i'm raving mad about SF either

i have too laugh at these comments ,specialy when you try too twist them ,normal sf stuff

Bigmd · 15-02-2011 09:48PM

Sinn fein are doing a good job in government in the north and they have some excellent people standing, i say give them a chance;)

KELTICKNIGHTT · 15-02-2011 09:54PM

phantom_lord wrote: »

Are you not embarrassed to be voting for this man?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UoGl78MzWY

shows alot,he doent even know vat rate in ireland,hes about as sad a leader as he was last night,he was like a broken record,repeating same lines over and over

colly10 · 15-02-2011 09:55PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

No, I think he is a great politician and a decent fella to boot.

So he's a nice lad, you think he'll help the poor.
The problem is that if you trust a guy who doesn't even know the current vat rate to turn around this country's economic problems, we'll all be poor pretty soon.
At least your saying your voting for him cause you like him rather saying your voting for him because he's going to turn the country around with his magical economics like some

pugw · 15-02-2011 09:55PM

@ KELTICKNIGHTT

I'll be voting FG kid so dont try and make a generalisation like that! I'm just highlighting the arrogance of what martin said when they claim to be a republican party!

puffdragon · 15-02-2011 09:55PM

This thread's gone a wee bit toxic, I think the FF IT's have moved from spamming phones to thread slaying!!

KELTICKNIGHTT · 15-02-2011 09:56PM

colly10 wrote: »

So he's a nice lad, you think he'll help the poor.
The problem is that if you trust a guy who doesn't even know the current vat rate to turn around this country's economic problems, we'll all be poor pretty soon.
At least your saying your voting for him cause you like him rather saying your voting for him because he's going to turn the country around with his magical economics like some

these sf supporters are not too worried how gerry and sf gang would help ireland as it very clear they dont know how too,just want votes from people who know no better

KELTICKNIGHTT · 15-02-2011 09:57PM

puffdragon wrote: »

This thread's gone a wee bit toxic, I think the FF IT's have moved from spamming phones to thread slaying!!

like sf boyos i say

phantom_lord · 15-02-2011 09:58PM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

these sf supporters are not too worried how gerry and sf gang would help ireland as it very clear they dont know how too,just want votes from people who know no better

Pretty clear from this thread that none of them are voting for SF for any rational or defensible reasons.

puffdragon · 15-02-2011 09:59PM

phantom_lord wrote: »

Also it's pretty laughable that SF are saying they'll get rid of the IMF or renegotiate the deal. Every country in the world borrows at the same rate from the IMF and it's about a third of the rate our bonds were trading at on the international market. It's the equivalent of turning down a bank loan and going around to the loan shark around the corner.

You might think about not borrowing that money at all !!

KELTICKNIGHTT · 15-02-2011 10:01PM

pugw wrote: »

@ KELTICKNIGHTT

I'll be voting FG kid so dont try and make a generalisation like that! I'm just highlighting the arrogance of what martin said when they claim to be a republican party!

all party's are repubilican ,looking at last nights debate,when gormely asked why not all party's get together for 3 years for sake of country,put there politics behind them and put country and people first
did any of leaders say anything,no,they changed the subject,which say it all,all in it for there pockets,,sf couldnt even say how they would fund the country first fot 16 billion and then 50 billion,gerry,just went on a rant per normal,

phantom_lord · 15-02-2011 10:02PM

puffdragon wrote: »

You might think about not borrowing that money at all !!

How do you plan on fixing the deficit?

KELTICKNIGHTT · 15-02-2011 10:05PM

phantom_lord wrote: »

Pretty clear from this thread that none of them are voting for SF for any rational or defensible reasons.

very true,i asked the question several times too sf supporter here and they all a void giving a answer,where they getting the 15 billion and 50 billion,they jst wait for another poster too say something else and a void giving a answer,maybe they got quoe from there leader gerry

KELTICKNIGHTT · 15-02-2011 10:07PM

puffdragon wrote: »

You might think about not borrowing that money at all !!

how will you fund running the country,where will you get 50 billion and 16 billion too run services,tax take wont do it,theres only less than 5 billion in pension fund ????????????????????????????

phantom_lord · 15-02-2011 10:07PM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

very true,i asked the question several times too sf supporter here and they all a void giving a answer,where they getting the 15 billion and 50 billion,they jst wait for another poster too say something else and a void giving a answer,maybe they got quoe from there leader gerry

If the leader of the party at a national debate couldn't even attempt to answer the question I guess it's unlikely their supporters could either.

pugw · 15-02-2011 10:07PM

And what about Martin making committments to reform the political system and involve industry experts who are not elected! (a good idea in my opinion) Why didnt thew do this any time over the last 14 years or even at the least when the financial crisis came upon us! I wouldnt blame any of the other 3 from not wanting to form a unity government with either the greens or FF cause they have been proven to be useless! The country is better off witout them!

puffdragon · 15-02-2011 10:09PM

https://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Ireland-to-borrow-50-billion-from-the-Federal-Reserve

KELTICKNIGHTT · 15-02-2011 10:09PM

phantom_lord wrote: »

If the leader of the party at a national debate couldn't even attempt to answer the question I guess it's unlikely their supporters could either.

very true,wonder do the sf supporter know the vat rate ,as there leader didnt,if they do,,maybe they should tell him for future reference:D
thought that was the funniness thing yet from a leader of a party in election

KELTICKNIGHTT · 15-02-2011 10:12PM

puffdragon wrote: »

https://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Ireland-to-borrow-50-billion-from-the-Federal-Reserve

maybe answer question,as the sf leader couldnt,i take it you cant too

KELTICKNIGHTT · 15-02-2011 10:14PM

pugw wrote: »

And what about Martin making committments to reform the political system and involve industry experts who are not elected! (a good idea in my opinion) Why didnt thew do this any time over the last 14 years or even at the least when the financial crisis came upon us! I wouldnt blame any of the other 3 from not wanting to form a unity government with either the greens or FF cause they have been proven to be useless! The country is better off witout them!

this country will get promises from all party s ,the thing is after the election ,and may see differently ,always happens that way

KIERAN1 · 15-02-2011 10:14PM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

sf dont have policys,sf dont have solutions,
sf cant even explain where they will get the 16 billions too run the country and 50 billion as well,there leader couldnt even tell anyone how,just more sf gibberish

I'm not Sinn Fein Supporter firstly, but I don't see how you could claim the economic policy we have now, is far better than the Sinn Fein economic policy.

Their saying "default" now while we have a chance to repair the country, the fact that is not been mentioned here, is the percentage interest rate on the bail out can't be payed ever, as we don't have enough Irish citizens in this country to pay the bloody thing. So default is going to happen anyway.

I was thinking voting for them in this election have not previously done so!

anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

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