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The Miseducation of Jimbo Slice

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭Will Heffernan


    I can't believe no footage has surfaced of that massive right hand you nailed me with....or that stiff left that split my lips open.

    You could do a Paris Hilton and make that pay per view...you'd make a killing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    I can't believe no footage has surfaced of that massive right hand you nailed me with....or that stiff left that split my lips open.

    You could do a Paris Hilton and make that pay per view...you'd make a killing.

    Ha it’s now at the stage where I don’t know if you’re taking the p!ss or not. I haven’t even had a chance to watch the sparring back on my laptop because I left the frickin cable in the gym last night.

    I replayed that jab-jab-right combo about 10 times tho. Small victories eh?

    Is being in close relatively “safe” insofar as the guy’s not really gonna have a chance to get proper shots off? Obviously like I can’t attack from there, but I’m not gonna get KTFO’d either? I got in close a few times and just paniced and tried to cover up cos I was convinced I was about to get smashed, but thinking about it now, it seems like it’s not the worst position to be in?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭Will Heffernan


    Hanley wrote: »
    Ha it’s now at the stage where I don’t know if you’re taking the p!ss or not.
    I am taking the piss...you should always assume I am unless I tell you other wise.
    I haven’t even had a chance to watch the sparring back on my laptop because I left the frickin cable in the gym last night.
    I was hoping you'd have your highlights package up by now...have you chosen your music yet?
    I replayed that jab-jab-right combo about 10 times tho. Small victories eh?
    That's a good thing to do.
    Is being in close relatively “safe” insofar as the guy’s not really gonna have a chance to get proper shots off?
    Yes and No. Yes, if you know what you are doing but no, if it's you that we are talking about. You've heaps to do...last night was more for conditioning than anything else. I'm not the person to talk to about technique...Barry and Paddy will guide you there. Work out what is best for you and how you should implement it.
    Obviously like I can’t attack from there, but I’m not gonna get KTFO’d either? I got in close a few times and just paniced and tried to cover up cos I was convinced I was about to get smashed, but thinking about it now, it seems like it’s not the worst position to be in?
    It was a bad position because at all times last night you were about 5 seconds from getting KTFO...depending on how fast you could run and how quickly I could catch you :)

    That is understandable though. You are just starting out you've got great coaches and I am always happy to let you practice what they teach you on me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    I am taking the piss...you should always assume I am unless I tell you other wise.
    But if you’re always taking the piss, and then tell me you’re not taking the piss, does that mean you’re still taking the piss?!
    I was hoping you'd have your highlights package up by now...have you chosen your music yet?
    I’m thinking something like sexual healing.
    That's a good thing to do.
    Out of everything I came out with yesterday it seemed to be the most consistently effective. I tried to do the whole left upper cut, straight right combo too but it wasn’t really working. Should I just get like 3 or 4 combos to work on that I can just bust out without thinking about?
    Yes and No. Yes, if you know what you are doing but no, if it's you that we are talking about. You've heaps to do...last night was more for conditioning than anything else. I'm not the person to talk to about technique...Barry and Paddy will guide you there. Work out what is best for you and how you should implement it.
    Yeah well I kinda figured I wasn’t ready to jump into a cage just yet! The conditioning aspect of it was a f*cking killer. I can’t believe how tough it was. I wanted to get sick at times. And not just cos of your smell.
    It was a bad position because at all times last night you were about 5 seconds from getting KTFO...depending on how fast you could run and how quickly I could catch you
    The same coulda been said for being outside, inside or at perfect range tho really eh?
    That is understandable though. You are just starting out you've got great coaches and I am always happy to let you practice what they teach you on me.
    Heh…. You do realize you’ve opened the door to me bugging you about sparring almost every night now yah?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭Will Heffernan


    Hanley wrote: »
    But if you’re always taking the piss, and then tell me you’re not taking the piss, does that mean you’re still taking the piss?!
    Yes.
    I’m thinking something like sexual healing.
    Has to be on the UFC Top 40 charts.
    Out of everything I came out with yesterday it seemed to be the most consistently effective.
    Jabbing and punching is always effective.
    I tried to do the whole left upper cut,
    I noticed that...some of them didn't miss by more than a metre.
    straight right combo too but it wasn’t really working.
    Like your leg kicks...you need to set that up.
    Should I just get like 3 or 4 combos to work on that I can just bust out without thinking about?
    That'd work.
    Yeah well I kinda figured I wasn’t ready to jump into a cage just yet!
    There'll be a time for that...Barry will let you know when you are ready for that.
    The conditioning aspect of it was a f*cking killer.
    If you want I'll give you a round at full pace? I don't mean beating the **** out of you. I will still tip and tap away but will do it at my pace. Give you an idea of what you have to look forward to.
    I can’t believe how tough it was.
    That was the equivalent of a Muay Thai walk.
    I wanted to get sick at times. And not just cos of your smell.
    You are too tense. When you learn to relax more it will get easier.

    The same coulda been said for being outside, inside or at perfect range tho really eh?
    Heh…. You do realize you’ve opened the door to me bugging you about sparring almost every night now yah?
    I'm fine with that. I wanted to test my wrist and see how it was clinching...and it seemed fine touch wood (and yes, if you want to be completely obvious you can insert a touching wood joke here).

    I like sparring so happy to do it any time you have the time.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<Oh god damn...>>

    Friday

    IP Warm Up - 1 round

    Conditioning
    3 x3 minute rounds of pad work w/ Liam

    Strength

    Power Cleans:
    60kg 2x3
    80k x2
    90kg x2
    100kg x2
    110kg x1
    115kg x1
    118kg 3x1

    Neutral Grip Pull Ups:
    bodyweight 5x10

    Wasn't feeling great for any of that. Pad work was alright. Bit better rhythm anyway.

    PC's were rubbish. Just wasn't happening.

    Worked on forcing full extension with the pull ups. My shoulders don't particularly like that.

    Oh and then something else cool happened.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<If I told you...>>

    Conditioning

    Edge: Clontarf Strongman Day

    1 - Prowler Suicides
    2 - Backward sled drags
    3 - Arm over arm rope pull & fireman carry
    4 - Farmers walk and tornado ball smashes
    5 - Tug of war

    Prowler suicides f*cking sucked. They were done on grass. High handle out, low back.

    The backward sled drag coming off it with my quads already cramping was no fun.

    The arm over arm pull was handy, as was the farmers walk block.

    Happy out to win the tug of war. I spent a lot of the time anchoring just sitting back and waiting for a chance to start a heave once there was som slack on the rope...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<...would you...>>

    Second half of today's training in IP....

    Conditioning

    10 KB swings
    5 KB presses per arm
    20m of bounding
    11 rounds in 15 minutes

    Muay Thai

    2x 3 minute rounds of clinching
    3x 3 minute rounds of sparring w/ 1 minute rest
    *5 minute break*
    2x 3 minute rounds of sparring w/ 1 minute rest
    *5 minute break*
    1x 3 minute round of sparring

    So yah better performance outta me today. Decided not to KO Will this time. Decided not to hit him at all really. Jabbing was better I think. Got a couple of nice body shots.

    REALLY like the jab, jab, kick, right combo. Same story with jab, jab, right.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<Oh god damn...>>

    New IP Warm Up - 1 round

    Strength

    Trap Bar Deads (no belt):
    70kg x8
    120kg x8
    170kg x5
    190kg x5
    200kg x5
    210kg x5

    BJJ
    -warm up

    Butterfly guard drills
    -stepping over towards the head and rotating around, control the leg, hip bump and elvis step
    -as above with ankle held
    -squatting down w/ toes pointed out and pushing one knee to the mat, pushing the other leg to follow and going for side control

    Rolling - Think I did 5x 5 minute rounds

    -First roll w/ Andy, got fairly pwn'd
    -Second w/ TJ and did a bit better, tried a few sweeps with him in mount but like that was obviously never gonna happen with someone his quality. moved him about a bit tho :) Started grabbing his wrist, or underhooking, or trying to at least before attempting the sweep again, but he was still able to prevent. The other take away there was to avoid pushing on th shoulders in mount nd attack the hips instead.
    -Rolled w/ Rowan next I think, and got arm barred 2x in a row. Got hip bump swept about 70x and generally just sat in guard not knowing what to do.
    -Tom was up arfter, aka "the destroyer" ;) I like rolling with him cos he makes **** difficult. There was one sweep towards the end where I basically rolled him onto his head... NO idea how I got him there but I'm starting to try sweep from different positions now. Kind of understanding how to plan my leg and drive off it to get dudes moving about
    -Last roll w/ Brian. Got a really nice sweep from guard to mount and went to an americana for the tap.

    Had a chat with Barry about what to do from mount as well and basically the pass he showed me went as follows:
    -right hand on belly button ramming it up into the ribs
    -left hand on hips
    -elbows inside, or putting pressure one the legs
    -lock the guy's hip in with your right knee so he can't move about
    -step back and around with the left leg to break guard as you ram your elbow in
    -pass to side control on the left

    Obvs opposite side works too.

    Was pretty smashed during all the rolls from working too hard and trying to muscle outta stuff.

    Dublin open on Feb 20th... Munster open some time in March... Gonna put in some serious mat time between now and then. Can't wait!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Getting thrown onto my head was fun, good work..keep fighting when you're mounted no matter how tired you are :D

    I make **** difficult because in competition you'll be rolling with big guys, so dealing with that heavy pressure from me and also being more technical (ie not beasting stuff) will make you much better in the long run.

    One little thing: You dont sweep when someone has you mounted, you escape.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Killme00 wrote: »
    Getting thrown onto my head was fun, good work..keep fighting when you're mounted no matter how tired you are :D

    Glad you enjoyed it. I was trying to "escape" from mount like that all night!
    I make **** difficult because in competition you'll be rolling with big guys, so dealing with that heavy pressure from me and also being more technical (ie not beasting stuff) will make you much better in the long run.

    One little thing: You dont sweep when someone has you mounted, you escape.

    Haha I'm not complaining about you making it difficult. It's fricking exhausting rolling with ya. Looking forward to competing now.

    And no, it's definitely a sweep when I do it. I said it on the internet, so it must be true :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<You know....>>

    New IP Warm Up - 1 round

    Muay Thai - 1 hour
    -warm up
    -front kick w/ left leg
    -front kick w/ right leg
    -keeping our "square" using kicks to make space

    Not getting a good hip pop... it should be like a jab... left kick/right arm covers face... right kick/left arm covers face... throw down the same side hand as you strike...

    I need to develop a good comfortable base to work form... movement... and simple combos...

    Not a f*cking tonne of work to do at all or anything.

    Strength

    DB Bench:
    30kg 'bells x8
    40kg 'bells x8
    45kg 'bells 5x5

    Front Squat:
    60kg x8
    90kg x3
    110kg x2
    120kg x2
    130kg x2
    140kg 3x2

    Neutral Grip Pull Ups:
    bodyweight 3x12

    Well that was sh!te. Felt about as good as a recovering heroin addict today. Just wasn't on.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<Acting real nice...>>

    BJJ - 80ish minutes of warm up and drilling, 45 (??) minutes of guard passing

    -warm up of jogging, tumbles, sit thrus, shrimping and head butting Tom in the balls

    Drilling Half Guard Passes
    -The "twist"
    -starting with underhook from the guy on the bottom, reach across, grab pants and twisting away and getting armpit onto their tricep and smash knee into hips, frame their knee and work your knee out by walking up the mat
    -same again but with half guard being released and having to swing your leg back to prevent the sweep
    -same again pulling your leg out by grabbing your pants
    -same again faking the kimura to get your elbow inside their body and bringing your elbows up to the head to be in better control
    -flying rolling bad ass high percentage kimura sub from that position

    Rolling/Guard Passing
    -MUCH improved today, in my opinion anyway!
    -got some great tips of Neil re: breaking grip and guard, tried to apply them and was moderately successful
    -got a few nice sweeps, tried a few more and got killed
    -I don't consider Grant's guard passes legit cos he just runs around and confuses me
    -my fingers are REALLY f*cking sore from grabbing gi all night

    A lot of positives to be taken from today anyway I think.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<Gonna lift you...>>

    Striking
    -3x 3 minute rounds of shadow boxing
    -5x 3 minute rounds w/ 45 seconds rest holding pads
    -5x 3 minute rounds w/ 45 seconds rest, gloves on

    That was it... Still can't hit or move for sh!t. Had absolutely NO interest in going training today and had pretty much talked myself out of it before dragging myself out the door. That's about the only meaningful thing I did today tho...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<I need...>>

    FRIDAY

    BJJ w/ Gi

    Passing Z guard
    -forgotten most of this, but the basic of it was to grip under the belt, get elbow/shoulder pressure on the middle of the dude's leg, smash the knees together, grab the knee on the ground, step to the sie and fip the knees over, grab under the tricep, lift and pass

    And loads of stuf about he importance of pressure.

    Rolled as well for a while after that, worked on getting back to guard quite a bit.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<She gotta smile...>>

    IP Warm Up - 2 rounds

    Strength

    TBDL, no belt:
    70kg 2x8
    120kg x3
    170kg x1
    2000kg x1
    220kg x1
    240kg x1
    220kg x3

    Rolling:

    Will wanted to train so I got trapped... pretty much spent the entire time trying to pass his guard and was pretty unsuccessful.

    Re-visted him bump sweeps - breaking posture, opening your guard and reaching to their opposite shoulder as the sit up before sweeping seems to be the key.

    Did another pass where you step between the legs, smash your shin onto the other guy's thigh, work in close from there and go to side control.

    Also grabbing the other guys knees by the gi and just swinging them to the side and passing to side control.

    Will showed me another one he uses where if the guys left arm goes to the mat beside you while you're in guard, ya overhook it, rotate left, get a foot or whatever on their left leg and start creating space from there.

    I've a few things to try out rolling tomorrow anyway :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<Ain't that a kick in the head...>>

    IP Warm Up - 3 rounds

    Shadow Boxing - 20 minutes
    -worked on movement
    -boxed in mirror working 1-2's, jab-right-left hook and jab-fake right-left uppercut-straight right
    -moved in and out of nd around the bags for aaaaaages
    -repeated throwing the combos above

    Strength

    Dumbbell Bench:
    32.5kg 'bells 2x8
    47.5kg 'bells 5x5

    Front Squat:
    60kg 2x8
    100kg x5
    110kg x5
    120kg x5

    Gonna go to 50kg 5x5 next week and then just start adding a rep per session to each set.

    I'd take 140kg x5 on the front squats and be stoked with it at the end of this cycle. It's pathetic when you compare it to my PR, but with all the BJJ and conditioning, and weight loss - I'll happily take it!!

    BJJ - 1 hour warm up and drilling, 5/6x 7 minute rounds

    Drilling - arm bars and triangles from guard
    -****ed if I know what was going on today... will try to get some points
    -guillotine the back of the head and underhook the shoulder
    -pin arm between head and shoulder
    -shrimp out to your side creating an angle, side up that has the arm
    -extend
    -same for triangle, but shrimp more to the side to get create an angle to get your leg out
    -go almost 90 degrees to the guy so you're looking at their ear, arm across throat
    -Barry showed another cool one where you basically just smash one of his wrists to his gut and snake that leg out and go from there

    Rolling
    -I feel better with every roll, more competent like
    -did the cheapest sub ever on dylan - got a high guard, then wrapped my arms under and crushed him, just did it for the craic cos the little brat was too slick to get with anything else
    -had a great roll with Tom, managed to hold mount for a while and get back to guard a good few times as well, then he smashed my onto my back and I self-choked
    -had a really good role with Martin too, he did a serious job in avoiding my everything even tho I had mount for bout 4-5 minutes, tried to kimura and he avoided, multiple times, tried to take back control and he avoided, eventually was WRECKED and needed a rest so went real heavy and took a cheap self choke.
    -Lasted a bit longer with Rowan this time too, avoided his arm bar and hip bump attempts
    -Got mutilated by Neil, as you'd expect.
    -Gotta remember not to try flower sweeps from mount cos it's f*cking stupid, "paint the floor" with my kimura's and get a underhook from half guard and sweep to that side if the opportunity comes up.

    Spent well over 3.5 hours training today... only gonna get 2 sessions in this week, so have to squeeze a lot in.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<Coulda had it all...>>

    The absolute effort of catching up on my log...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Hanley wrote: »
    <<Coulda had it all...>>

    The absolute effort of catching up on my log...

    <<Ridin' Dirty>>








    dunzo.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    TUESDAY:

    Shopping for mum's bday present

    WEDNESDAY:

    Front Squat:
    60kg 2x8
    80kg x5
    100kg x5
    110kg x5
    120kg x5

    BJJ - collar chokes from guard
    -grab across and inside the collar up high
    -shift to side, sit up and reach across to upper back/belt on opposite side and grab
    -lie back down and rotate the collar grip wrist to lock in the choke
    -the some fancy gi-faff-about to ezekial choke

    Rolling - 6x 5 minute rounds, only got tapped once, to a face choke courtesy of Rowan. Was a good roll. Very happy with my performance.

    THURSDAY:

    Mum's bday

    FRIDAY - SUNDAY:

    Cork


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<Highway to the dangerzone...>>

    Today...

    Rolling - 2 x3 minute rounds, 8x 5 minute rounds (5 on, 1 off, 5 on, 6 off... repeat)

    After driving from Kinsale, to Celbridge, and then IP... I showed up with just a pair of shorts and the clothes I was wearing. Awkward!!

    Anyway it was a good roll... Picked up some more good tips and more importantly got some additional mat time in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,931 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Jesus, how many nights a week are you training?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Jesus, how many nights a week are you training?

    If I can get Sunday bonus rounds in, every day!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭Barry.Oglesby


    This log has the best grammar of any I've seen. You can tell we went to the same school.

    As a small warning, roll as often as possible but just make sure you're following the map. Think your way through things as much as possible and rather than taking 10 tips or techniques away from a session, take one and make it stick. If everyone could do that then my job would be easier.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    This log has the best grammar of any I've seen. You can tell we went to the same school.

    Did we actually?
    As a small warning, roll as often as possible but just make sure you're following the map. Think your way through things as much as possible and rather than taking 10 tips or techniques away from a session, take one and make it stick. If everyone could do that then my job would be easier.

    What is this map you speak of? Serious question!

    In regards the tips I’m taking away, I’m talking about really simple stuff like;

    -whatever your opponent is trying to do, don’t let him do it
    -getting on your side when mounted and working from there
    -mount>half guard>guard>break their posture
    -guard>half guard>mount/side control

    I’m not even looking for complicated submissions or any of that stuff, literally just survival and getting to dominant positions when the opportunity presents itself. Is that the sort of stuff I should be going after like?

    I’ll try throwing in the odd triangle, choke or key lock if the opportunity presents, but they’re all so shockingly ineffective that they’re fairly useless.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭Barry.Oglesby


    According to Shaun, yes, we did.

    There's no roadmap, only in my head. Basically what I mean is that you're trying to do the right things all the time, be in the right postures in the right positions and keep trying to do the right things all the time.

    BJJ is simple. It only gets complicated when you let it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    According to Shaun, yes, we did.

    There's no roadmap, only in my head. Basically what I mean is that you're trying to do the right things all the time, be in the right postures in the right positions and keep trying to do the right things all the time.

    BJJ is simple. It only gets complicated when you let it.

    So basically I just need to know what's going on in your head? Alright, doesn't sound too bad.

    But yeah... shout at me when I'm in the wrong positions, at the wrong time. You might not want to shout all the time - your voice will suffer if ya do.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    <<Take your shirt off>>

    IP Warm Up - 2 rounds

    Hang Power Cleans:
    50kg x2
    60kg x2
    70kg x2
    80kg x2
    90kg x2
    100kg x1
    105kg 3x1

    Power Cleans:
    60kg x2
    80kg x1
    100kg x1
    110kg x1
    120kg x1

    Hang PCs were good today. Probably not as snappy or extending as well as I'd like, but they were ok.

    PCs - 100, 110 and 120 were done in < 3 minutes cos MT was starting. Cardio yeah? 120kg actually moved easily. Could definitely had gone higher with a better build up and more time.

    Muay Thai

    Tekkers - 60 minutes
    -Clinch work
    -Like pummeling, but instead of an underhook you're holding his elbow
    -try to get both hands on neck/head inside the other dudes arms and pull down and rain knees
    -stay relaxed and just hold the guy
    -if he keeps his elbow tight, pull the opposite way to create space
    -if he gets inside you, keep one arm on back of neck and slide one in above elbow and get your hang across his chin with palm facing to make space

    Pad Work - 8x 2 minute rounds of clinch, 8x 2 minute rounds of striking
    -shadow boxing and push ups, squats and sit ups to warm up
    -loads to take away from the pad work
    -pivot on the foot when kicking
    -with 1,2,3,4 etc move quicker thru punches
    -upper cuts need work
    -my range is all wrong with jabs, connecting too early
    -Paddy did a quick talk thru with me on how to control the ring, basically just come in, get control and make them walk onto my right if I can
    -actually f*Cking hell I duno what else to take from it... just tonnes of sh!t I was doing wrong and things to work on

    Banging hard for 3x 90 second rounds at White Collar Boxing is looking like it might not be too bad...

    Strength

    Dumbbell Bench:
    30kg x8
    40kg x8
    50kg 5x5

    DB benching was solid. I'll try to get sets of 6 next time. Strength's dipped a bit, but not TOO much. Happy out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Hanley wrote: »
    Dumbbell Bench:
    30kg x8
    40kg x8
    50kg 5x5

    That's class.

    Should i be able to do that?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    That's class.

    Should i be able to do that?

    The fact I had to check with ya as to whether you were mocking my pitiful pressing should give you the answer to that.


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