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Report on attitudes to travellers published.

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  • #242
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Jordan Berbatov wrote: »
    If your a traveller then how do you know these words?


    Care to explain this comment please?


  • #243
    Nuvari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭Nuvari


    I too would like to know why.


    Could it be that some peoples stereotypical and limited view of a community is short of the realistic reflection of individuality?


    Please don't be so wary to approach people as people, regardless of the assumed qualities of their origin.


  • #244
    Elevator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭Elevator


    CreepingDeath wrote: »
    The report was written by Fr Michael MacGreil SJ.
    Travellers are very religious, so they're valuable to his weekly collection plates.

    I work in a shop part time and from the age of 7/8 up cannot work out that you can get 3 x .30 cent bars for your .90 cent

    I'd like to know how many of them could even read the damn report?!?


  • #245
    Elevator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭Elevator


    Nuvari wrote: »
    I too would like to know why.


    Could it be that some peoples stereotypical and limited view of a community is short of the realistic reflection of individuality?


    Please don't be so wary to approach people as people, regardless of the assumed qualities of their origin.

    I grew up beside hillside in Galway and believe me I tried to avoid them like the plague but there's no escaping the traveller if he wants trouble and they are also a pain to try talk to also

    99% don't live in the real world imo so let them off!!!


  • #246
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    sligopark wrote: »
    What was it this report stated?

    Did it say they are perhaps an ill understood minority group that are utterly wholesome and lovely and instead active participants in the ressurection of shakepeare in Ireland....

    Nuvari wrote: »
    What a colourful display of hatred and antagonism.

    As a member of the travelling community, do people believe that I as an individual should be judged by the actions of people who have little to nothing to do with me as an individual?

    Have I by birth, lineage and culture had my worth weighted by others?

    Surely the illogical idealism that I as a individual, should be a stereotype harvested by ignorance on both sides of the social divide is something we in our modern understandings should reject?

    Nuvari


    I think Nuvari's response was a satirical and somewhat jocular response to the post immediately prior


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  • #247
    Nuvari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭Nuvari


    Actually no I am a genuine member of the Irish Travelling community.


    Although I prefer the more culturally accurate term of Pavee.


    To assume we are all shop lifting socially distractive individuals does little to help anyone and prolongs an individual bias progression.


    How bright should I shine before I am deemed worthy of acceptance.


    The casual discrimination and illogical assumptions on this thread is shocking and is certainly an aspect of the continuing conflict.


  • #248
    yogy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 164 ✭✭yogy


    There is obviously some decent Pavees out there but they are in a very small minority.

    If they actually displayed any of their original customs and traditions and spent less time robbing and doing dodgy tarmac jobs then they would be much more accepted by society.

    I was out at the Dun Laoghaire World Culture Festival at the weekend and the Pavee's had a stall. It consisted of a few tin pots, an old wagon and then a load of little traveller girls (aged 8-16) dressed in illuminous mini-skirts and bras, (just like they were to weddings) caked in fake tan, dancing provocatively to Rihanna and Beyonce.

    It was one of the most bizarre yet disturbingly comical scenes you could ever see. The mixture of shock, disgust and laughter on everyone's face was priceless!

    But if this is the only type of tradition they have then they are ****ed if they think they should be recognized as an ethnic minority!


  • #249
    sealgaire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭sealgaire


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Care to explain this comment please?


    He means knackers can't read! Duh!

    Now I must point out that I know you were trying to draw the poster out to ban him . ..


  • #250
    sealgaire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭sealgaire


    and this report stating that they are 18 times more likely to be imprisioned . . .
    THEY COMMIT 18 TIMES MORE CRIME ffs

    http://www.thejournal.ie/un-may-ask-ireland-to-consider-ethnic-status-for-travellers-2011-2/


  • #251
    Poor Uncle Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    It's all relative.......


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  • #252
    Dan133269
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Dan133269


    Hank_Jones wrote: »
    I'm trying not to be bad, but I was called for jury duty once and the majority of cases that came before the court involved travellers as the prosecuted.

    Brilliant :D


  • #253
    Max Power1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Why drag this up again?


  • #254
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Deleted User wrote: »
    90% of them are involved in crime. How else would you have a Range Rover while living on the dole?

    and the other 10% are liars:D


  • #255
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »
    It's all relative.......

    Is that an incest joke?


  • #256
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    We'll just leave this here.


This discussion has been closed.
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