Garda Recruitment - Applying to join An Garda Siochana

shakin wrote: »

Thats all good and well, but why should someone get more money than a colleague doing the same job, just because they went to college? Thats hardly fair. I can see why you would be aggrieved if you were expecting it going in and now it might be taken away, but what good is a degree to a regular garda on the beat? SFA i'd imagine.

any idea why it was ever introduced?

The reaon is was introduced was to attract more highly educated candidates to apply for the gardaí.

A more highly educated work force is better for the force overall and will in time lead to more effective leadership within the force.

Also, a number of degrees have a direct relevance with the job, such as law or sociology. (This is without getting into specialised roles such as the GBFI or the IT side of things).

However, given that you only get the extra credit for having a degree before you join the AGS, and not if you attain if whilst working with the Gardaí, I can only assume the reason is for attracting these candidates to the force.

adrian2 wrote: »

I hear that the increment rise for applicants to AGS with degrees is disappearing in the new recruitment when it soes start again, anyone know anything?

Source?

I second that buddy!! Trades are hard work and to complete one shows great ability and effort and we also spend time in college but there is no graditude towards that, So i dont think its very fair for people going to college to get increments and disclude others that also applied themselves in different walks of life who also have a qualifications. To be honest im amazed at the carry on i seen in the college... that being how fridays were like a ghost town because students were out with sick heads and the ones that did come in, it was clear to see they were not going to learn anything on that day! oh and the fact down here tuesday seems to be the new thursday and all the students go out then to! So that really gives 3 good days that students are willing to give there all being monday, tuesday and thursday (saying that monday can be tricky to). Obviously that doesnt apply to all students but i was shocked at the amounts it applied to! So when i read post like the ones above saying the people who go to college deserve the increments, im not saying i disagree im just saying other people that work hard and complete qualifications deserve it to. So dont think of how bad it will be if they take it away think of how look you were (and others who got it) and how unlucky others with qualifications were not to get it.

Geansai wrote: »

The source is the government 4 year plan. P63.

"Additional pay savings will be achieved through an immediate 10% reduction in the pay of all new entrants to the public service leading to a further sustainable reduction in public service pay costs over the medium term. In addition, all new entrants will start on the minimum point of the scale. "

It might be worth your while have a read off it. For anyone who is planning on joining the Gardaí it lays out the present Goverments plan on future employment in the State. It is extremely unlikely that any future Governemtn would change this. Tough decisions have to be made. Why would any Government reserve these decisions only, only to cut somewhere else, and thereby they too will become unpopular.

I already corrected you on this quote some time ago. All new entrants to the Gardai already start on the minimum point of the scale. Everyone starts off on point 1. After two years probabtion you are entitled to extra increments for having a degree. So the increments will not be affected at all.

WilcoOut wrote: »

and 121 were paid 'minus' amounts in their wages last month, such was the amount stopped at source

thats an outrage

What on earth could have put their wages into a minus?

*Edit - nevermind, I just saw the article in the other thread.

Eoiny6 wrote: »

hey does anyone know if a fetac level 4 minor award in security would be ok too join?

Hi Eoiny, welcome to the forum.

Please read through the following threads as they will help you get the most out of this forum:

The Forum Charter should be read first and adhered to.
The FAQ Thread answers alot of questions you may have about applying to join, including your question above.
Garda Recruitment Help will help you to direct your questions to the appropriate thread.





From Garda Website:

EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS:
Candidates must have obtained in the Leaving Certificate:

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o A grade not lower than B3 at Foundation Level or D3 at another level in Mathematics, and
o A qualifying grade in 2 languages, 1 of which must be English or Irish, as follows:
English: a grade not lower that D3 at Ordinary Level
Irish: a grade not lower than C3 at Foundation Level or D3 at another level
Other language: a grade not lower than D3 at Ordinary Level, and
o A grade not lower than D3 at Ordinary Level, in not less than 2 other subjects

Or
The Merit Grade in the Applied Leaving Certificate
Or
Like Grades in another examination, which, in the opinion of the Minister for Justice, Equality & Law Reform, is not of a lower standard than the above.

Eoiny6 wrote: »

i have a C1 in foundation maths and thats below the requirements will that effect my application?

Yes.

A grade not lower than B3 at Foundation Level or D3 at another level in Mathematics

These are the requirements to be eligible to join.
Presuming you posess all the other requirements, you can either go and repeat your leaving cert maths, or choose another career path.

Eoiny6 wrote: »

Thanks for that belle but i have A C1 in foundation mathematics wich is below the standered would that affect my application?

I literally just answered this question. Please read my post above.

Good man Aongus! Knew he wasnt just a pretty face. So thats FG and SF ill be voting for!


ps. Gotta Love Eoiny6 posts above!! Great patience from Blue Belle