HDR photos

NayLa · 27-01-2011 1:15am #1

Hi guys, can anyone recommend a photographer available for shoots who specializes in HDR photos (for fashion) - preferably in Dublin, or at least in Ireland? Any advice would be much appreciated

charybdis · 27-01-2011 1:19am

I don't think you understand the terms or processes involved in what you're describing.

I advise you do some reading on the subjects, and then don't proceed with your current intentions when you realise that nobody specialises (or really even does) this.

humberklog · 27-01-2011 1:26am

charybdis wrote: »

I don't think you understand the terms or processes involved in what you're describing.

I advise you do some reading on the subjects, and then don't proceed with your current intentions when you realise that nobody specialises (or really even does) this.

Auchtung Barry on here does.

charybdis · 27-01-2011 1:26am

humberklog wrote: »

Auchtung Barry on here does.

For fashion?

NayLa · 27-01-2011 1:27am

charybdis wrote: »

I don't think you understand the terms or processes involved in what you're describing.

I advise you do some reading on the subjects, and then don't proceed with your current intentions when you realise that nobody specialises (or really even does) this.

Umm.. okay, that wasn't very friendly but thanks.
To expand on it - my webmaster advised me to get HDR photos of my work - I have no idea about anything that has to do with hdr or professional photography, I just trust my webmaster on this.
Thats the reason I came onto this forum - to get some help.
Thanks again

charybdis · 27-01-2011 1:29am

NayLa wrote: »

Umm.. okay, that wasn't very friendly but thanks.
To expand on it - my webmaster advised me to get HDR photos of my work - I have no idea about anything that has to do with hdr or professional photography, I just trust my webmaster on this.
Thats the reason I came onto this forum - to get some help.
Thanks again

Based on what little I know about your webmaster, I wouldn't trust him.

Thecageyone · 27-01-2011 1:30am

I don't think I've ever seen fashion shots in HDR! If the model blinked or moved even the slightest bit the shot is ruined.

HDR is for the most part, terrible, because people tend to way over do it. Your webmaster is not giving you good advice here.

NayLa · 27-01-2011 1:32am

okay, what about these:
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=gsih&xhr=t&q=hdr+fashion+photography&cp=6&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=693

humberklog · 27-01-2011 1:32am

charybdis wrote: »

For fashion?

Ooops, eh, mabeh?:pac:. I'd say he'd give it a go:pac::pac::pac:.

Sorry OP and Prof. Charybdis I didn't see the brackets.:o

But I bet he would!

charybdis · 27-01-2011 1:36am

NayLa wrote: »

okay, what about these:
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=gsih&xhr=t&q=hdr+fashion+photography&cp=6&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=693

Which of these images do you want your fashion photographs to look like?

humberklog wrote: »

Ooops, eh, mabeh?:pac:. I'd say he'd give it a go:pac::pac::pac:.

Sorry OP and Prof. Charybdis I didn't see the brackets.:o

But I bet he would!

Please, call me Yaffle.

KylieWyley · 27-01-2011 1:36am

OP- HDR, stands for high dynamic range. This style of photography is done by taking multiple shots of the same scene at a number of different exposures (e.g. one underexposed, one correctly exposed and one overexposed) which are then blended together to emphasize everything from the shadows to the highlights.

It isn't usually done with people because even the slightest of movements between taking the differently exposed shots would ruin the effect. It is usually done with static scenes: http://www.google.ie/images?q=hdr%20photography&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=933 (e.g. this google search for 'hdr photography' turns up very few shots of people)

Are you sure your webmaster didn't mean high-definition/high-resolution images of a model?

Thecageyone · 27-01-2011 1:38am

Most of the images in that link look like strobist work rather than HDR, bar the landscapes. And some of them are horrifically over done.

NayLa · 27-01-2011 1:43am

charybdis wrote: »

Which of these images do you want your fashion photographs to look like?

Well I like the first one,
and http://www.cartright.com/blog/category/hdr/
and http://www.photography.ca/blog/2008/12/23/59-hdr-high-dynamic-range-photography-interview-with-joseph-cartright/

NayLa · 27-01-2011 1:44am

@ KylieWyley - Thanks for your reply. She specifically sent me a couple of links to these pictures, she said it is very new and up coming

NayLa · 27-01-2011 1:48am

Thecageyone wrote: »

Most of the images in that link look like strobist work rather than HDR, bar the landscapes. And some of them are horrifically over done.

Well, in fairness if strobist looks that way, I guess I will be happy with that - sorry, don't mean to cause any confusion, should have probably posted the links to the pictures looking for somebody to be able to do it...
Either way would work for me

zerohamster · 27-01-2011 1:50am

It looks interesting enough but as for true HDR it seems unlikely, just the same look by dodging, burning and giving more contrast and vibrance in post processing.

NayLa · 27-01-2011 2:02am

Thanks for all your help guys,

Here are some more links to the pictures I like, if you know anyone, or are able to do it (doesn't matter what way as long as it looks like that at the end) please PM me!!!

http://blog.remygerega.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/before_and_after_band_shoot_sweden_remy_gerega.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3582/3335976268_d250696436.jpg

http://www.ilovephotoblogs.com/amazing-hdr-photography-by-david-hill

http://www.prophotoshow.net/2008/06/18/hdr-portraitswedding-fashion-photography-2nd-edition/

Abelloid · 27-01-2011 10:24am

That all appears to be done in Photoshop, if you have good photos already I'd give them to your designer to process.

OldGoat · 27-01-2011 10:57am

Over the top HDR style images are desirable in fashion images. Loath though some (most?) photographers to the idea of overbaked HDR there are markets for the images and fashion is one of those markets.
From the models point of view she wants images that are going to stand out from her competations photos and the overworked HDResq images will do that for her.
I would imagine that few of the images in the links are true HDR but are rather photoshop tweeks to produce the effect.
A single RAW image can be adjusted for under exposure and over exposure in Lightshop and then along with the correctly exposed copy can be blended and tweeked to produce the desired effect. Hence no worries about the model having to stand still while bracketed shots are being taken.
OP, I think you really need to be searching for someone with photo editing skills - surly thats part of your webdesigners essential toolkit.

NayLa · 27-01-2011 10:59am

Actually I am looking for a photographer for a shoot and picture processing, I don't know anything about photography and would prefer to deal with one person when it comes to it.

bigmanhole · 27-01-2011 2:29pm

Hi Nayla,

Im going to keep this really simple as some people rather than help actually show off the fact they can use big words in my honest opinion.

There are at least two ways to do HDR from a laypersons perspective.

1. Take three pictures of the one thing at different brightnesses or exposure
2. Take one picture and process it three ways at diff brightness or exposures

Option 2 is better if people are involved as that way there will be no movement in the person thus no blurring however its not truly HDR by the scientifice definition but it gives the same result.

Option 1 is better if its a landscape scene as there isnt really much to move if the camera is on a tripod, as the road, fence, mountain etc... are perfectly stationery.

Option 2 can be done by anyone with a DSLR camera and good photoshop skills (computer editing).

Try contacting professional photographers and you will find someone who can help you out

bullpost · 27-01-2011 5:54pm

Looks very like work of Matt Hoyle.

He produces similar look by heavily post-processing his pics.

See http://www.matthoyle.com

JustinOval wrote: »

That all appears to be done in Photoshop, if you have good photos already I'd give them to your designer to process.

eas · 27-01-2011 6:12pm

NayLa wrote: »

Well, in fairness if strobist looks that way, I guess I will be happy with that - sorry, don't mean to cause any confusion,

you're not causing any confusion at all, people on here are just confused, some more than others.

Bigmanhole's advice is pretty good if you ask me.

Borderfox · 27-01-2011 6:20pm

Whatever happened to the customer is always right? If they want HDR they get HDR, simple

Thecageyone · 27-01-2011 6:26pm

NayLa wrote: »

Well, in fairness if strobist looks that way, I guess I will be happy with that - sorry, don't mean to cause any confusion, should have probably posted the links to the pictures looking for somebody to be able to do it...
Either way would work for me

No confusion, I just thought some of the images linked looked more strobe/flash work than HDR. A lot of them probably are just strobist stuff processed to hell. Just another suggestion on how to achieve the look from those images. I can't see many of the model shots being HDR.

I don't know any big words

I'm as new to most of this as Op is.

Original question though, was do we know anyone who specialises in HDR fashion shoots? [not whether or not we like it] I certainly don't know anyone who specialises, I didn't even know they used this method in fashion.

Jimjay · 27-01-2011 6:36pm

It sound like a very interesting project, I am sure that with the correct lighting it might even be possible for a decent camera to take 3 bracketed shots before the model even has time to twitch. A very slight movement could be removed during processing.
I have taken many outdoor hdr shots in lowish light, handheld without any subject movement or ghosting in the processed shot.
As suggested above a single raw shot could produce a good hdr image and also using photomatix tone mapping plugin could produce good results.

Btw those matthoyle shots look great.

bullpost · 27-01-2011 7:00pm

You can read how he does it here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0715332015?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwgoodco-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0715332015&SubscriptionId=1MGPYB6YW3HWK55XCGG2

He takes you through his pp workflow.

Jimjay wrote: »

Btw those matthoyle shots look great.

ThOnda · 27-01-2011 9:43pm

In fairness, it looks like HDR from single RAW image and overdone tonemapping. And I would not call it neither new nor trendy. It is just a technique. Like black and white conversion. Good luck in finding somebody willing to do such work. I could not do that for two reasons - I don't know how to do it and I don't want to learn how to do it. But that is only my personal opinion.

magicbastarder · 27-01-2011 9:56pm

is there a function in photoshop to set every pixel to 50% luminance? surely that's HDR taken to its logical conclusion?

Jimjay · 27-01-2011 11:08pm

I think done correctly and for the correct subject hdr can produce beautiful images. Having never used hdr on people/models I don't have examples in that field but without hdr some detail might not be seen. In one exposure I could not get the leaves hanging down above the road to be viewable. Infact I didnt even realise they were there.

I think your project sounds great and although some people don't like hdr I think you should go for it and be very creative. You can get a very unique website as long as it's not overdone as a lot of people can get carried away with the harsher affects.

Christmas in Funchal, Madeira by JayGriffin, on Flickr

Promac · 27-01-2011 11:19pm

charybdis wrote: »

I don't think you understand the terms or processes involved in what you're describing.

I advise you do some reading on the subjects, and then don't proceed with your current intentions when you realise that nobody specialises (or really even does) this.

If people come asking for help and you can't then don't bother. You make the rest of us look bad with your attitude problem.

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