HDR photos

NayLa

Hi guys, can anyone recommend a photographer available for shoots who specializes in HDR photos (for fashion) - preferably in Dublin, or at least in Ireland? Any advice would be much appreciated

charybdis

I don't think you understand the terms or processes involved in what you're describing.

I advise you do some reading on the subjects, and then don't proceed with your current intentions when you realise that nobody specialises (or really even does) this.

humberklog

charybdis wrote: »

I don't think you understand the terms or processes involved in what you're describing.

I advise you do some reading on the subjects, and then don't proceed with your current intentions when you realise that nobody specialises (or really even does) this.

Auchtung Barry on here does.

charybdis

humberklog wrote: »

Auchtung Barry on here does.

For fashion?

NayLa

charybdis wrote: »

I don't think you understand the terms or processes involved in what you're describing.

I advise you do some reading on the subjects, and then don't proceed with your current intentions when you realise that nobody specialises (or really even does) this.

Umm.. okay, that wasn't very friendly but thanks.
To expand on it - my webmaster advised me to get HDR photos of my work - I have no idea about anything that has to do with hdr or professional photography, I just trust my webmaster on this.
Thats the reason I came onto this forum - to get some help.
Thanks again

charybdis

NayLa wrote: »

Umm.. okay, that wasn't very friendly but thanks.
To expand on it - my webmaster advised me to get HDR photos of my work - I have no idea about anything that has to do with hdr or professional photography, I just trust my webmaster on this.
Thats the reason I came onto this forum - to get some help.
Thanks again

Based on what little I know about your webmaster, I wouldn't trust him.

Thecageyone

I don't think I've ever seen fashion shots in HDR! If the model blinked or moved even the slightest bit the shot is ruined.

HDR is for the most part, terrible, because people tend to way over do it. Your webmaster is not giving you good advice here.

NayLa

okay, what about these:
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=gsih&xhr=t&q=hdr+fashion+photography&cp=6&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=693

humberklog

charybdis wrote: »

For fashion?

Ooops, eh, mabeh?:pac:. I'd say he'd give it a go:pac::pac::pac:.

Sorry OP and Prof. Charybdis I didn't see the brackets.:o

But I bet he would!

charybdis

NayLa wrote: »

okay, what about these:
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=gsih&xhr=t&q=hdr+fashion+photography&cp=6&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=693

Which of these images do you want your fashion photographs to look like?

humberklog wrote: »

Ooops, eh, mabeh?:pac:. I'd say he'd give it a go:pac::pac::pac:.

Sorry OP and Prof. Charybdis I didn't see the brackets.:o

But I bet he would!

Please, call me Yaffle.

KylieWyley

OP- HDR, stands for high dynamic range. This style of photography is done by taking multiple shots of the same scene at a number of different exposures (e.g. one underexposed, one correctly exposed and one overexposed) which are then blended together to emphasize everything from the shadows to the highlights.

It isn't usually done with people because even the slightest of movements between taking the differently exposed shots would ruin the effect. It is usually done with static scenes: http://www.google.ie/images?q=hdr%20photography&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=933 (e.g. this google search for 'hdr photography' turns up very few shots of people)

Are you sure your webmaster didn't mean high-definition/high-resolution images of a model?

Thecageyone

Most of the images in that link look like strobist work rather than HDR, bar the landscapes. And some of them are horrifically over done.

NayLa

charybdis wrote: »

Which of these images do you want your fashion photographs to look like?

Well I like the first one,
and http://www.cartright.com/blog/category/hdr/
and http://www.photography.ca/blog/2008/12/23/59-hdr-high-dynamic-range-photography-interview-with-joseph-cartright/

NayLa

@ KylieWyley - Thanks for your reply. She specifically sent me a couple of links to these pictures, she said it is very new and up coming

NayLa

Thecageyone wrote: »

Most of the images in that link look like strobist work rather than HDR, bar the landscapes. And some of them are horrifically over done.

Well, in fairness if strobist looks that way, I guess I will be happy with that - sorry, don't mean to cause any confusion, should have probably posted the links to the pictures looking for somebody to be able to do it...
Either way would work for me

zerohamster

It looks interesting enough but as for true HDR it seems unlikely, just the same look by dodging, burning and giving more contrast and vibrance in post processing.

NayLa

Thanks for all your help guys,

Here are some more links to the pictures I like, if you know anyone, or are able to do it (doesn't matter what way as long as it looks like that at the end) please PM me!!!

http://blog.remygerega.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/before_and_after_band_shoot_sweden_remy_gerega.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3582/3335976268_d250696436.jpg

http://www.ilovephotoblogs.com/amazing-hdr-photography-by-david-hill

http://www.prophotoshow.net/2008/06/18/hdr-portraitswedding-fashion-photography-2nd-edition/

Abelloid

That all appears to be done in Photoshop, if you have good photos already I'd give them to your designer to process.

OldGoat

Over the top HDR style images are desirable in fashion images. Loath though some (most?) photographers to the idea of overbaked HDR there are markets for the images and fashion is one of those markets.
From the models point of view she wants images that are going to stand out from her competations photos and the overworked HDResq images will do that for her.
I would imagine that few of the images in the links are true HDR but are rather photoshop tweeks to produce the effect.
A single RAW image can be adjusted for under exposure and over exposure in Lightshop and then along with the correctly exposed copy can be blended and tweeked to produce the desired effect. Hence no worries about the model having to stand still while bracketed shots are being taken.
OP, I think you really need to be searching for someone with photo editing skills - surly thats part of your webdesigners essential toolkit.

NayLa

Actually I am looking for a photographer for a shoot and picture processing, I don't know anything about photography and would prefer to deal with one person when it comes to it.

bigmanhole

Hi Nayla,


Im going to keep this really simple as some people rather than help actually show off the fact they can use big words in my honest opinion.

There are at least two ways to do HDR from a laypersons perspective.

1. Take three pictures of the one thing at different brightnesses or exposure
2. Take one picture and process it three ways at diff brightness or exposures

Option 2 is better if people are involved as that way there will be no movement in the person thus no blurring however its not truly HDR by the scientifice definition but it gives the same result.

Option 1 is better if its a landscape scene as there isnt really much to move if the camera is on a tripod, as the road, fence, mountain etc... are perfectly stationery.

Option 2 can be done by anyone with a DSLR camera and good photoshop skills (computer editing).


Try contacting professional photographers and you will find someone who can help you out

bullpost

Looks very like work of Matt Hoyle.

He produces similar look by heavily post-processing his pics.

See http://www.matthoyle.com

JustinOval wrote: »

That all appears to be done in Photoshop, if you have good photos already I'd give them to your designer to process.

eas

NayLa wrote: »

Well, in fairness if strobist looks that way, I guess I will be happy with that - sorry, don't mean to cause any confusion,

you're not causing any confusion at all, people on here are just confused, some more than others.

Bigmanhole's advice is pretty good if you ask me.

Borderfox

Whatever happened to the customer is always right? If they want HDR they get HDR, simple

Thecageyone

NayLa wrote: »

Well, in fairness if strobist looks that way, I guess I will be happy with that - sorry, don't mean to cause any confusion, should have probably posted the links to the pictures looking for somebody to be able to do it...
Either way would work for me

No confusion, I just thought some of the images linked looked more strobe/flash work than HDR. A lot of them probably are just strobist stuff processed to hell. Just another suggestion on how to achieve the look from those images. I can't see many of the model shots being HDR.

I don't know any big words I'm as new to most of this as Op is.

Original question though, was do we know anyone who specialises in HDR fashion shoots? [not whether or not we like it] I certainly don't know anyone who specialises, I didn't even know they used this method in fashion.

Jimjay

It sound like a very interesting project, I am sure that with the correct lighting it might even be possible for a decent camera to take 3 bracketed shots before the model even has time to twitch. A very slight movement could be removed during processing.
I have taken many outdoor hdr shots in lowish light, handheld without any subject movement or ghosting in the processed shot.
As suggested above a single raw shot could produce a good hdr image and also using photomatix tone mapping plugin could produce good results.

Btw those matthoyle shots look great.

bullpost

You can read how he does it here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0715332015?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwgoodco-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0715332015&SubscriptionId=1MGPYB6YW3HWK55XCGG2

He takes you through his pp workflow.

Jimjay wrote: »

Btw those matthoyle shots look great.

ThOnda

In fairness, it looks like HDR from single RAW image and overdone tonemapping. And I would not call it neither new nor trendy. It is just a technique. Like black and white conversion. Good luck in finding somebody willing to do such work. I could not do that for two reasons - I don't know how to do it and I don't want to learn how to do it. But that is only my personal opinion.

magicbastarder

is there a function in photoshop to set every pixel to 50% luminance? surely that's HDR taken to its logical conclusion?

Jimjay

I think done correctly and for the correct subject hdr can produce beautiful images. Having never used hdr on people/models I don't have examples in that field but without hdr some detail might not be seen. In one exposure I could not get the leaves hanging down above the road to be viewable. Infact I didnt even realise they were there.

I think your project sounds great and although some people don't like hdr I think you should go for it and be very creative. You can get a very unique website as long as it's not overdone as a lot of people can get carried away with the harsher affects.



Christmas in Funchal, Madeira by JayGriffin, on Flickr

Promac

charybdis wrote: »

I don't think you understand the terms or processes involved in what you're describing.

I advise you do some reading on the subjects, and then don't proceed with your current intentions when you realise that nobody specialises (or really even does) this.

If people come asking for help and you can't then don't bother. You make the rest of us look bad with your attitude problem.

charybdis

Promac wrote: »

If people come asking for help and you can't then don't bother. You make the rest of us look bad with your attitude problem.

1: People ask for help.
2: I help them.
3: <SNIP>
4: ???
5: Profit.

charybdis

magicbastarder wrote: »

is there a function in photoshop to set every pixel to 50% luminance? surely that's HDR taken to its logical conclusion?

"HDR" Portrait:

cram1971

Off the OP question but here is a tutorial on how to achieve similiar results in PS from a single image, actualy been playing around with it today for a bit of fun.

http://www.thedigitalphotographyconnection.com/pfdp_player.php?ID=oFj3m8YT

challengemaster

Amazing how people can't read anymore. Lads, the OP isn't a photographer - so probably doesn't give a flying toot about HOW TO make a HDR photo. They don't want links to PS tutorials or blogs about HDR

They want a photographer to take photos of them.

<SNIP>

cram1971

challengemaster wrote: »

Amazing how people can't read anymore. Lads, the OP isn't a photographer - so probably doesn't give a flying toot about HOW TO make a HDR photo. They don't want links to PS tutorials or blogs about HDR

They want a photographer to take photos of them.




I lol'd :pac:

Hey A lot of people read this thread because of the subject HDR photos if the subject isn't specific thread will attract and wander (no offense to OP) so therefore I posted the link as I thought some of the posters would be interested in the link ./.. get off your soap box there is enough people in this country on theirs at the moment

Promac

charybdis wrote: »

1: People ask for help.
2: I help them.
3: <SNIP>
4: ???
5: Profit.

Leave it on AH will you?

charybdis

Promac wrote: »

Leave it on AH will you?

Sssshh. You're making the rest of us look bad.

Borderfox

Getting a bit sick of this, as in the other threads keep it on topic.

pete4130

All studios generally use lighting of some description and I for one wouldn't consider any studio fasion/portrait shot to be "strobist".

"Strobist" for me is any Joe Soap with some off camera flash/lighting set up at home, in the street or DIY studio set up as opposed to a fully working professional studio.

It looks like studio work heavily processed, possibly tonemapped.

magicbastarder

charybdis wrote: »

"HDR" Portrait:

that's the b&w version, though.

achtungbarry

humberklog wrote: »

Ooops, eh, mabeh?:pac:. I'd say he'd give it a go:pac::pac::pac:.

Sorry OP and Prof. Charybdis I didn't see the brackets.:o

But I bet he would!

Would love to help but I know absolutely nothing about fashion photography. And anyway, I'm not sure any models would be too pleased after I've given the raw files a run through the old hdr processing :pac::pac:.

I wouldn't say it is the most flattering look for fashion as every single detail, spot and wrinkle is amplified. I have to say I rarely use the technique if ever with people. I prefer using it with landscapes and urban photography where I can bring out textures and enhance local detail.

Anyway, good look with your search OP.

NayLa

Thanks guys, you all have been very helpful, got a few PMs - will see how it works out, will post the pictures in a while, hopefully it works out well