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BRDS vs IRL

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  • #92
    Magill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    El LoCo Ade wrote: »
    Stop making me thank your posts consantly, ya thanks whore.

    lol, thanks :)


  • #93
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    Can we all just play a friendly match between 2 groups of Irish lads with all equipment, weapons and kill streaks, like the game is supposed to be played.

    One thing I would say we shouldnt do, but not ban, is party chat. Just so we can have a bit of craic in the lobby between games. Its a computer game lads and it should be abit of craic.

    This whole arguement about noobtubes and equipment is just silly. If someone kills me with a grenade launcher, its my own fault I didnt shoot him first. If I get killed by a claymore, I should of had my ****ing eyes open.

    I would like to see a regular, maybe once a week, match against each other. My suggestion would be a weekend game, and each team chooses one game mode. The winning team from the last game, which would be the BRDS clan, chooses their game mode first, and then the challengers goes second. If its all square the decider should be TDM. What core we play in the decider should be decided by the winning team from the following week which again would be BRDS.


  • #94
    I use the name izambard here also.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭I use the name izambard here also.


    Magill wrote: »
    You've never played a clan match then... how the **** do you know its not fun then ?? Ignorance at its finest. Just because theres rules to prevent cheap tactics does not make it any less fun... YOU might find noobtubing danger close one man armying fun... most people do not however. Yeah some people take it a bit serious but most people have a good time playing competitive matches.. the same way that people find sports fun. Rules keep it fair, what do you care anyway... if you dont like it.. fine..

    p.s this is not the fifa forum.
    Thanks for the laugh and I mean that, your reply really made me chuckle. Please purchase a dictionary and first look up the words irony (I know it wasn't explicitly used in the post but it surely was implied) and secondly hypothetically (which was). O, How exactly did I imply I have never played a clan match? I tried to use a simple explanation for why I won't play clan matches but that seems to have gone over your head as well.

    p.s. Ignorance! Brilliant. Thanks again.


  • #95
    Magill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    Lesson of the day...

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  • #96
    docdolittle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭docdolittle


    Royal Irish wrote: »
    Can we all just play a friendly match between 2 groups of Irish lads with all equipment, weapons and kill streaks, like the game is supposed to be played.

    One thing I would say we shouldnt do, but not ban, is party chat. Just so we can have a bit of craic in the lobby between games. Its a computer game lads and it should be abit of craic.

    This whole arguement about noobtubes and equipment is just silly. If someone kills me with a grenade launcher, its my own fault I didnt shoot him first. If I get killed by a claymore, I should of had my ****ing eyes open.

    I would like to see a regular, maybe once a week, match against each other. My suggestion would be a weekend game, and each team chooses one game mode. The winning team from the last game, which would be the BRDS clan, chooses their game mode first, and then the challengers goes second. If its all square the decider should be TDM. What core we play in the decider should be decided by the winning team from the following week which again would be BRDS.

    Yes, yes we can just play the match with normal rules. We wrote here 1 hour before the match was due to start to confirm the rules and all we got was a father ted picture... All throughout this thread, we have said it would be MLG rules and today it was said it would be everything is allowed. I didn't mind that, all I/we wanted to make sure of tonight was the rules IRL wanted to play by as there was complaints last time.

    I'm sure we could of easily played tonight if the rules were confirmed. I would really like something like this to start too, so we really should get past this hiccup and just get on with the gaming. This tit for tat arguing is getting really annoying...


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  • #97
    I use the name izambard here also.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭I use the name izambard here also.


    Magill wrote: »
    Lesson of the day...

    do-not-feed-the-trolls.jpg
    No trolling intended, only enlightenment my friend, enlightenment. (Insert winking emoticon here)


  • #98
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    But can we all agree to just play the game as its intended, and get a regular thing going. I know I'd like to see that happening and the best way is just not ban anything and not take it all too seriously.

    Are we all up for that? Maybe Thursday or Friday night. Like in my above post, you's choose a game mode, with nothing banned, then we just a game mode with nothing banned, then the winners from the previous week chooses what core in TDM to play for the decider. Its easy and its simple and in my opinion it will be more fun.


  • #99
    Magill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    I use the name izambard here also. wrote: »
    No trolling intended, only enlightenment my friend, enlightenment. (Insert winking emoticon here)

    Thanks for that troll... back to your cave now.


  • #100
    I use the name izambard here also.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭I use the name izambard here also.


    Magill wrote: »
    Thanks for that troll... back to your cave now.
    I'm genuinely serious. It's a pity you can't see that but hey what can one do. Good bye.


  • #101
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    Magill wrote: »
    Thanks for that troll... back to your cave now.

    Your the only one who is trolling here. Izamard is in the xbox live IRL clan and we are trying to get a regular game going with the xbox live BRDS clan. I dont really see how any of this concerns you unless you play on xbox live with the BRDS clan?

    Your only on here to argue and bitch with people. Go do it on the Playstation thread.


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  • #102
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,830 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I think the reason why there was talk of disallowing certain things was an attempt to strip the game down to the nuts and bolts and show reliance on basic skills, rather than killstreaks or moreso in fact, primarily the cheap tactics that every gamer here sees on a daily basis - certain things that annoy proper (and not competative in the true sense of the word) gamers. An example as stated before was noob-tubing with Danger Close.

    I think the comparison to sport holds true - diving is a part of the game but its cheap so people don't like it. Its only natural that people that post on here daily are serious enough about the game to play it without the bull**** inherent in the game (for gripes - please see the megabitch thread).

    In order to get things moving, a barebones match to me would be fine!?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #103
    yimrsg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭yimrsg


    I use the name izambard here also. wrote: »
    Ah this thread is beautiful. It is the precise reason why I won't play 'clan matches'. I had to google mlg and the result I found truely made me laugh.
    I use the name izambard here also. wrote: »

    I play for fun, setting additional rules and regulations is not fun (unless for hacking et caetera) hence my abhorrence for these so called clan matches.
    Royal Irish wrote: »
    Your the only one who is trolling here. Izamard is in the xbox live IRL clan and we are trying to get a regular game going with the xbox live BRDS clan. I dont really see how any of this concerns you unless you play on xbox live with the BRDS clan?

    Your only on here to argue and bitch with people. Go do it on the Playstation thread.
    Look again what your clanmate posted. Nothing he has said in this thread has been helpful to reaching an agreement on the rules. In fact he "abhorrs" clan matches.

    If people want to try set up another match with IRL then so be it, but rather than have people who have no interest in participating and whose only input into this thread is to pass on derision at other peoples choice of game modes or have pointless arguements then please go elsewhere.


    Seems as good a place as any to repeat this suggestion.
    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    I'd also like to keep this thread clean of handbags and all that other crap!

    Aside:

    I said I got no enjoyment from last night's experience, I was wrong. There was plenty of it playing with the all the guys, Floyd, Sierra, Blacky, Jev, Doc, Boronic, Paddyman, Atomic and the others whom I was lucky to play with.
    Thanks. I'd gladly play with all of you again. Giggity.


  • #104
    r3nu4l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,392 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Lads give it a rest, no more back and forth, tit-for-tat personalisation.

    I suggest that both clan leaders take this discussion to PM (or even better instant message outside of boards.ie), agree a set of rules and then play together.

    It's a game, it should be fun. It can be fun even if you play mlg, equally, it's as much fun without any restrictions. Just compromise ffs.


  • #105
    mlindsay215
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 586 ✭✭✭mlindsay215


    Mod note: Some text deleted here. Don't continue with comments on trolling
    everlast75 wrote: »
    I think the reason why there was talk of disallowing certain things was an attempt to strip the game down to the nuts and bolts and show reliance on basic skill

    Whilst I understand what you're saying, I disagree, I didn't spend £40 on a game (to which I did buy for the multiplayer alone) to engage in a few online games, only to have certain things that make me a good player taken away.
    rather than killstreaks or moreso in fact, primarily the cheap tactics that every gamer here sees on a daily basis - certain things that annoy proper (and not competative in the true sense of the word) gamers. An example as stated before was noob-tubing

    I just don't understand why it's such a big deal, I get tubed, but I don't cry over it (I'm not saying you are either, just an expression). Hell I might even get tubed 5-6 times in one round, but the fact is, the game does not allow noob tubers to resupply their tube cache. So if I get killed twice by the same guy by a tube, and he hasn't died, he can be sure he's going to get a bullet in the ass next.

    Yes its a cheap tactic, but war's weren't won being fair. I realise this is a video game, but it's based around realistic themes of battle i.e, teamwork to achieve victory, Support outside the combat area (killstreaks) etc.

    You say you want to strip down the clan match to prevent a situation where my clan and I (and your own obviously) will use "annoying" tactics against one another? I say bring it on.

    To see the BRDS clan all six of them running wildly around the map with noob tubes would be a dream come true. (Just an example however).
    I think the comparison to sport holds true - diving is a part of the game but its cheap so people don't like it. Its only natural that people that post on here daily are serious enough about the game to play it without the bull**** inherent in the game (for gripes - please see the megabitch thread).


    +1
    In order to get things moving, a barebones match to me would be fine!?

    Disagree, but I do believe progress has been made.

    Without blowing my own trumpet I personally believe my solution has been by far the most sensible and fair.

    By this I refer to:

    IRL Clan - Chooses a gametype and rules. [Hardcore, KS's ON]
    BRDS Clan - Chooses a gametype and rules.

    In the event of a draw, we can do what we did last time.

    Two matches (HC and) of TDM or SnD.


  • #106
    Mr. Manager
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Man I wish I was a Mod so I could clean up all the crap in here.....

    Despite what you might think Mindslay, Everlast has the best idea so far here.

    Barebones.

    It might be a crappy start to what we all hoped would be a great 'friendly competetive' clan match but it's a start none the least.

    With all that being said, I'm happy to play one game of your choice (HCTF) and one of ours (CDOM) and with the deciding game being TDM with MLG rules.

    I honestly dont see how it can get any fairer than that. You state that you spent £40 on the game and want to avail of all the perks/equipment - surely for the sake of 1 game a week you can put that behind you.

    MLG is of no benefit to us as it is to you guys.


  • #107
    shawpower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭shawpower


    Wow. I'm glad I missed out on this whole mess. How hard is it to just arrange a match?? Everyone seems just a little precious about this. I jumped into a party last night with blacky, Floyd etc while they were playing HCTF and I didn't know what was happening. This all makes sense after reading this.

    It seems like the teams are all full up, so there isn't much point in putting myself forward for this. If you're ever short of a team player, let me know and I'll join in though..

    But here is one suggestion that might be useful. Each team go and create their gamemode rules that they want to use, with all the settings they require. Then simply save it to your fileshare. So once it's agreed upon, you never have confusion in the lobbies again. All you need to change is the maps, which is easily done. So future matches just use the pre-determined rulesets and there isn't confusion with people forgetting to turn on/off certain items.

    As an aside, snide comments about gay softcore gamemodes make you look like an ass.


  • #108
    I use the name izambard here also.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭I use the name izambard here also.


    Since my original comments have been taken out of context again and again I'll be the first to say, let us all move on.
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  • #109
    Korvanica
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    In before izambard gets banned....

    I would like to participate in said clan matches...

    I'd vote Hardcore mode...

    But If people are taking it seriously then F**k that...


  • #110
    Mr. Manager
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Korvanica wrote: »
    I would like to participate in said clan matches...

    I'd vote Hardcore mode...

    When you say "I'd vote Hardcore mode..." I presume that is just for your game choice cos I can tell you now my (:cool:) clan will not play Hardcore for the entire duration.


  • #111
    I use the name izambard here also.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭I use the name izambard here also.


    Korvanica wrote: »
    In before izambard gets banned....

    I would like to participate in said clan matches...

    I'd vote Hardcore mode...

    But If people are taking it seriously then F**k that...

    How dare you, I'm attempting to extend an olive branch and no more you cheeky scamp. Like you I'd love to play but as stated in my original posts (which were very humorously taken out of context) this is what happens. People play in different ways I can accept that but it's just easier to play as standard, hard or easy core. Then the need for this thread as well as the last ten to twenty posts on the About Last Night thread would never have been needed. Both 'clans' need to move on from this with some civility, but I fear this is impossible due to how seriously this whole fiasco has been taken. Either set clear concise rules which are well agreed on or just leave it.


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  • #112
    Mr. Manager
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    I use the name izambard here also. wrote: »
    Either set clear concise rules which are well agreed on or just leave it.

    Clear concise rules have been laid out. See the beginning of this thread.

    Awaiting confirmation of my above post at 11:51


  • #113
    I use the name izambard here also.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭I use the name izambard here also.


    I use the name izambard here also. wrote: »
    Either set clear concise rules which are well agreed on* or just leave it.
    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    Clear concise rules have been laid out. See the beginning of this thread.
    Until this is achieved there is no point.

    *You may not have noticed this in the original post so I highlighted it AND underlined it, hope this helps to convey the point I was making but if it doesn't I'll make it again; agree all the rules or leave it. Simple.


  • #114
    yimrsg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭yimrsg


    Here's a quick summary:

    Cereal Rapist suggested MLG game settings
    IRL declined.
    IRL proposed the each team chooses a game setup and then 2 tdm be played (1 hardcore/normal) - the same match setup as before (that showed how well we can b*tch and moan afterwards) that would have led to an impasse so BRDS declined.

    Everlast suggested barebones game settings
    IRL declined.
    IRL proposed the each team chooses a game setup and then 2 tdm be played (1 hardcore/normal) - the same match setup as before (that showed how well we can b*tch and moan afterwards) that would have led to an impasse so BRDS declined.

    And so on.

    Does this seem like all parties are trying to reach a compromise? We each want to get a good deal for our respective clans but to me there is no point negotiating further. Until you offer a compromise or something other than a picture, this thread may as well be locked.

    As for agreeing on the concise rules part that was mentioned about 10 times already by numerous posters. I won't bother underlining all those occasions. Bubbleking/Athboyace even posted back the rules here.


  • #115
    Mr. Manager
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    yimrsg wrote: »
    As for agreeing on the concise rules part that was mentioned about 10 times already by numerous posters. I won't bother underlining all those occasions. Bubbleking/Athboyace even posted back the rules here.

    If it means getting the game going, extend the game limit in CTF to 10 minutes.

    Job done IMO.

    Good work Yimrag


  • #116
    I use the name izambard here also.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭I use the name izambard here also.


    yimrsg wrote: »
    As for agreeing on the concise* rules part that was mentioned about 10 times already by numerous posters. I won't bother underlining all those occasions. Bubbleking/Athboyace even posted back the rules here.

    I already stated my idea for the rules, twice I believe. I think it is the easiest solution. My concise rules (*concise: adjective-expressing or covering much in few words; brief in form but comprehensive in scope) play the standard game hardcore or soft core. I can't make it easier for you than that.


  • #117
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    Clear concise rules have been laid out. See the beginning of this thread.

    Awaiting confirmation of my above post at 11:51

    I am the IRL clan leader and I have laid out rules earlier in this thread. Its them or no game. I wont play MLG rules or play with anything banned.

    I made an effort to organise a simple, and friendly system to get a regular game going but too many people in the BRDS clan, some who dont even play on xbox live, want to complicate things by having rules and banning stuff.

    If any of you's want to go back a page or two and read what system we should be playing, to get a friendly game going, let me know by pm if you's agree to it. If you's still want to insist on rules and banning stuff, then I suggest a mod lock the thread and we forget about this.


  • #118
    yimrsg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭yimrsg


    I use the name izambard here also. wrote: »
    I already stated my idea for the rules, twice I believe. I think it is the easiest solution. My concise rules (*concise: adjective-expressing or covering much in few words; brief in form but comprehensive in scope) play the standard game hardcore or soft core. I can't make it easier for you than that.

    Your suggestion leads to an impasse. Even if we agree to what you suggested we still will need to agree on a 3rd game type for the decider in all likelihood.

    I won't rise to your condescending tone and give a definition of impasse.


  • #119
    Mr. Manager
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Royal Irish wrote: »
    I am the IRL clan leader and I have laid out rules earlier in this thread. Its them or no game. I wont play MLG rules or play with anything banned.

    I made an effort to organise a simple, and friendly system to get a regular game going but too many people in the BRDS clan, some who dont even play on xbox live, want to complicate things by having rules and banning stuff.

    If any of you's want to go back a page or two and read what system we should be playing, to get a friendly game going, let me know by pm if you's agree to it. If you's still want to insist on rules and banning stuff, then I suggest a mod lock the thread and we forget about this.

    Because you have no intention of meeting down the middle at any point I don't want to play.

    I was sure that "one game of your choice (HCTF) and one of ours (CDOM) and with the deciding game being TDM with MLG rules." would have been the best way to run things.

    Good luck BRDS lads.


  • #120
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    yimrsg wrote: »
    Your suggestion leads to an impasse. Even if we agree to what you suggested we still will need to agree on a 3rd game type for the decider in all likelihood.

    I won't rise to your condescending tone and give a definition of impasse.

    What I outlined earlier in this thread explains a simple solution to that.

    It goes as follows. The winning team from the last night of games, which in this case will be the BRDS clan, chooses the first game mode. Which will probably be core domination. Then the challengers which would be the IRL clan, choose their game mode which could be hardcore CTF. If its all square, the decider is TDM and what core we play is decided by the winning team from the last night of gaming, which would be the BRDS clan.

    No rules or nothing banned. Its simple.


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  • #121
    yimrsg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭yimrsg


    Royal Irish wrote: »
    I am the IRL clan leader and I have laid out rules earlier in this thread. Its them or no game. I wont play MLG rules or play with anything banned.

    I made an effort to organise a simple, and friendly system to get a regular game going but too many people in the BRDS clan, some who dont even play on xbox live, want to complicate things by having rules and banning stuff.

    If any of you's want to go back a page or two and read what system we should be playing, to get a friendly game going, let me know by pm if you's agree to it. If you's still want to insist on rules and banning stuff, then I suggest a mod lock the thread and we forget about this.

    After the mess and fallout of the first game between us we tried to alleviate any further problems by agreeing to some rules for another match.

    We want to play this game as much as you but since there are some things inherent in Black Ops that would negate a friendly game, we suggested to leave them aside. You (your clan) declined, we decided to back out from the match and not go down a similar path as previously done. You still seem to me as wanting it to be a carbon copy of the first match?

    If you want a friendly game, then why strive so hard for a repeat of a game that we have already seen turned into a fiasco?


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