Eircom enacts three strikes rule

Splender1 · 28-12-2010 07:23PM

ok lads, cheers for the replies. i take it ye dont partake in these activities ?
by the way i use peerblock also , alot of good it did !!

evercloserunion · 28-12-2010 07:41PM

Splender1 wrote: »

ok lads, cheers for the replies. i take it ye dont partake in these activities ?
by the way i use peerblock also , alot of good it did !!

Those who do partake in such activities don't use Eircom.

CreepingDeath · 28-12-2010 07:46PM

Splender1 wrote: »

by the way i use peerblock also , alot of good it did !!

You probably didn't have forced encryption enabled on your torrent client.

Splender1 · 28-12-2010 08:03PM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

You probably didn't have forced encryption enabled on your torrent client.

i just had it enabled, what is the difference between forced and enabled?

michael999999 · 28-12-2010 08:17PM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

You probably didn't have forced encryption enabled on your torrent client.

Say what?

Hank_Jones · 28-12-2010 08:26PM

Splender1 wrote: »

i got a warning letter today from eircom stating that the IRMA monitored me downloading a music album 2 weeks ago.
I just have one question, i usually download movies more than music so would it be wish to stop downloading entirely because now my account is now being monitored or is it really only the music that they're concerned about ?
What would you do ?

I would change your broadband provider.

Well I would have done that a long time ago if I was with Eircom, but I would most certainly be doing it now.

That is if you are in a region which has more available than Eircom broadband.

OctavarIan · 28-12-2010 08:43PM

Titan Ashy Pilgrim wrote: »

Why is it only eircom BTW. How come UPC dont take this lark.

Because UPC have a spine and they also know it's totally infeasible to properly enforce such a rule.

The fines handed out by the record industry are outrageous. It sounds juvenile but I support anything that damages the record industry, they are stuck in a prehistoric business model and instead of being innovative are taking the lazy way out and slapping disproportionate fines on literally anyone they can get their hands on. It's sick, and Eircom are sick for supporting it.

evercloserunion · 28-12-2010 09:07PM

OctavarIan wrote: »

Because UPC have a spine and they also know it's totally infeasible to properly enforce such a rule.

More specifically, because they refused to implement the rule, so they were taken to court to try to force them to do so, and the case failed because the court has insufficient jurisdiction to make such an order.

CreepingDeath · 28-12-2010 09:13PM

Splender1 wrote: »

i just had it enabled, what is the difference between forced and enabled?

Enabled means that if both peers agree, then encryption will be used.
But if a peer only offers unencrypted connections, your torrent client can still connect without using encryption.

Forced, means that your torrent client will only accept encrypted connections.
You may get a slower download rate because you're more fussy about who you connect to, but it should avoid ISP eavesdroppers or at least make it trickier for them.

Although most torrent files you click on, are downloaded via http and not https, so they could just as easily watch for those.
So you should also use https when looking for torrent files on torrent sites.

SouperComputer · 28-12-2010 09:17PM

Bah until they actually start cutting people off for real, I'm going to call it posturing. The customers that are leaving as a result of the "announcement" are the subscribers that Eircon don't want anyway. By the time they get to the European court these subscribers will have dropped off.

Genius if you ask me

Now where's that eircom "***k the customer" rat pic?

TheZohanS · 28-12-2010 09:23PM

I know someone who works in Vodafone and he said Vodafone will be following Eircom before the end of Q2 this year.

evercloserunion · 28-12-2010 09:30PM

SouperComputer wrote: »

Bah until they actually start cutting people off for real, I'm going to call it posturing. The customers that are leaving as a result of the "announcement" are the subscribers that Eircon don't want anyway. By the time they get to the European court these subscribers will have dropped off.

Genius if you ask me

Now where's that eircom "***k the customer" rat pic?

Why would Eircom not want the customers who are leaving?

Yawns · 28-12-2010 09:34PM

TheZohan wrote: »

I know someone who works in Vodafone and he said Vodafone will be following Eircom before the end of Q2 this year.

Should that happen I shall be moving from Vodafone too. Plenty other companies out there who will take my money. UPC might be available soon hopefully.

Wertz · 28-12-2010 09:40PM

bnt wrote: »

Eircom are doomed. €3 billion in debt, and they have been downgraded again which means they can forget about borrowing any more. Moody's rating of "Caa" means they are in “poor standing and subject to very high credit risk” - and this from a ratings agency that rated sub-prime mortgages as "AAA". :rolleyes:

That is downright frightening, to think of something as important as a country's telecoms network being owned and managed by a company that is so up to their eyes in debt that they can neither invest money into the physical infrastructure nor keep consumer prices at a level where DSL is open to everyone.
What f*cktard in government thought that selling off a strategic asset like the telephone network was in any way a good idea or that it wouldn't end up like this? Sell off the company, fine...but the whole damn network?

Thanks for the heads up thezohan...looks like all ericom rersellers will be taking this route...

Jumpy · 28-12-2010 09:41PM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Enabled means that if both peers agree, then encryption will be used.
But if a peer only offers unencrypted connections, your torrent client can still connect without using encryption.

Forced, means that your torrent client will only accept encrypted connections.
You may get a slower download rate because you're more fussy about who you connect to, but it should avoid ISP eavesdroppers or at least make it trickier for them.

Although most torrent files you click on, are downloaded via http and not https, so they could just as easily watch for those.
So you should also use https when looking for torrent files on torrent sites.

Encryption is also utterly useless in preventing anyone seeing what you are downloading.

It just encrypts the data so nobody can pick it up from startpoint to endpoint. Thats not how any of them find you. They simply act as one of the peers and see what you are seeding.

Encryption is only useful if you want to send data that you only want the other end to read.

However in this case, they ARE the other end.

mgbgt1978 · 28-12-2010 10:03PM

TheZohan wrote: »

I know someone who works in Vodafone and he said Vodafone will be following Eircom before the end of Q2 this year.

I know someone who works in the Calendar Industry and they told me that we are already in Q4 this year.......

TheZohanS · 28-12-2010 10:06PM

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

I know someone who works in the Calendar Industry and they told me that we are already in Q4 this year.......

Ok...

nxbyveromdwjpg · 28-12-2010 10:24PM

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

I know someone who works in the Calendar Industry and they told me that we are already in Q4 this year.......

Fiscal year

gizmo · 28-12-2010 10:27PM

nm wrote: »

Fiscal year

The fiscal year in Ireland has matched the calender year since 2001.

mr kr0nik · 28-12-2010 11:09PM

eircom use the australian financial year. a byproduct of its previous owners babcock & brown

Johro · 28-12-2010 11:47PM

I can't remember a time I wasn't p!ssed off with eircom. Had a phone connection with them, was supposed to be 37,- a month but they don't tell ya when ya sign up that excludes VAT. My bills were adding up to 60 or 70-something quid after VAT on line rental, on calls and again on the total.
Broadband wasn't available from them, and still isn't. I got hooked up thru eircom only just over a year ago and it was an old fashioned telephone line, not even able for DSL. They kept promising broadband would arrive in our neck of the woods, but have been promising that for years now. Maybe their 'next generation' broadband will be available here in a while, but it's not cheap, and I've cancelled my eircom phone package anyway, I would't go anywhere near them. I now use skype for my calls and I have satellite broadband with digiweb. Eircom sucks bigtime. Most people I know who had phone and broadband bundles with eircom have switched and never looked back.

Squaredude · 29-12-2010 03:57AM

not a hope would i use torrents,i've downloaded at least double my eircom cap of 50gb a month every month for the last 8 months and have had no problems

SouperComputer · 29-12-2010 05:50PM

evercloserunion wrote: »

Why would Eircom not want the customers who are leaving?

Most likely these people are serial downloaders\abusers and they cause a quality of service issue for the others. I'll openly admit that I am one of these people (although I dont use eircom obviously) but from a commercial\business perspective it makes a lot of sense.

Coriolanus · 29-12-2010 07:20PM

ballybunion guy wrote: »

not a hope would i use torrents,i've downloaded at least double my eircom cap of 50gb a month every month for the last 8 months and have had no problems

Idle curiosity, I'm not with eircom but how isn't the limit breach twigged?

fulhamfanincork · 29-12-2010 07:24PM

anyone know if it is illegal to convert youtube videos into mp3 files?

Spunge · 29-12-2010 07:25PM

fulhamfanincork wrote: »

anyone know if it is illegal to convert youtube videos into mp3 files?

It's illegal to tape stuff off the radio.

fulhamfanincork · 29-12-2010 07:26PM

Spunge wrote: »

It's illegal to tape stuff off the radio.

Er....ok.

whatsamsn · 29-12-2010 07:36PM

Hahah very good Spunge

oh and yeah sure its technically illegal but who would know. just as taping songs off the radio

fulhamfanincork · 29-12-2010 07:37PM

whatsamsn wrote: »

Hahah very good Spunge

oh and yeah sure its technically illegal but who would know. just as taping songs off the radio

Oh right. That joke went way over my head.

whatsamsn · 29-12-2010 07:41PM

:P

Actually I'd like to know the ratio of internet users who use the net for illegal doings. I'd go as far and say something like 70-80% (rest just dont know how to lol)

Eircom enacts three strikes rule

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