Eircom enacts three strikes rule

Mark200

fulhamfanincork wrote: »

anyone know if it is illegal to convert youtube videos into mp3 files?

All you're doing is removing the video. Doubt that's illegal.

R0ot

God bless UPC

whatsamsn

All hail upc.

Augmerson

Sheeeeet =/ I just signed up with Eircom for broadband fs. Any idea what I should do lads? I occassionally download a movie (providing I have either already seen it in the cinema or owned it at some stage on DVD, same with music but it's either been to the show or owned the CD before) Eircom were going to put in a line for me and all

MrStuffins

Mark200 wrote: »

All you're doing is removing the video. Doubt that's illegal.

No, what you're doing is copying someone's copyrighted work. Illegal.

bobblepuzzle

MrStuffins wrote: »

No, what you're doing is copying someone's copyrighted work. Illegal.

Have you been living in a cave up to now? This is the norm, whether the artists like it or not... it won't change. The industry needs to buck the trend, and come up with ways to make money off it... take youtube for example, sued countless times for the copyrighted videos, solution: adverts which they have implemented

MrStuffins

bobblepuzzle wrote: »

Have you been living in a cave up to now? This is the norm, whether the artists like it or not... it won't change. The industry needs to buck the trend, and come up with ways to make money off it... take youtube for example, sued countless times for the copyrighted videos, solution: adverts which they have implemented

Excuse me? I think you need to calm down and quit being an Internet Warrior.

I never said it wasn't the norm. Just like, as mentioned before, taping from the radio was the norm.

But it's illegal. You don't have the right to copy a copyrighted work, hence the term "Copyright".

Even people in caves like me know this :rolleyes:

Splender1

ballybunion guy wrote: »

not a hope would i use torrents,i've downloaded at least double my eircom cap of 50gb a month every month for the last 8 months and have had no problems

If you dont use torrents then what do you use ?
Excuse my ignorance

Yawns

No one here is going to start saying how they may or may not get access to files other than using torrents. It would be against site rules for us to inform you how to download illegal content.

However suffice to say there are plenty of methods other than torrents and are freely available and some have a price. How you find out & what you use is up to you.

Squaredude

Nevore wrote: »

Idle curiosity, I'm not with eircom but how isn't the limit breach twigged?

They just dont seem to enforce it at all.

Splender1 wrote: »

If you dont use torrents then what do you use ?
Excuse my ignorance

i use rapidshare/megaupload

leahyl

Guys can someone please help - I know this thread is a few months old but my dad got one of these letters today from eircom about illegal music sharing. I am the primary and only Internet user on the house and I have NEVER downloaded anything illegally. I only ever download music from iTunes. I'm really freaked out by this and don't know what to do.

It says I downloaded Imelda May and the ironic thing is I have her album bur I got it LEGALLY from iTunes.

Eircom is basically telling me that I'm responsible for this even though I haven't done it and have no idea how it happened!!

TPD

leahyl wrote: »

Guys can someone please help - I know this thread is a few months old but my dad got one of these letters today from eircom about illegal music sharing. I am the primary and only Internet user on the house and I have NEVER downloaded anything illegally. I only ever download music from iTunes. I'm really freaked out by this and don't know what to do.

It says I downloaded Imelda May and the ironic thing is I have her album bur I got it LEGALLY from iTunes.

Eircom is basically telling me that I'm responsible for this even though I haven't done it and have no idea how it happened!!

Is your wifi secured with a WEP/WPA password? Anybody in the house use bittorrent or limewire or anything like that?

The J Stands for Jay

Do you have one of those stupid Eircom wireless routers/modems that any 12 year old can get the password for?

mcmoustache

When a torrent file is being downloaded, the "swarm" contains the ip addresses who are up/down loading the file. Lots of trackers add fake ip addresses to the swarm. These ip addresses are what the record companies use to identify file-sharers. This means that your ip address could have been added to the swarm by someone else and seen by the record companies.

That's the problem with this system and I would like to see it tested in court. If Eircom is inspecting packets, then the above information is a bit useless as it would mean that eircom could confirm that you were indeed downloading a torrent file.

leahyl

TPD wrote: »

leahyl wrote: »

Guys can someone please help - I know this thread is a few months old but my dad got one of these letters today from eircom about illegal music sharing. I am the primary and only Internet user on the house and I have NEVER downloaded anything illegally. I only ever download music from iTunes. I'm really freaked out by this and don't know what to do.

It says I downloaded Imelda May and the ironic thing is I have her album bur I got it LEGALLY from iTunes.

Eircom is basically telling me that I'm responsible for this even though I haven't done it and have no idea how it happened!!

Is your wifi secured with a WEP/WPA password? Anybody in the house use bittorrent or limewire or anything like that?

I have no idea what bittorrent or limewire is!! I'm really clueless on these things! Is WEP the password on the bottom of the router? If it is then yes I have one of them!

Vicxas

Im with SMART. 1:1 Contention, cant complain

TPD

leahyl wrote: »

I have no idea what bittorrent or limewire is!! I'm really clueless on these things! Is WEP the password on the bottom of the router? If it is then yes I have one of them!

Yup. I'm guessing your wireless broadcast name is 'eircom12345678' or something. You should change your password (go to 192.168.1.254 in a web browser, click wireless, there should be options to change the password), which will mean reconnecting any wireless devices like your laptop, to your router, with the new password. Somebody nearby has probably been stealing your internet.

With regards to eircom, I'd reply that somebody has gained access to your internet because of their own awful encryption system, and downloaded the files without your knowledge. I'm not sure what legal legs you have to stand on, but it's more eircom's fault than yours. Also, if you have any proof from Apple that you bought the album through iTunes, you should probably forward that to them too. A dated invoice email or something.

mcmoustache

leahyl wrote: »

I have no idea what bittorrent or limewire is!! I'm really clueless on these things! Is WEP the password on the bottom of the router? If it is then yes I have one of them!

When did you get eircom internet? If you have a netopia router from a few years ago, a child could crack your wifi.

leahyl

TPD wrote: »

leahyl wrote: »

I have no idea what bittorrent or limewire is!! I'm really clueless on these things! Is WEP the password on the bottom of the router? If it is then yes I have one of them!

Yup. I'm guessing your wireless broadcast name is 'eircom12345678' or something. You should change your password (go to 192.168.1.254 in a web browser, click wireless, there should be options to change the password), which will mean reconnecting any wireless devices like your laptop, to your router, with the new password. Somebody nearby has probably been stealing your internet.

With regards to eircom, I'd reply that somebody has gained access to your internet because of their own awful encryption system, and downloaded the files without your knowledge. I'm not sure what legal legs you have to stand on, but it's more eircom's fault than yours. Also, if you have any proof from Apple that you bought the album through iTunes, you should probably forward that to them too. A dated invoice email or something.

Thanks - and the weird thing is I was syncing my iPod with my computer the other day and I lost a load of music - once again I did nothing that would cause this to happen - and I lost a few albums, one of them being Imelda may so I'm wondering has this something to do with it.

holystungun9

PK2008 wrote: »

Quick question:

Is downloading 20 GB of pr0n per day considered suspicious?

Way a head of ya! Both Eircom and NTL view this is as 'reasonable use'. Equally my doctor reckons the crippling pains in my arm and the 'chicken skinning' of my nob is down to 'run-of-the-mill wear and tear' and is 'to-be-expected' for a young man of my age.

Coriolanus

leahyl wrote: »

Guys can someone please help - I know this thread is a few months old but my dad got one of these letters today from eircom about illegal music sharing. I am the primary and only Internet user on the house and I have NEVER downloaded anything illegally. I only ever download music from iTunes. I'm really freaked out by this and don't know what to do.

It says I downloaded Imelda May and the ironic thing is I have her album bur I got it LEGALLY from iTunes.

Eircom is basically telling me that I'm responsible for this even though I haven't done it and have no idea how it happened!!

Send them a copy of the email reciept for your itunes purchase of imelda may and a photocopy of your hand giving them the middle finger.

vampire of kilmainham

i left eircom a long time back im with UPC now and have no problems

ScumLord

leahyl wrote: »

Guys can someone please help - I know this thread is a few months old but my dad got one of these letters today from eircom about illegal music sharing. I am the primary and only Internet user on the house and I have NEVER downloaded anything illegally. I only ever download music from iTunes. I'm really freaked out by this and don't know what to do.

It says I downloaded Imelda May and the ironic thing is I have her album bur I got it LEGALLY from iTunes.

Eircom is basically telling me that I'm responsible for this even though I haven't done it and have no idea how it happened!!

Show eircom your receipts for legally purchased music then sue them for slander.