Dissidia Duodecim: Final Fantasy

I hated the game with a passion when I first played the Japanese ISO too, but I gave it the benefit of the doubt and picked up the EU release on launch date. I've since clocked up 200 hours on it and rank it as my favourite game on the PSP, though it's a pretty tight lead over Monster Hunter FU =D
Pretty much half the people I talk to utterly detest the game though so I guess I'm just especially awesome.
Or fanboyish. I dunno.

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

It ended up ranking among my most hated games of all time, no game can sent me into an absolute blinding rage so quickly and so consistently (some of the most blatently cheating AI ever didn't help).

What exactly did you hate about it?

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

Pffffft..... I'll try to keep it civil. :pac:

-Slow ass clunky gameplay, everything you can do has about 5 seconds of startup and a week of recovery.

-Camera lol, wallruns especially tended to result in the camera flipping around sending you in a random directions just long enough to eat some beamspam.

-Cheating. CHEATING. CHEATING. "Oh wow, you have full health and like a hojillion brave, sure I've got about 200 brave but I'll hit you with this super weak attack which will immediately break you and combo it into an instant kill kthnxbye."

I dont really agree with the slow combat, but the camera and usually unfair damage dealing ability the computer tends to have can be pretty damn annoying.
With regards to the camera, particularly I often find myself backed into a corner doing a Chase Battle thing (semi rock paper scissors slow motion battles) where I cant see myself or the opponent. I've played the game enough that I can still basically know what's going on even when I cant see the characters, but it's a pretty retarded problem that basically happens whenever you go near a corner.

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

Other less infuriating things include:

-Each character starts with like 2-3 moves, you needed to unlock / buy / whatever the rest.

-The entire "bad guy" side are locked from the start and iirc have no story mode at all once you get them, so all you can do is play random vs matches with them.

I both dislike and love the ability unlocking idea in the game. On one hand it's a pretty sweet way of keeping the FF feel to it by introducing leveling and whatnot and you can customize your characters to a pretty deep level. On the other hand most characters are totally useless until level 30 when they get most of their cool moves. Getting past that L30 hurdle is particularly annoying for the Villains - as you said they dont have a story, so there's very little incentive for you to give you incentive to level them up.
It does sidestep this problem to a degree with its Arcade Mode. In that section you can play against the computer or other PSPs using standardised characters. I do wish that mode gave you access to all the moves in the game though so you can build your characters instead of using stock ones.

Xinkai wrote: »

Also, EVEN SF4 HAS UNLOCKABLES, so no bitching about unlocking, please.

Didn't most people bitch about SF4 having locked characters? XD I know it pissed me off back at the first Inferno. SSFIV made the right decision by removing unlockable characters. Titles, Icons and audio options as unlockables is totally fine in my books - characters and basic moves for each of those characters is understandably an issue.
I'd have been far happier to have all the villains unlocked from the start and offer a much shorter story mode for each of them. If they really wanted to, keep the 11 and 12 characters as locked content.

I'm hoping all that stuff is addressed in the next one, but I have a feeling the camera is going to be just as bad.

Didn't see these posts :pac:

SirAuronDX wrote: »

Yeah Sairus i Main Golbez and Jecht solely for their damage and insane combos
Jecht and Golbez are the only two that can do these insane ex cancels

Im looking forward to the new one
they've added a whole new bunch of moves for the exsisting characters and changed the style of them as seen by clouds style (i heard japan gets a kingdomhearts outfit for cloud). he looks almost exactly like the amano art down to the earing. Also the assist combos will allow anyone to continue massive combos.

ALSO
FERGUS
did you notice at 2:13 it also confirms BASCH?

I briefly toyed with using those two - especially Jecht. That guy has ****ing mental damage output.
I pumped hundreds of hours into the game, but never properly learned any combos 'cause all I had was the computer to play against. I didnt even know there was such a thing as an EX cancel in this game XD Those vids are mad! XD

And yar, every character has 3 costumes now. The two they had from the first game plus fancy Amano design versions.
Some characters have a fourth dlc costume. So far only Cloud and Lightening's have been revealed. You get them by having a save from Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep Final Mix and The 3rd Birthday respectively. Since Final Mix very likely wont come out over here, we'll probably just get them on the UMD.

Also, that Basch is just Gabranth's alternate costume. http://www.dissidia012duodecim.com/character-update-judge-gabranth/

There's no revealed characters I'm mad about yet really Maybe Lightning or Yuna, but I'm still content with Cloud of Darkness. Moar lazors.

Also, after watching the trailer again I realised Prishe isn't speaking Japanese. After many rewindings I believe she's saying "...you're by yourself". SO EXCITING! :pac:

Some minor new info.
Costumes for Warrior of Light and Garland:





I really like Garland's.
Fighter/Knight WoL is pretty cool too I guess :P

Siliconera also have a run down of the apperantly very short Prologus demo.
Basically the Scenario Mode is 4 consectutive battles played as Lightning with Warrior of Light as your assist. You dont heal between battles.
Arcade has two options, 5 sequential opponents, or thirty. You get to choose from 7 characters, all with pre-assigned abilities and assists: Lightning, Kain, Warrior of Light, Garland, Kefka, Sephiroth, and Jecht. You are not limited to fighting just these guys though. Siliconera mention Shantotto, Cloud of Darkness and Terra.
They hint that you might unlock something if you beat all 30 opponents in a row.

Lightning uses Paradigm Shifts as her main shtick. Like in FF13, she can switch paradigms to give herself new moves. It's basically switching classes. Tapping L+R switches Paradigms.
Commando is her melee class, Ravager gives her ranged spells and Medic lets her charge her Bravery.

Kain doesn't sound too special. He has a chargable Jump attack - the longer you charge the further he jumps. He also sounds like he has a good mix of ranged and melee attacks. I magine he'll be good in the air. Dem dragoons.

Other tidbits from the comments are that the game feels faster now, even falling out of the sky is faster. Chases are apperantly much faster.

Finally, the demo download is two files - one 550MB demo file, and one 500KB assist file containing Aeris. I imagine this means you'll be able to delete the demo when you get the full game to free up all that precious space, but keep Aeris.
I'm curious how that assist is rigged to just stop people downloading a copy of it onto their PSP without buying the demo. Probably just tags the file with your PSP's code when you run the demo for the first time, I dunno.