Man who threw friendly snowball at policewoman charged with common assault.

Guy:Incognito · 23-12-2010 01:37PM

liah wrote: »

I never had any reason to.

Did the guy in the story have reason to throw one at a policewoman?

liah · 23-12-2010 01:43PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Did the guy in the story have reason to throw one at a policewoman?

Nope, most people in general only throw snowballs for a reason-- snowball fight, in return 'cuz someone else threw it at you, etc. I don't know what the guy's reason was. I already stated he's an idiot for throwing a snowball at someone he doesn't know.

Her being a policewoman should have absolutely nothing to do with it. Either it's legal or illegal for everyone. Making it illegal would be stupid, which is the point I'm trying to make.

stateofflux · 23-12-2010 01:45PM

he should'nt have thrown it...he should have known how police react to their ego/power being bruised.....the arrest is an overreaction....should have just given him an intimidating warning on the spot.....

Guy:Incognito · 23-12-2010 01:48PM

stateofflux wrote: »

he should'nt have thrown it...he should have known how police react to their ego/power being bruised.....the arrest is an overreaction....should have just given him an intimidating warning on the spot.....

He looks the type to take a ticking off from a police officer seriously anyway ......

Canis Lupus · 23-12-2010 01:49PM

liah wrote: »

Her being a policewoman should have absolutely nothing to do with it. Either it's legal or illegal for everyone. Making it illegal would be stupid, which is the point I'm trying to make.

No I don't feel that's totally right. When a police officer is on duty and in uniform they represent (I dunno I'm stuck for the right description) a figurehead of authority. You simply don't throw snowballs at them.

stateofflux · 23-12-2010 01:58PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

He looks the type to take a ticking off from a police officer seriously anyway ......

true, looks well dodge. but how could you arrest anyone with that disarming blue jumper?r(probable attire of accused at time of incident :pac:)

liah · 23-12-2010 01:59PM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

No I don't feel that's totally right. When a police officer is on duty and in uniform they represent (I dunno I'm stuck for the right description) a figurehead of authority. You simply don't throw snowballs at them.

Do you genuinely think that throwing a snowball, of all things, deserves jailtime, regardless of who the subject is?

Canis Lupus · 23-12-2010 02:03PM

liah wrote: »

Do you genuinely think that throwing a snowball, of all things, deserves jailtime, regardless of who the subject is?

Nah not jailtime BUT and it's an important but we only have the skinhead with the jailesque teardrop tattos side of things.

What your honour? it was only a friendly snowball

When what really happened:

He threw the snowball as hard as he could and said **** off you slag pig.

Of course no one knows what really happened and I'm hyping it up but like I already said, he doesn't look like the type to have a friendly snowball fight with a police officer. It's all about the little details in this one.

23-12-2010 02:04PM

Thing is that it does depend on who the subject is. If it's a friend, fine. If it's a stranger, kinda ignorant. If it's someone in a position of power, like a police woman, idiotic!

Saadyst · 23-12-2010 02:09PM

How do you think you'd get on if you threw a snowball at a politician or some celebrity?

Officers get enough shít to deal with without some bollox throwing snowballs at them as well.

Arrested is overkill, but I'd certainly say a fine or caution would work.

cazzzzz · 23-12-2010 02:14PM

I got pelted by one in the eye, was swollen for ages...friendly snowball? pah

Calibos · 23-12-2010 02:22PM

Sure isn't throwing a snowball always 'We're just havin a laugh like'

Gang pelting house windows all the way up the road on their way home at 3am?

'We're just havin a laugh like'

Lads pelting a car causing the driver to skid into a traffic island and wrecking his suspension?

'We're just havin a laugh like'

Gang pelting an oul fella with a few jars on his way home causing him to slip and nearly have a heart attck and fractured pelvis?

'We're just havin a laugh like'

Gang witnessing an elderly man with a walking stick slip in the middle of the road onto his back. Help him get up or run over and pelt him while he lay in the middle of the road on the ground?

'We're just havin a laugh like'

Gang start throwing snowballs at a Filipino Mother and 5 or 6 year old kid who throws one back thinking it was a friendly snowball fight? Wasn't friendly when the gang started hurling racial abuse as well as snowballs and the mother and child had to run away crying?

'We're just havin a laugh like'

Tormenting the Chinese shop owner every single day throwing snowballs in the door en masse and hurling racist abuse?

'We're just havin a laugh like'

A 'real' snowball fight is good humoured between groups of teens whether they know each other or not or between people of any age who know each other and when the sides are evenly matched. Gangs pelting much smaller groups or people on their own is just scumbags being scumbags....End Of

Dravokivich · 23-12-2010 02:30PM

In all fairness, it was obstructing her from carrying out her duty... what ever it was she was doing...

That is the reason why it would have been pursued.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 23-12-2010 02:39PM

Chief--- wrote: »

This fella is lucky he ended up in court and not in A&E.

Are you seriously suggesting that he's lucky the police didn't beat him up so bad as to put him in A&E for throwing a snowball?.

Having snowballs thrown at you is a pain in the hoop, but its part & parcel of the novelty of us having snow.

The Defence Forces here are out clearing paths & roads, plus providing transport from 'meals on wheels' to medical care & transport - you know how many snowballs I've had thrown at me?... Its a pain, but its the craic of a snowy winter.

FoxT · 23-12-2010 02:43PM

chin_grin wrote: »

No such thing as a "friendly snowball".

Actually - there is

But I wouldn't walk up to a policewoman & give her one....

Nephew · 23-12-2010 02:43PM

An eye for an eye, I say. I hope he gets graped* in prison.

*the insertion of grapes into the anal cavity or gay raped.

Bullseye1 · 23-12-2010 02:45PM

Unless someone is partaking in a snowball fight i don't see why a third party should be involved unless they ask to join.

Stercus Accidit · 23-12-2010 02:48PM

liah wrote: »

Do you genuinely think that throwing a snowball, of all things, deserves jailtime, regardless of who the subject is?

I think assault should, and assault encompases many things, threatening behaviour, intimidation, aggression, physical contact of any kind, throwing things, pretending to throw a punch and stopping short.

It is very easy to come up with an excuse, and is how most bullies operate, sure its only name calling, its only a friendly punch on the arm, a friendly snowball.

Intent and effect on the victim are what defines assault, not arbitrary definitions of what is and isn't 'fun'.

Peoples lives are made hell by others staying within an arbritray rule and exploiting excuses. One look at this piece of sh*t (lets call a spade a spade and to hell with PC) in the article and you know he wasn't having harmless fun, he was assaulting and belittling someone in a way he thought he could get away with, a police officer no less because he wanted to abuse her in any way he can. Shouting obscenities and verbal abuse are restricted in the same way, you cant roar and shout at someone and once they feel threatened, it is assault. This is the case in Ireland, and would be similar if not identical in the UK, in this instance, this guy actually tried or succeeded in physically hitting the officer with a thrown object, no matter what it is.

The judge will decide on his sentance and its weight versus his crime, trying to fob it off entirely as a non-issue or 'fun' is a defence tactic, nothing more, typical of those trying to trivialise their actions, and humiliate the victim for ever complaining.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 23-12-2010 02:59PM

**edited - can't be arse at Christmas.

tommyhaas · 23-12-2010 03:21PM

davetherave wrote: »

What is the difference between me throwing, for example, a glass bottle and a snowball at a member of the Gardai. In both cases I have knowingly aimed and fired a projectile at the person and both are going to impact on him/her.

Having been hit the head with both, I can confirm that there is infact a large difference. The glass bottle was worse. Far worse

bnt wrote: »

Good. It's not a snow fight unless there are two sides taking part. Where's the sport in throwing snowballs at strangers who are just trying to get from A to B? I even saw a teenager dropping large lumps of ice on cars from a footbridge over the N11 - which could easily cause a crash. I think he saw the look on my face, because he dropped his load and ran the other way.

I'll bet those kids grow up in to torturing cats, then join the Army so they can go and shoot at foreigners. No sense of right vs. wrong. :mad:

How did you arrive at that conclusion? I dont see a link between kids throwing snowballs at strangers and then torturing cats

And whats wrong with growing up to join the army?

the_syco · 23-12-2010 03:28PM

The "tear" tattoo often means that he has done prison time. So someone who has a "gone to prison" tattoo throwing a snowball at a police officer is a fairly retarded thing to do.

He was also showing "how much a man he was" by attacking a police officer. A great role model to his kid. Well, his kid will now see that "you f**k with the police, and they'll come for you".

For all we know, the female policewoman got the snowball to the face, and it may have hurt her. I bet the little f**k wouldn't have thrown the snowball at a male police officer.

Canis Lupus · 23-12-2010 03:31PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

And whats wrong with growing up to join the army?

It's a generalisation sure but the kinda lads who CAN'T WAIT to be in the army strike me as lads who just want to play in tanks and shoot guns legally at foreigners.

Nemanja91 · 23-12-2010 03:33PM

Well he claims to have killed someone so he probably deserves it.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 23-12-2010 03:38PM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

It's a generalisation sure but the kinda lads who CAN'T WAIT to be in the army strike me as lads who just want to play in tanks and shoot guns legally at foreigners.

I've never played in a tank in my life, and I'm in the army 25yrs now

the_syco · 23-12-2010 03:41PM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

It's a generalisation sure but the kinda lads who CAN'T WAIT to be in the army strike me as lads who just want to play in tanks and shoot guns legally at foreigners.

That has to be the most ignorant trollish comment that I've read so far today.

MagicSean · 23-12-2010 03:44PM

Jaxen Muscular Racquetball wrote: »

I've never played in a tank in my life, and I'm in the army 25yrs now

Did you ever torture cats?

Canis Lupus · 23-12-2010 03:46PM

Jaxen Muscular Racquetball wrote: »

I've never played in a tank in my life, and I'm in the army 25yrs now

Well then you're doing it wrong :P

arybvtcw0eolkf · 23-12-2010 03:50PM

k_mac wrote: »

Did you ever torture cats?

Not yet!.. But I remember pulling the legs off spiders!.

Canis Lupus · 23-12-2010 03:51PM

the_syco wrote: »

That has to be the most ignorant trollish comment that I've read so far today.

Give me a while. It' early yet.

strobe · 23-12-2010 03:58PM

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

I think assault should, and assault encompases many things, threatening behaviour, intimidation, aggression, physical contact of any kind, throwing things, pretending to throw a punch and stopping short.

It is very easy to come up with an excuse, and is how most bullies operate, sure its only name calling, its only a friendly punch on the arm, a friendly snowball.

Intent and effect on the victim are what defines assault, not arbitrary definitions of what is and isn't 'fun'.

Peoples lives are made hell by others staying within an arbritray rule and exploiting excuses. One look at this piece of sh*t (lets call a spade a spade and to hell with PC) in the article and you know he wasn't having harmless fun, he was assaulting and belittling someone in a way he thought he could get away with, a police officer no less because he wanted to abuse her in any way he can. Shouting obscenities and verbal abuse are restricted in the same way, you cant roar and shout at someone and once they feel threatened, it is assault. This is the case in Ireland, and would be similar if not identical in the UK, in this instance, this guy actually tried or succeeded in physically hitting the officer with a thrown object, no matter what it is.

The judge will decide on his sentance and its weight versus his crime, trying to fob it off entirely as a non-issue or 'fun' is a defence tactic, nothing more, typical of those trying to trivialise their actions, and humiliate the victim for ever complaining.

I'm with you my man. I mean just look at the guy. I mean I can't be quite sure without proper access and my phrenology tools to hand but the guy clearly has the sloping brow of your common arsonist, not to mention his number 5 brain organ clearly indicates he has a high level of the carnivorous instinct; the tendency to murder. Why my good man, he is nothing short of a scurrilous dastard by my reckoning, or my name isn't Lord Fauntelroy Fitzbury the third!

Man who threw friendly snowball at policewoman charged with common assault.

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