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A Conspiracy I believe in, and it is happening right now!

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    #122
    Misanthrope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    gizmo wrote: »
    It was pointed out in the very next post that he had in fact broken laws. :)


    Most likely none that he will be brought to justice for.But thanks for pointing that out.


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    #123
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Sunday Times Ireland broke a story today 31/10/10 alleging senior public servants knew about the illegal €7.4 billion transfers between Anglo and IL&P.
    ''The department of finance, the financial regulator and the central bank were aware of the September 2008 IL&P transactions well in advance of of anglo Irish Bank publishing it's 2008 financial results in December 2008'' Casey (former chief exec of IL&P) said in a statement
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    A reminder of the events of 2008 here.
    On 14 December 2008, the Government decided on an approach to the recapitalisation of credit institutions


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    #124
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    squod wrote: »
    Sunday Times Ireland broke a story today 31/10/10 alleging senior public servants knew about the illegal €7.4 billion transfers between Anglo and IL&P.

    of course they did


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    #125
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    There's more revelations in today's papers and radio shows.
    David Drumm, personally informed him that the bank was haemorrhaging deposits and was facing severe problems with its liquidity at a private dinner in April 2008 -- a full five months before the Government introduced the controversial €440bn deposit guarantee scheme.

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/pressure-on-cowen-to-reveal-what-he-knew-months-before-bank-guarantee-2410676.html

    For today then our cost of borrowing is rising. Anyone who has agreed to lend ''us'' money to bail our banks is getting a 7% interest bonanza.


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    #126
    Joshua Jones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭Joshua Jones


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D0VhS8qXT0


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    #127
    cedissapointed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭cedissapointed


    ''Elite are selling our sovereignty to protect Anglo & Irish Nationwide bondholders

    This is an article by David McWilliams about a conspiracy that is happening right now about how our government is handing over our sovereignty to the mega rich elite. Please read it. I fully agree with all he has written in this article. The thing that sickens me most is, I don't even know what to do about it! :mad: ''



    ''I'll write more tomorrow. Gotta sleep now''


    What has shocked me most just to get off track for a minute,was the fact that most of these politicians have no qualifications directly relating to their job,it is all about a nod and a wink even today our dail is all about who u know not what you know,which is the very reason why our buffon FF government have us in this mess..

    Before the banking collapse,the ''ombudsman''(a group of highly paid and overated and overqualified specialist consultants) were paid by our government to do a ''stress test'',his results were that our situation was ok and there was nothing to worry about,not long after this deceptive ''stress test'',designed to fool us all the truth came out.

    Our debt is still rolling on,and after we have gotten our bail out from the germans (if we **** this up and i am sure we will given the choices in government),we will be on the EU blacklist.


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    #128
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    cedissapointed wrote: »

    I've borrowed the video from the Kaiser report thread which sums up the story nicely. The country is now a total laughing stock and investors simply cannot believe their luck as the bonds used to loan money to our bailout system are making such fantastic gains.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBbgVZz7_YM


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    #129
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Developers score €200,000 salaries from NAMA

    http://www.thejournal.ie/developers-score-e200000-salaries-from-nama-2010-10/


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    #130
    constance tench
    Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭constance tench


    10.10am: An Irish member of the European parliament has just stormed out of a "closed door" meeting of Irish MEPs in Brussels after the EU's commissioner for monetary affairs, Olli Rehn (left), told him the content of the meeting was to remain secret. He walked out after two minutes.

    "What he said was: 'I could give the party line or share the real info,'" said Socialist MEP Joe Higgins, adding that Rehn spoke with a forked tongue – one for the media and one for MEPs.

    http://m.guardian.co.uk/business/ireland-business-blog-with-lisa-ocarroll/2010/nov/23/ireland?cat=business&type=article


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    #131
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    I'm quite sure the talks would have progressed more efficiently without Higgins in the room to be honest. I take it you've all seen the Socialist 10 point plan to "save" the economy? :pac:


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    #132
    meglome
    Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    gizmo wrote: »
    I'm quite sure the talks would have progressed more efficiently without Higgins in the room to be honest. I take it you've all seen the Socialist 10 point plan to "save" the economy? :pac:

    I read these a couple of days ago... are they taking drugs?


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    #133
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    meglome wrote: »
    I read these a couple of days ago... are they taking drugs?

    Can't say that it's any more ludicrous than FF socialising (up to) €100bn in private debt in a recession with absolutely no hope of repaying it.
    Let me quote Mr Rehn's admirably frank reminder: "We need to recall that sovereign debt has not been at the origin of the crisis. Rather, private debt has become public debt. The financial sector has misallocated resources in the economy and then stopped working."


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    #134
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    squod wrote: »
    Can't say that it's any more ludicrous than FF socialising (up to) €100bn in private debt in a recession with absolutely no hope of repaying it.
    Of course we'll be able to repay it, granted it may take awhile but it'll certainly happen. As for them not being more ludicrous than certain FF policies, can't say I agree. They actually suggest increasing corporation tax, a move which no sane person either within this country or not, would condone.


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    #135
    meglome
    Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    squod wrote: »
    Can't say that it's any more ludicrous than FF socialising (up to) €100bn in private debt in a recession with absolutely no hope of repaying it.

    And yet the majority of the electorate voted for FF. Seems crazy now eh.

    That list on the socialist website is not so much socialist as totally anti-capitalist. Those two things are not the same.


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    #136
    espinolman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    gizmo wrote: »
    Of course we'll be able to repay it,

    I won't be paying one cent of it , i did not get a mortgage or any loans and i won't be paying for someone else's house that they can't afford to pay .

    The government can send me to jail , but i won't be paying anything .


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    #137
    meglome
    Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    espinolman wrote: »
    I won't be paying one cent of it , i did not get a mortgage or any loans and i won't be paying for someone else's house that they can't afford to pay .

    The government can send me to jail , but i won't be paying anything .

    Who did you vote for at the last few elections?


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    #138
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ing8xH3Qj-k


    I haven't actually had a chance to watch this yet, but I'm sure it'll be appreciated here! =p


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    #139
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    espinolman wrote: »
    I won't be paying one cent of it , i did not get a mortgage or any loans and i won't be paying for someone else's house that they can't afford to pay .

    The government can send me to jail , but i won't be paying anything .
    You'll be paying taxes therefore you'll be paying for it. :)


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    #140
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    gizmo wrote: »
    Of course we'll be able to repay it,

    That question was just raised on Miriam O'Callghan's show there. I doubt we can, I guess we'll see.


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    #141
    Slick50
    Registered Users Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭Slick50


    meglome wrote: »
    And yet the majority of the electorate voted for FF. Seems crazy now eh.

    The majority did NOT vote for FF, that is why the greens and
    the various indo's were involved. The harm was done well before the last election anyway. The insanity that has been perpetrated on our economy since has certainly exasperated the situation though.

    Why hasn't the clown leading the investigation into the banks been kicked in the b*ll*x and fired for sitting on his hands for two years waiting for the passwords to the information he is supposed to be examining? Why hasn't anybody been prossecuted for withholding information, or obstructing justice?


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    #142
    espinolman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    gizmo wrote: »
    You'll be paying taxes therefore you'll be paying for it. :)

    Eh no , i won't be . I will go to jail instead of paying taxes and you will be paying for it .
    I am not paying , end of story .
    The government should have asked us if we wanted the loan from the IMF before they took it .
    There is no of others that won't be paying either .


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    #143
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    espinolman wrote: »
    Eh no , i won't be . I will go to jail instead of paying taxes and you will be paying for it .
    I am not paying , end of story .
    The government should have asked us if we wanted the loan from the IMF before they took it .
    There is no of others that won't be paying either .
    So you're going to contact your employer and tell him to stop paying your PRSI and PAYE contributions? Do let us know how that conversation goes. :)

    Also, if the government had asked us whether we wanted the loan from the EU/IMF I would hope that the answer would have been yes since like, we need to pay for things like the public service, social welfare etc...


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    #144
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    gizmo wrote: »

    Also, if the government had asked us whether we wanted the loan from the EU/IMF I would hope that the answer would have been yes since like, we need to pay for things like the public service, social welfare etc...

    The point was made again on VB that we need to separate our private debt from our sovereign debt, now. We can handle the sovereign debt.


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    #145
    constance tench
    Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭constance tench


    recipie for disaster

    150 billion cans of worms
    150 billion red herrings
    top with cheese
    serve cold


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    #146
    espinolman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    gizmo wrote: »
    we need to pay for things like the public service, social welfare etc...

    What public service ! This is Ireland we're talking about here .


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    #147
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    espinolman wrote: »
    What public service ! This is Ireland we're talking about here .

    Yeah, but isn't Somalia either.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #148
    Di0genes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    My name is URL wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ing8xH3Qj-k


    I haven't actually had a chance to watch this yet, but I'm sure it'll be appreciated here! =p

    We should be printing our own money, and through the expansion or contraction of the amount money we should control the supply.

    So we should print less or more money whichever is better.

    A shining future as Minister for Finance for Robert Mugabe awaits this member of the Corrs.


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    #149
    Di0genes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    espinolman wrote: »
    What public service ! This is Ireland we're talking about here .

    Roads, police, ambulances, water, power, schools.


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    #150
    digme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    Strike against austerity cuts brings Portugal to a halt


    Next please.


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    #151
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    digme wrote: »
    Strike against austerity cuts brings Portugal to a halt


    Next please.

    Next what?


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