Real Woman - What are they?

Distorted wrote: »

I'm not convinced. Maybe above 5 feet 9 it does but I've plenty female friends around the 5 feet 7/5 feet 8 mark who are the same clothes size as me and don't look particularly skinny. We all do a lot of sports and it means your body is more toned. It doesn't really compare with someone who the most exercise they get is walking round the shops. People are different shapes, obviously. Some people for example do have naturally skinny legs and arms and have a very skinny look but I don't accept that the way the current brainwashing seems to be going - that size 12/14 is normal and size 8 is skinny. Its just because people generally lead such sedentary lives now. No-one needs to carry extra weight.

Clothes sizes have also got more generous. I'm pretty sure I'd have been a standard size 10 20 years ago. Now I mainly get size 8 and sometimes size 6, and theres no way I'm a size 6! Some shops have massive clothing sizes!

Yeah, I get what you're saying, but most of the girls I know who are size 8 are very thin, and some girls who are size 12 look overweight, and others don't, and that nearly always has to do with height. That's what I meant.

But that's a separate issue to the 'real woman' thing I think.

mahamageehad wrote: »

I thought real women referred to women that were sexy, but curvy? Girls with natural hourglass figures- boobs, hips and arse. Size doesn't have to come into it, it's all about proportion. I would never use real woman to refer to fat people.

hmmm.. i suppose real woman, to me, is the difference between a hot curvy lady confident in her body and a skeletal woman always on a diet.

Why is then that my close male friend told me that guys like him don't feel they have the confidence to ask out the hotter women and go for the more ordinary girls, like his girlfriend, who is always on a diet, but never seems to change shape? And who is a size 16/18?

Why is that the guys in my running club who have the more "homely" looking girlfriends are the ones trying to chat me up and hide the fact that they have girlfriends? tbh they get on my flippin nerves and I wish they'd just go out with girls they were happier with.

Distorted wrote: »

Why is then that my close male friend told me that guys like him don't feel they have the confidence to ask out the hotter women and go for the more ordinary girls, like his girlfriend, who is always on a diet, but never seems to change shape? And who is a size 16/18?

That poor girl. She shouldn't be trying to get in shape for that guy anyway.

coconut5 wrote: »

That poor girl. She shouldn't be trying to get in shape for that guy anyway.

I don't know; she's only 21, if she's that size at that age then if she does what hte average person does and puts on weight slowly over the years, she's going to be morbidly obese in her mid thirties.

starbelgrade wrote: »

Maybe it's because the guys you know seem to be twats.

Just a pretty average range of guys. In fact I admire him because he admitted the truth.

Your'e not telling me that guys behave like that (and I know when someone fancies me or not) and texts you to meet up, without mentioning their girlfriend, that they're happy and not trying to "trade up"?

mahamageehad wrote: »

I think that if you try to get in shape for someone else it usually backfires? You can only work up the motivation when you know you're doing it for yourself!

Back on topic:
Real Woman- i would call Nigella Lawson one.
pic
as opposed to Kiera Knightly (poss NSFW)
pic
They are both very attractive women nonetheless.

On another note, if you Google real women the first results are all from the Dove Real Women campaign- is this where the name came from?
NSFW- underwear, dove real women

See I'd say Nigella Lawson is fat. I'd hate to look like her and wear those covering up black tent things she now favours. A few years ago she was on the borderline of fat and and acceptably curvy but now she's just gone towards the truly massive hips thing.

Keira Knightly is a young girl who has a certain look and bone structure and at her age, isn't going to be appealing to the older man who goes for the more maternalmatronly look like Nigella anyway.

I think the women in the Dove advert look pretty rough actually. Its not just their size, its their hair and skin as well. But Dove is a pretty cheap product and I wouldn't use it anyway. I don't see La Prairie using models who look like that. I guess it depends what friendship circles you move in. My friends and I like buying top quality brand jeans for example, and they just don't come in size 14 and wouldn't look right if they did. I've got a training partner of 47 and she's the same weight as she was when she was 16 and she looks absolutely fantastic, and way younger than most women her age. In fact I train with a woman of 52 who is the world champion for her age group and she looks pretty hot.

I actually know plenty of women who have figures like Cheryl Cole, but not that many who have figures like Kelly Brook or Christina Hendricks. And remember, as a female, I see them (semi)naked in the changing rooms!

coconut5 wrote: »

I never said anything about her weight. All I said was it's mean that her boyfriend is telling another girl that the only reason he's going out with her is because he doesn't have the balls to ask out better-looking women. Distorted also said she was constantly dieting, and all I meant was that the constant dieting is probably for his benefit, and he doesn't deserve that if that's how he feels about her.

Of the larger sized women I know, at work, girlfriends of guys I know, etc, they talk far more about their weight and diets than any of my other friends. Their Facebook status is always full of their diets, the exact ingredients of the meal they cooked that night, how many pounds they have lost and then suddenly it all goes quiet. Then a couple of weeks later it all starts again, but they always seem to stay much the same size, which they don't seem particularly happy with. You kind of wish they would just shut up and get on with actually doing stuff instead of trying to convince themselves their diets are working!

Distorted wrote: »

See I'd say Nigella Lawson is fat. I'd hate to look like her and wear those covering up black tent things she now favours. A few years ago she was on the borderline of fat and and acceptably curvy but now she's just gone towards the truly massive hips thing.

Keira Knightly is a young girl who has a certain look and bone structure and at her age, isn't going to be appealing to the older man who goes for the more maternalmatronly look like Nigella anyway.

I think the women in the Dove advert look pretty rough actually. Its not just their size, its their hair and skin as well. But Dove is a pretty cheap product and I wouldn't use it anyway. I don't see La Prairie using models who look like that. I guess it depends what friendship circles you move in. My friends and I like buying top quality brand jeans for example, and they just don't come in size 14 and wouldn't look right if they did. I've got a training partner of 47 and she's the same weight as she was when she was 16 and she looks absolutely fantastic, and way younger than most women her age. In fact I train with a woman of 52 who is the world champion for her age group and she looks pretty hot.

I actually know plenty of women who have figures like Cheryl Cole, but not that many who have figures like Kelly Brook or Christina Hendricks. And remember, as a female, I see them (semi)naked in the changing rooms!

I think Nigella just looks fat because she has massive tits.:D She's not exactly slim but I wouldn't go as far as calling her fat.

What's most offensive - to me, a man, admittedly - is the competing cheerleading for either side's definition of 'real women'. Different sized women can be very attractive and the only fatness/skinniness issue should be that which is medically quantifiable, that is: seriously overweight or underweight. All else is preference and more people than you think are catholic in their body preferences.

And some of the comments about people and their weight here just make the posters look like morons, although given the posters in question, that merely serves as affirmation to me rather than breaking news.

I hate the phrase "Real Women". Being perfectly honest I think it's just a phrase coined by overweight women to try and make them feel better about themselves. I'm 5 3", a size 8 and just under 8 stone. Does that mean I'm not "real"?