Real Woman - What are they?

maxwell smart · 08-11-2010 11:01AM #1

So I'm working from home this morning and Ireland AM is on in the kitchen. The usual old ****e on it with some fashion crap. But a certain phrase keeps being repeated "Real Women". So I turned around to see what sort of people these are, and guess what? They are overweight women!

This makes me laugh. If these are real woman, why are they not reading the news, presenting our breakfast programs etc. etc.

So, Real Woman, is this code for "Fat Women" ?

Please enlighten me! (and I guess they could do with some "enlightening" too):D

Biggins · 08-11-2010 11:03AM

They are avoiding you.
They don't like to let you see that your really the odd one.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 08-11-2010 11:04AM

Yes its pathetic. Would love to see them go to Russia and Eastern Europe and claim in-shape women are in fact ''fake women''

coconut5 · 08-11-2010 11:05AM

I think the term 'real women' comes from the idea that if you are a busy woman with a job and children, you don't have the time needed to keep fit and stay looking as trim as models or TV presenters or whatever.

I don't agree with this ideology, but that's where it comes from (in my opinion).

r3nu4l · 08-11-2010 11:05AM

Real women are those made from cells, tissues and organs as opposed to those made from rubber or plastic that are available from certain 'adult' establishments.

Pookah · 08-11-2010 11:05AM

That'd be my definition of a 'real woman', one with some modicum of meat on her bones. No skinny ass 'girls' for me.

In reality, though, I don't suppose the skinny ones are any less real.

BillShorey · 08-11-2010 11:08AM

It's an excuse for fat women to stay fat. They're lazy and like to think of themselves as "not having the time" to keep in shape because they're "real women" but truth be told they're just a bunch of lazy fat cranks who don't tend to be in any way good looking.

Good looking girls with meat on their bones are generally referred to as things like Curvacious or voluptuous.

Finally, **** you Gok Wan for getting fat women to dress skimpier. Put it away porky.

orourkeda · 08-11-2010 11:10AM

It's definitely code for something.

The "fat chicks" suggestion mightn't be a million miles from the truth.

Political correctness gone mad. We cant even call fat birds fat chicks anymore.

AnonoBoy · 08-11-2010 11:12AM

I always presumed 'Real Women' were the ones that didn't come with a foot pump and puncture repair kit.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 08-11-2010 11:12AM

BillShorey wrote: »

It's an excuse for fat women to stay fat. They're lazy and like to think of themselves as "not having the time" to keep in shape because they're "real women" but truth be told they're just a bunch of lazy fat cranks who don't tend to be in any way good looking.

Good looking girls with meat on their bones are generally referred to as things like Curvacious or voluptuous.

Finally, **** you Gok Wan for getting fat women to dress skimpier. Put it away porky.

No, no. If someone tells you they're curvy they're most likely overweight. If they say voluptuous you log out right there and then unless you have a feeder fetish

Lando Griffin · 08-11-2010 11:13AM

If it was on a real program on a real television station then it might hold some weight.
But people who have babies are most probably real women.

orourkeda · 08-11-2010 11:13AM

BillShorey wrote: »

It's an excuse for fat women to stay fat. They're lazy and like to think of themselves as "not having the time" to keep in shape because they're "real women" but truth be told they're just a bunch of lazy fat cranks who don't tend to be in any way good looking.

Good looking girls with meat on their bones are generally referred to as things like Curvacious or voluptuous.

Finally, **** you Gok Wan for getting fat women to dress skimpier. Put it away porky.

Gok **** as he should now be known

stovelid · 08-11-2010 11:17AM

Not these ones:

http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/article/905/905752/weird-science-gets-weirder-20080826092639334_640w.jpg

Rocket19 · 08-11-2010 11:20AM

It's all part of the 21rst century backlash against the skinny girl.
There is an obvious preference for thin women in the media/celebrity circles but in fairness, it's not just that. People in every day life are sooo prejudiced towards fat people. And really, is it seriously any of their business? :rolleyes:

Women do have to put up with a lot of shít and for many the rail thin 'ideal' just isn't realistic. There's definitly a pressure there.
I'm am a size 6/8 and I still feel fat sometimes. If someone super skinny is in my presence. ha

The term 'real women' really shouldn't apply to fat people...but most people understand that it's just a euphamism.
I accept that and it doesn't bother me. The preference is still for skinny...that's not likely to change.
If the term makes someone feel better about themselves, then it's fine by me.

coconut5 · 08-11-2010 11:26AM

I think people are really harsh on fat people because it's an obvious weakness. It's pack mentality. It's in our nature.

I don't think there's any backlash against the skinny girl. It's more desired than ever to be thin, if you ask me.

biko · 08-11-2010 11:29AM

Sure why not? "A real man" usually means fat guy with greasy hair

Pookah · 08-11-2010 11:32AM

biko wrote: »

Sure why not? "A real man" usually means fat guy with greasy hair

I've often heard ladies refer to muscular or heavy-set types, as real man, as opposed to the slimmer version.

Not sure about the greasy hair, though.

up for anything · 08-11-2010 11:33AM

'Real Women' are the millions of women who don't appear on the catwalks in haute couture fashion shows in Milan or on the pages of Hello/OK/Cosmo etc magazines. The phrase was probably coined by people who didn't want to see the ordinary women ending up with multiple eating disorders attempting to look like 6' tall, 5st super models.

Now it has become a jellyfish compliment. Silly cow Cheryl used that phrase about one of the contestants in X Factor, probably Mary, only recently. Cheryl Cole is not a real woman. The phrase real women is now used to describe overweight women rather than your mothers, wives, daughters, sisters, neighbours etc.

SugarHigh · 08-11-2010 11:34AM

I think the soft approach simply doesn't work with fat people, I post on a fitness forum and a lot of the ex-fatties say it was the abuse that motivated them. There was a show on c4 a few weeks where they had two trainers one who took a harsh approach and one who took a soft one, the harsh one got their client to lose more weight in 1 week than the other did in 6.

Inb4 but if you deal with the elitism problems first you just put it back on. That's just day time tv nonsense spouted by Oprah who is constantly putting back on the weight. If you lose the weigh through gruelling effort you won't put it back on because you don't want to go through that again and if you will always be improving your fitness which gives you constant motivation.

Distorted · 08-11-2010 11:37AM

Rocket19 wrote: »

The term 'real women' really shouldn't apply to fat people...but most people understand that it's just a euphamism.

I get a bit fed up with the "real women" thing. I get particularly annoyed at the fuss over Christina Hendricks form Mad Men with her two melons on show all the time and everyone wittering on about how a real woman is much more attractive than so-called "skinny women" at size 8.

Guess what? I'm a size 8/10, and I look way more attractive and get way more male attention than when I was a size 12/14. I'm also happier and healthier. Maybe if I was a size 4/6 I would have lost my curves, but its not exactly a worry at a healthy size 8/10.

I don't believe they're talking about "real women" any more than the fact they're talking about women with middle aged spread who don't have time to exercise and who struggle to control their weight, but are trying to make themselves happier. But please don't do it at the expense of us who have willpower and do sport!

And I don't call fat people "big" either!

SugarHigh · 08-11-2010 11:43AM

up for anything wrote: »

Cheryl Cole is not a real woman.

Lol in what way?

Rocket19 · 08-11-2010 11:44AM

coconut5 wrote: »

I think people are really harsh on fat people because it's an obvious weakness. It's pack mentality. It's in our nature.

I don't think there's any backlash against the skinny girl. It's more desired than ever to be thin, if you ask me.

By backlash I mean the whole "skinny bitch" thing. It's kind of acceptable to berate thin people.
Seems it's ok to grab my shoulder or hip bone or something and say "ughh your bones are sticking out" (they don't) or "that's scary" (it's not). I'm constantly told i'm too skinny when I know that i'm not. I've had random girls grab my wrists and be like "ahh disgusting".
It is always, always, always done by overweight/slight overweight women. Imagine grabbing a fat woman and doing the same...you'd be slaughtered!

It doesn't bother me because i'm pretty confident. But the double standard is annoying. Why bring me down to make yourself feel better? Pfffft.

SugarHigh · 08-11-2010 11:48AM

Distorted wrote: »

Guess what? I'm a size 8/10, and I look way more attractive and get way more male attention than when I was a size 12/14. I'm also happier and healthier. Maybe if I was a size 4/6 I would have lost my curves, but its not exactly a worry at a healthy size 8/10.!

But I bet they would say otherwise if you asked them even though their actions tell the true story. Men just say they prefer bigger women because they think it is the right thing to say.

8/10 is around ideal some women smaller than that do look really pretty though but it depends on your frame. The amount of people who have a frame that is naturally bigger than 8/10 is pretty rare so it doesn't exactly require starving yourself to get down so I really don't see their being a valid excuse for not doing it. It's the natural size for the vast majority of women yet it's smaller than average so really it's just down to laziness if you are struggling to slim down.

I think fat people just encourage each other to stay fat with all this real women bollocks.

SugarHigh · 08-11-2010 11:51AM

Rocket19 wrote: »

By backlash I mean the whole "skinny bitch" thing. It's kind of acceptable to berate thin people.
Seems it's ok to grab my shoulder or hip bone or something and say "ughh your bones are sticking out" (they don't) or "that's scary" (it's not). I'm constantly told i'm too skinny when I know that i'm not. I've had random girls grab my wrists and be like "ahh disgusting".
It is always, always, always done by overweight/slight overweight women. Imagine grabbing a fat woman and doing the same...you'd be slaughtered!

It doesn't bother me because i'm pretty confident. But the double standard is annoying. Why bring me down to make yourself feel better? Pfffft.

The amount of effort they put into bringing down skinny women and comforting each other(making excuses) would be better spent just losing the extra weight.

coconut5 · 08-11-2010 11:52AM

SugarHigh wrote: »

The amount of people who have a frame that is naturally bigger than 8/10 is pretty rare so it doesn't exactly require starving yourself to get down so I really don't see their being a valid excuse for not doing it.

Are you actually being serious? That is definitely not true. Height has a huge part to play in dress size, which is conveniently ignored by a lot of people. That's why so many women who are a size 12 and are perfectly healthy and look lovely feel like they are massive when they aren't.

thee glitz · 08-11-2010 11:53AM

A real woman - one with so many imperfections they may actually
entertain the idea of having a relationship with you.

biko · 08-11-2010 11:53AM

Pookah wrote: »

I've often heard ladies refer to muscular or heavy-set types, as real man, as opposed to the slimmer version.

Not sure about the greasy hair, though.

Sorry, I meant when "real men" refer to themselves.

biko · 08-11-2010 11:54AM

Btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1XxILVnt1w

starbelgrade · 08-11-2010 11:58AM

SugarHigh wrote: »

But I bet they would say otherwise if you asked them even though their actions tell the true story. Men just say they prefer bigger women because they think it is the right thing to say.

8/10 is around ideal some women smaller than that do look really pretty though but it depends on your frame. The amount of people who have a frame that is naturally bigger than 8/10 is pretty rare so it doesn't exactly require starving yourself to get down so I really don't see their being a valid excuse for not doing it. It's the natural size for the vast majority of women yet it's smaller than average so really it's just down to laziness if you are struggling to slim down.

I think fat people just encourage each other to stay fat with all this real women bollocks.

Why are you seemingly so obsessed with what size women are?

Did you used to be a little fat girl?

Distorted · 08-11-2010 12:02PM

coconut5 wrote: »

Are you actually being serious? That is definitely not true. Height has a huge part to play in dress size, which is conveniently ignored by a lot of people. That's why so many women who are a size 12 and are perfectly healthy and look lovely feel like they are massive when they aren't.

I'm not convinced. Maybe above 5 feet 9 it does but I've plenty female friends around the 5 feet 7/5 feet 8 mark who are the same clothes size as me and don't look particularly skinny. We all do a lot of sports and it means your body is more toned. It doesn't really compare with someone who the most exercise they get is walking round the shops. People are different shapes, obviously. Some people for example do have naturally skinny legs and arms and have a very skinny look but I don't accept that the way the current brainwashing seems to be going - that size 12/14 is normal and size 8 is skinny. Its just because people generally lead such sedentary lives now. No-one needs to carry extra weight.

Clothes sizes have also got more generous. I'm pretty sure I'd have been a standard size 10 20 years ago. Now I mainly get size 8 and sometimes size 6, and theres no way I'm a size 6! Some shops have massive clothing sizes!

mahamageehad · 08-11-2010 12:05PM

I thought real women referred to women that were sexy, but curvy? Girls with natural hourglass figures- boobs, hips and arse. Size doesn't have to come into it, it's all about proportion. I would never use real woman to refer to fat people.

hmmm.. i suppose real woman, to me, is the difference between a hot curvy lady confident in her body and a skeletal woman always on a diet.

Real Woman - What are they?

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