Garda Recruitment - Applying to join An Garda Siochana

hi I'm 19 and have just finished my leaving cert I've always wanted to join ags.I didn't go onto third level because I want to join ags at a young age and if I done a 3 year degree I would miss the upcoming campaign.so I now work full time in Tesco waiting for recruitment to be announced.my question is would I be an appealing candidate as I work full time and not drawing the dole unlike other people my age and I play Gaa and I'm involved in charity work and have relatives in ags would all those make up for a not going on to third level education?

longhalloween wrote: »

Id say that anyone like us who hasnt yet applied for the AGS will be waiting a very long time to get into templemore.

I had high hopes for this campaign a few months back but with the way things are panning out im looking for an alternative career.

stay positive if its meant for you it wont go by yah! good things come to those who wait

keith101 wrote: »

Hi Popejohn,

My advice to you (MAYBE TOO LATE) would have been start your three year course. What if you didn't get in first time around and another campaign didn't start for year? you would nearly be finished your degree/cert!

What if you were a successful candidate but each of the stages were months apart which is likely, finally do you your PCT and med but have few months or a year left in college then apply for maybe a defer or two, common enough.

Not only would you have a ball of a time living the student life but if successful in joining AGS you would be entitled to increments depending on your qualification.

Now maybe college isn't your thing and thats fine, but i think it was a mistake
not to go because your banking on applying for AGS and getting to templemore within 3yrs.

On the upside your working full-time and like you said not on the "dole", so fair play.Best of luck when you do apply ill be in the same boat with you.

PS, If your not "in the system" this time next year, try college you never know you might like it.:D

Good advise.

dont put your live on hold waiting for ags. i applied in early 08, as did a good few others on here, we've everything done ready to go but its possible it could be early 2011 or after. thats 3 years, and things arent really speeding up these days.

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The public sector hiring freeze is to be temporarily lifted in order to allow for the recruitment of approximately 100 new trainees to An Garda Síochána, the Irish police force. Advertisements were placed in the media last week and information is also available on www.publicjobs.ie This recruitment is necessary in order to keep the numbers of gardaí at what the Minister for Justice and Law Reform (which is his new title as of June 1st 2010), Dermot Ahern, described as “approved levels”. Senior gardaí, along with other senior employees within the public sector, have recently retired, and continue to retire, in significant numbers in order to avoid changes to their pension entitlements which are forthcoming. In 2009, for example, roughly 800 members of An Garda Síochána took early retirement.
This mass exodus from the upper ranks of An Garda Síochána is cause for some concern. While another exception to the current embargo on public sector promotions has been allowed within An Garda Síochána to fill the senior positions vacated, it is still the case that with the retiring senior members of the force goes a wealth of experience and intelligence which could never be clearly expressed or captured within the Pulse information system or directly passed on to more junior members. The worry is that the government’s interest in lowering the public sector pay bill may impact negatively on its efforts to control crime.
And what of those coming into the system? Conor Lally in the Irish Times reported that the incoming recruits will be given full garda powers after a shorter period of time than was previously the case. This change in training methodology is a result of the recommendations included in the Garda Síochána Training and Development Review Group Report of June 2009.
Although other reports into Garda training had been carried out in the past, this Report was the first of its breadth and remit since the inception of An Garda Síochána. The Committee that created the Report included persons with particular academic expertise in education, civil servants from the Departments of Finance and Justice, persons with private industry experience in human resources, and of course senior members of An Garda Síochána. The Group was chaired by Pat McLoughlin, formerly of the Health Service Executive.
Probationer, or trainee, gardaí undertake a 2 year BA in Policing Studies, which in the past was delivered in a 5-phased manner consisting of some time in the Garda College in Templemore, and some time in the Garda Station. Under that structure, probationer gardaí were not given garda powers, or “attested as members of An Garda Síóchána”, until they had completed 58 weeks of training. The new structure of delivering probationer training will see them gain full garda powers after just 30 weeks training. Rather than the previous 5 phases, the programme will from now on be delivered in 3 phases as set out below:
Phase I: 30 weeks at the Garda College in Templemore, followed by 2 weeks annual leave. Following this phase probationers will be ”attested” as members of An Garda Síochana.
Phase II: 63 weeks in an operational setting, with 2 weeks annual leave. The Report recommended that during this phase students should “undergo three stages of supported experiential development in a nominated training station with full police powers.”
Phase III: 2 weeks of exam preparation conducted at station level; 1 week of examinations at regional examination centres; 2 weeks annual leave (which allows time for corrections); 2 weeks in the Garda College, during which probationers will prepare for graduation and undergo some final assessments to ensure uniformity of academic standards.
The Report noted that there are different models of police training in existence throughout other jurisdictions. In the UK and US models, the focus is on practical training following a brief period of basic skills training, while the Continental European approach is more closely tied to degree-level education. The new training regime appears to aim for a compromise position between the two.
There has been little academic research on garda training in this jurisdiction, but perhaps the new training regime will give rise to new research opportunities. It is important sometimes to step back from the academic and legal issues in the criminal justice system in order to consider the personnel involved, how they have gotten there, how they were trained and so on. It should be noted, however, that no matter how good probationer training may be under this new approach, the loss at the top of the structure is still likely to be deeply felt.

Question 25: To ask the Minister for Justice and Law Reform the number of persons recruited to An Garda Síochána since the Minister announced the commencement of a new recruitment campaign on 4 June 2010; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [35353/10]



Dermot Ahern (Minister, Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform; Louth, Fianna Fail) In June 2010, 106 Garda Trainees were attested as members of An Garda Síochána and the strength of the force, on the latest date for which figures are readily available, was 14,615. An Garda Síochána is of course subject to the moratorium on recruitment and appointments in the public service and the purpose of the present Garda recruitment campaign is to establish a panel of approved candidates who will be available to meet Garda recruitment needs in the future. Applicants who are currently on a panel and have gone through the medical, physical and character vetting procedures, and are available, will be offered positions as Garda Trainees, in strict order of where they were placed on the panel, upon the resumption of recruitment.

The most frustrating thing is they go on as if there was a Recruitment drive launched!. It was only advertised for people to register interest in becoming a member of AGS and not a recruitment drive as they think. Pay these incompetent clowns in government €112,000 a year and they can't determine between a recruitment drive and an invitation to register an interest. What hope have we got people!

blake101 wrote: »

Hey guys, I was thinking about applying for the reserve with the idea of eventually becoming a full time guard (ill apply for any new campaign but my chances are slim)

Anyway there are two details about me and im unsure if there'll be a help or hindrance. First of all i work in the oireachtas although i am NOT a civil servant. Ive been working there for five years but for a sub contractor.

Secondly i have a black belt in kickboxing. There seem to be two schools of thought about this. First is that it might be seen as a negative in the sense that they would prefer a blank slate in this repect and would prefer a candidate with no experience (especially kickboxing)

Id be of the opinion that it would be a positive (disipline, fitness, etc)

Any ideas??

Get us some inside info about an intake and we'll help you:D

There's no reason why either of these would be a hindrance. Self defence is always a good thing for anybody to have and so is a job so don't be worrying. You should actually use the fact that you have a black belt in self defence for your interview.