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Can someone give me one good reason...

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  • #52
    Snakeblood
    Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    DHYNZY wrote: »
    in respect for our Lord.

    But he's not my lord. :mad: I follow Barry from Eastenders.


  • #53
    Snakeblood
    Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Theres also a million reasons you shouldn't drink at all. Your post smacks of smart arsedness. It doesn't suit you.

    Your post wasn't engaging with what he's saying.


    Him saying 'Why can't I'

    Vs

    You saying 'Why would you want to'

    Why he wants to has nothing to do with it. It's not really your business why he would want to, but it's everyone's business about why he can't, because it affects everyone. Why he wants a drink doesn't affect you in the slightest.


  • #54
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    southsiderosie wrote: »

    There is no religious reason to restrict alcohol (in Catholicism anyway); the fact that you can pretty much drink 24-7 in a Catholic country like Spain is testament to that.

    It's not a religious thing: it's a control thing...


  • #55
    amen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭amen


    what everabout Sunday, Saturday morning is worse. I have two young kids, always up early on Saturday so we do our weekly shop early on Saturday morning. Now if we have visitors coming we have to wait until 10:30am to buy a bottle of wine. Crazy idea. What real difference does it make to the public if I can buy at 10:00 or 10:30 am?

    Of course if I own a pub it means I can be open at 10:00 and have the punters in instead of going to Aldi. But for me its just an inconveiniance which I am sure it is for most people.

    What really gets me is the pubs that allow you to preorder and pay for your take out drink and if you don't want it you get your money back at the end of the day


  • #56
    flash1080
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭flash1080


    dan1895 wrote: »
    Quick story. Went to the cinema after work the other night, came out of the movie fancying one or two scoops but was still in the work gear so really didn't want to go to the pub. A few cans are the answer, or so I thought until I realised it was 5 past 10.
    5 past bloody 10 and I can't buy a can to enjoy in the privacy of my own home.
    A few weeks ago it was still bright at 5 past bloody 10!!!!
    Great story.

    Snakeblood wrote: »
    Your post wasn't engaging with what he's saying.


    Him saying 'Why can't I'

    Vs

    You saying 'Why would you want to'

    Why he wants to has nothing to do with it. It's not really your business why he would want to, but it's everyone's business about why he can't, because it affects everyone. Why he wants a drink doesn't affect you in the slightest.
    You're wrong there, "why he can't" doesn't affect me in the slightest.


  • #57
    Snakeblood
    Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    flash1080 wrote: »
    You're wrong there, "why he can't" doesn't affect me in the slightest.

    Actually, it does. Whether or not you choose to try to get a drink at that time, it's still your freedom that is reduced for no reason.

    Plus of course, you're here responding, so it obviously affected you to the point you're prepared to try and change it to some other question rather than either answer what he asked, or move on.


  • #58
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    The government could make it available 24/7, however they should raise the price of alcohol to cover the cost to the state - the cost to the health system, anti-social behaviour and close the Dáil bar as we can't afford overpaid drunk politicians.


  • #59
    maggy_thatcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭maggy_thatcher


    Min wrote: »
    The government could make it available 24/7, however they should raise the price of alcohol to cover the cost to the state - the cost to the health system, anti-social behaviour and close the Dáil bar as we can't afford overpaid drunk politicians.
    1. There is no evidence that permitting alcohol sales 24/7 would result in an increase in the consumption of alcohol.
    2. Rather than increasing the cost to cover the cost antisocial behaviour, wouldn't it be better to increase the penalties associated with that behaviour? Percentage income based penalties / punitive community service might encourage people to behave themselves. This way we can catch the anti-social non-drinkers without impacting the social drinkers.
    3. What kind of "health" costs are you talking about? The number one killer in this country is heart disease -- shouldn't we increase the cost of fatty foods before picking on alcohol yet again?


  • #60
    JohnathanM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    Min wrote: »
    The government could make it available 24/7, however they should raise the price of alcohol to cover the cost to the state - the cost to the health system, anti-social behaviour...

    Drinkers in this country already pay a stupid amount in comparison with general EU rates. Banging up the price hasn't got us anywhere so far, and I don't see how that will suddenly change in the future. The whole culture is a mess, and allowing somebody to buy booze after their night shift on a Friday isn't going to make it worse. IMHO, if you want a solution we should look to change the culture, and improve the policing of and punishment for drunken behaviour.


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  • #61
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    maggy_thatcher wrote: »
    1. There is no evidence that permitting alcohol sales 24/7 would result in an increase in the consumption of alcohol.
    2. Rather than increasing the cost to cover the cost antisocial behaviour, wouldn't it be better to increase the penalties associated with that behaviour? Percentage income based penalties / punitive community service might encourage people to behave themselves. This way we can catch the anti-social non-drinkers without impacting the social drinkers.
    3. What kind of "health" costs are you talking about? The number one killer in this country is heart disease -- shouldn't we increase the cost of fatty foods before picking on alcohol yet again?

    1. I am not saying it would lead to increased consumption, but do we want alcoholics having 24/7 access to it? I had an alcoholic come to my house begging for alcohol one morning, it is a terrible addiction and can ruin lives, I don't mind restrictions on it's sales, it is not banned so I don't see the problem.
    2. What amount is a social drink, it doesn't take much drink to be too much. A higher price might help make a social drink a bit healthier.
    3. Excessive alcohol consumption affects the heart and liver. http://www.irishheart.ie/iopen24/alcohol-heart-t-47.html


  • #62
    maggy_thatcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭maggy_thatcher


    Min wrote: »
    1. I am not saying it would lead to increased consumption, but do we want alcoholics having 24/7 access to it? I had an alcoholic come to my house begging for alcohol one morning, it is a terrible addiction and can ruin lives, I don't mind restrictions on it's sales, it is not banned so I don't see the problem.
    2. What amount is a social drink, it doesn't take much drink to be too much. A higher price might help make a social drink a bit healthier.
    3. Excessive alcohol consumption affects the heart and liver. http://www.irishheart.ie/iopen24/alcohol-heart-t-47.html
    1. There's this magical thing called personal responsibility. Putting completely arbitrary restrictions on the sales of goods (e.g time of day, day of year) just because you happen to not want to purchase during the embargoed timeframe is selfish.
    2. Ireland already has one of the highest drink prices...so what makes you think increasing it higher will make the slightest bit of difference?
    3. As does sugar and fat; but there are no restrictions on those - so why pick one arbitrary chemical without enforcing it on others as well?


  • #63
    Snakeblood
    Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Min wrote: »
    1. I am not saying it would lead to increased consumption, but do we want alcoholics having 24/7 access to it? I had an alcoholic come to my house begging for alcohol one morning, it is a terrible addiction and can ruin lives, I don't mind restrictions on it's sales, it is not banned so I don't see the problem.
    2. What amount is a social drink, it doesn't take much drink to be too much. A higher price might help make a social drink a bit healthier.
    3. Excessive alcohol consumption affects the heart and liver. http://www.irishheart.ie/iopen24/alcohol-heart-t-47.html

    I just want consistency in opening hours. It's madness that a pub can sell booze at a time when a shop can't.

    I don't particularly want people able to get booze at 3 or 4 in the morning, as you can be pretty sure at that point they should have had enough, and the people who aren't just trying to get more smashed at that time are statistically insignificant.


  • #64
    The Agogo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭The Agogo


    It's funny because After Hours are complaining about the After Hours.


  • #65
    FoxT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,204 ✭✭✭FoxT


    A pack of brasserie? I am quite happy to buy my weekend supply of alcohol on a saturday -but lingerie? No way Jose - should be available 24/7!

    - FoxT


  • #66
    FoxT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,204 ✭✭✭FoxT


    The liquor laws in this country are , indeed, retarded.


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  • #67
    Turpentine
    Registered Users Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Turpentine


    up for anything wrote: »
    Why would you want to buy drink on a Sunday morning! :D Some people just can't get enough.

    Because sometimes Sunday morning is still part of Saturday night. Yes, some people just can't get enough.


  • #68
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    There is no good reason that those planks in the Dail do anything. Stupid outdated godfearing bolloxology as usual. Something else to complain about I suppose.

    Sundays til 12 I'm usually in bed anyways. I know I'm "supposed" to go to four Latin masses in a row and then flagellate myself, but I'm just too lazy.


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