Can someone give me one good reason...

abouttobebanned · 03-10-2010 12:52pm #1

...why we can't buy drink before 12 on a Sunday?

In years to come we'll be saying to our kids "You know, back in the olden days when people actually cared what the church said and 1 in 50 people respected politicians, we couldn't buy drink before 12 on a sunday or after 10 O Clock"

"Really Dad?"

"Really."

"You're shitting me"

"I wish I was. You could go into an off licence at 9:30, drunk to the gills, and buy 24 cans of lager and 5 bottles of vodka...but a sober person couldn't buy a bottle of wine at 10:05 or a pack of brasserie in their sunday morning shop in Aldi"

"Did you have aldi's back then dad?"

"Oh we did son, but they're not the mega stores that you see today"

I'm not going to have another rant at the government...but...even if Fianna Gail got in, there still wouldn't be anyone with some common sense running the country. And it's not all about drink, we know there's a million things that they've fucked up.

phasers · 03-10-2010 12:55pm

because when people are whining about not being able to buy drink, they're not thinking about how fcuked the country is in every other respect.

Bazzo · 03-10-2010 12:56pm

Originally because it was the sabbath. Now because the government is trying to slowly but surely close the window of time in which you can buy drink 'til eventually we're all forced to swarm into the offie between 6pm and 7pm to load up on our weekly booze.

Seriously though they're not going to bring it in line with the other days in the foreseeable future.

up for anything · 03-10-2010 12:58pm

Why would you want to buy drink on a Sunday morning!

Some people just can't get enough.

Son Of A Vidic · 03-10-2010 12:59pm

Bazzo wrote: »

Originally because it was the sabbath.

Black Sabbath behind drink restrictions? You learn something new everyday.

Mark200 · 03-10-2010 1:03pm

up for anything wrote: »

Why would you want to buy drink on a Sunday morning! Some people just can't get enough.

I don't think it matters why someone would want to... but why aren't we allowed to?

meditraitor · 03-10-2010 1:04pm

Its because alcohol is the most abused and problem drug in our society, access is and should be controlled tightly.

Oh and the government are planks......

DHYNZY · 03-10-2010 1:05pm

Mark200 wrote: »

I don't think it matters why someone would want to... but why aren't we allowed to?

in respect for our Lord.

krudler · 03-10-2010 1:05pm

up for anything wrote: »

Why would you want to buy drink on a Sunday morning! Some people just can't get enough.

Why not? I have to wash the taste of that dead hooker out of my mouth with something.

Bazzo · 03-10-2010 1:05pm

medicman2009 wrote: »

Black Sabbath behind drink restrictions? You learn something new everyday.

:pac:

Wertz · 03-10-2010 1:08pm

Because people should be at mass, not sitting about boozing.

abouttobebanned · 03-10-2010 1:09pm

But more and more people are now doing their weekly shop on a Sunday morning.

Logical Fallacy · 03-10-2010 1:15pm

**** me lads, buy a few ****ing beers or bottles of what ever and keep em in the fridge.

Problem solved.

ascanbe · 03-10-2010 1:17pm

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

**** me lads, buy a few ****ing beers or bottles of what ever and keep em in the fridge.

Problem solved.

I think you're missing the point.

Min · 03-10-2010 1:19pm

I don't get this obsession with alcohol.

abouttobebanned · 03-10-2010 1:19pm

Yeah lads. **** me! Why do people ever need to buy things in the shop...just buy everything and keep it in the fridge. Problem solved! (don't eat or drink them though in case you run out)

abouttobebanned · 03-10-2010 1:21pm

Min wrote: »

I don't get this obsession with alcohol.

You're missing the point too. Regardless of what it is...what right does a government of drunks have to tell us when and when we cannot buy something.

krudler · 03-10-2010 1:22pm

DHYNZY wrote: »

in respect for our Lord.

Well its easy for him, being able to make wine appear when he wanted.

Wertz · 03-10-2010 1:24pm

abouttobebanned wrote: »

But more and more people are now doing their weekly shop on a Sunday morning.

Disgraceful really. They should be indoctrinating their children and themselves into the glorious ways of the catholic church. They'll all burn in hell.

Seriously, the licensing laws aren't there for the benefit of the consumer...or for the benefit of the shops...they're there for the benefit of the politician and the priest. Same can be said for many other laws.

Logical Fallacy · 03-10-2010 1:24pm

ascanbe wrote: »

I think you're missing the point.

Nope, i'm really not.

People know the hours they can buy booze but just want to have a ****ing moan about it as if some basic human right is being infringed upon because, guess what, you can't buy it 24/7.

I'm not missing the point at all, i'm just saying, work around it. Have a few tins in the fridge.

End.

Wolfe Tone · 03-10-2010 1:25pm

Why would you want to buy a drink on a sunday morning anyways?

Wertz · 03-10-2010 1:29pm

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Nope, i'm really not.

People know the hours they can buy booze but just want to have a ****ing moan about it as if some basic human right is being infringed upon because, guess what, you can't buy it 24/7.

I'm not missing the point at all, i'm just saying, work around it. Have a few tins in the fridge.

End.

So what if said people have been on the sauce the night before and all that stash has been depleted?
What of someone who doesn't nrmally drink but has visitors coming round unexpectedly for dinner and wants to buy a bottle of wine early on a sunday...

The OP doesn't see why the sunday morning ban should be in effect...there was a time in Ireland when there were those who thought it shoudl have been, many of the public included...we are trying to move away from that, become a more secular society governed by rules of good sense., not those that protect some out moded opinions of moral and religious grounds.

[edit] Or are we?

abouttobebanned · 03-10-2010 1:29pm

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Why would you want to buy a drink on a sunday morning anyways?

Maybe you're having a BBQ on Sunday evening and you're getting all the stuff for it in the morning.

Maybe you're doing your weekly shop on a sunday morning.

Maybe the Ryder cup is on for the afternoon.

Maybe there's a million reasons and you should stop asking stupid questions.

Micky Dolenz · 03-10-2010 1:32pm

I think it is daft too. I went shopping one Sunday morning and thought, I'd buy a box of beer for the fridge, i thought wrong. Damn laws.

flash1080 · 03-10-2010 1:33pm

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Maybe you're having a BBQ on Sunday evening and you're getting all the stuff for it in the morning.

Maybe you're doing your weekly shop on a sunday morning.

Maybe the Ryder cup is on for the afternoon.

Maybe there's a million reasons and you should stop asking stupid questions.

Maybe you could buy drink at some other time other than Sunday morning.

Min · 03-10-2010 1:33pm

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Maybe you're having a BBQ on Sunday evening and you're getting all the stuff for it in the morning.

Maybe you're doing your weekly shop on a sunday morning.

Maybe the Ryder cup is on for the afternoon.

Maybe there's a million reasons and you should stop asking stupid questions.

You don't need alcohol to enjoy any of those events.

Wolfe Tone · 03-10-2010 1:34pm

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Maybe you're having a BBQ on Sunday evening and you're getting all the stuff for it in the morning.

Maybe you're doing your weekly shop on a sunday morning.

Maybe the Ryder cup is on for the afternoon.

Maybe there's a million reasons and you should stop asking stupid questions.

Theres also a million reasons you shouldn't drink at all. Your post smacks of smart arsedness. It doesn't suit you.

Ledger · 03-10-2010 1:48pm

Min wrote: »

You don't need alcohol to enjoy any of those events.

he never said you needed alcohol. But if you want a beer while enjoying those events you should be allowed to buy it on a sunday morn like you can every other morn of the week.

Fighting Irish · 03-10-2010 1:55pm

meditraitor wrote: »

Its because alcohol is the most abused and problem drug in our society, access is and should be controlled tightly.

Oh and the government are planks......

and so are you

Fighting Irish · 03-10-2010 1:57pm

flash1080 wrote: »

Maybe you could buy drink at some other time other than Sunday morning.

:rolleyes:

Min wrote: »

You don't need alcohol to enjoy any of those events.

:rolleyes:

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Theres also a million reasons you shouldn't drink at all. Your post smacks of smart arsedness. It doesn't suit you.

:rolleyes:

krudler · 03-10-2010 2:01pm

Min wrote: »

You don't need alcohol to enjoy any of those events.

Have you ever tried to watch golf sober?

Ledger · 03-10-2010 2:03pm

Playing golf sober is worse

JohnathanM · 03-10-2010 2:06pm

OP is right. Shops should be allowed to sell alcohol at any time they like, and restricting access is not the solution to problems of its abuse. As others pointed out, people can always just stockpile. Down in my neck of the woods, the pubs open about mass time so in any case the only control on availability before noon on Sunday is where you can buy it. You'd almost think there was some sort of pub-owning vested interest at work...

flash1080 · 03-10-2010 2:10pm

Fighting Irish wrote: »

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

ascanbe · 03-10-2010 2:13pm

flash1080 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

flash1080 · 03-10-2010 2:19pm

ascanbe wrote: »

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

lulz

southsiderosie · 03-10-2010 2:28pm

Can you buy cigarettes in Ireland before noon on Sunday? Just curious.

maggy_thatcher · 03-10-2010 2:31pm

southsiderosie wrote: »

Can you buy cigarettes in Ireland before noon on Sunday? Just curious.

Cigarettes don't have any nanny-state rules dictating when they can be purchased.

the_syco · 03-10-2010 3:01pm

I'd actually be tempted to stock up drink at 9am, and wait at the checkout until ten.

maggy_thatcher · 03-10-2010 3:03pm

the_syco wrote: »

I'd actually be tempted to buy stock up drink at 9am, and wait at the checkout until ten.

Why? All your doing then is inconveniencing both you and the shop, not the people responsible for the rule (the government & the lobbyists who want us to live by their moral code).

JohnathanM · 03-10-2010 3:14pm

maggy_thatcher wrote: »

Why? All your doing then is inconveniencing both you and the shop, not the people responsible for the rule (the government & the lobbyists who want us to live by their moral code).

Not necessarily. He will still have a couple of hours left to wait, so he could just hole up in a cozy corner and start drinking. You know, work up a nice buzz for the drive home.

strobe · 03-10-2010 3:19pm

Yeah it's fairly stupid and pointless alright. Non-catholics filling out the census properly instead of writing Catholic because that's what they've always done would be a help. These nonsense laws are in place in a large part because when the politicians look at the census they see 3.5 million catholics/voters and won't risk alienating that many potential voters by setting themselves in opposition to the church. There is no chance in hell there are that many actual Catholics in this country.

So when the next census comes around sit down and think, first about whether or not you are actually a catholic (research it to find out what that actually means, not what you guess it means) and secondly about the real tangible effect that the RCC being able to claim to have the loyalty of and influence over the hearts and minds of the majority of the voters in the country has on the formation of government policy.

Or learn how to home brew, that's good to.

rubadub · 03-10-2010 4:33pm

up for anything wrote: »

Why would you want to buy drink on a Sunday morning! Some people just can't get enough.

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Why would you want to buy a drink on a sunday morning anyways?

Many people like to go for a pint after work with their workmates. Contrary to the governments apparent understanding, not everybody in this country works 9-5 mon-friday. Some workers could be finished work early on sunday morning and fancy a pint, their waking/socialising hours could be very different from yours. Some publican might want to open his business to these customers, but our outdated laws make it illegal for him to do so.

The opening hour laws were brought in during world war 1 to ensure workers were productive. The war is long over but these ridiculous laws still survive.

Min wrote: »

I don't get this obsession with alcohol.

If it was illegal to buy/sell ketchup or cigarettes at certain times people would be questioning it too.

Min · 03-10-2010 4:42pm

krudler wrote: »

Have you ever tried to watch golf sober?

I am doing it now.

I don't need alcohol to enjoy it.

Diabhal Beag · 03-10-2010 4:44pm

This thread turned out exactly as I predicted

Kintarō Hattori · 03-10-2010 4:48pm

Min wrote: »

I don't get this obsession with alcohol.

Neither do I, as I basically don't drink but the restrictions on when you can buy are a joke.

storm2811 · 03-10-2010 4:52pm

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Theres also a million reasons you shouldn't drink at all. Your post smacks of smart arsedness. It doesn't suit you.

...

MUSSOLINI wrote:

Anyone else absolutely hammered now? You can still spell when you are drunk!

OutlawPete · 03-10-2010 5:13pm

People should be able to buy anything that is legal, WHENEVER the fcuk they want.

Ledger · 03-10-2010 5:19pm

This thread is about when you can buy drink. Not if you should drink or not. If you dont drink thats great for you, but dont come on here preaching your views to those of us who do enjoy a drink.

dan1895 · 03-10-2010 5:25pm

Quick story. Went to the cinema after work the other night, came out of the movie fancying one or two scoops but was still in the work gear so really didn't want to go to the pub. A few cans are the answer, or so I thought until I realised it was 5 past 10.
5 past bloody 10 and I can't buy a can to enjoy in the privacy of my own home.
A few weeks ago it was still bright at 5 past bloody 10!!!!

southsiderosie · 03-10-2010 6:25pm

Min wrote: »

I am doing it now.

I don't need alcohol to enjoy it.

I don't "NEED" alcohol to enjoy anything. But I'm an adult, and I see no reason why the government should restrict me from purchasing something that I have every legal right to buy.

There is no religious reason to restrict alcohol (in Catholicism anyway); the fact that you can pretty much drink 24-7 in a Catholic country like Spain is testament to that.

There is no health reason if cigarettes are available 24-7.

Excessive drinking is not an excuse, as the UK has proved: binge drinking went UP after alcohol sales were restricted.

Do I think the Irish have an unhealthy relationship with alcohol? Yes. However, I think they also have an unhealthy relationship with greasy salty horrible food, and I don't see anyone regulating kebab stands, curry chips, Taytos, or the million other items that contribute to obesity and unhealthiness.

The restrictions on the sale of alcohol are absurd, and should be repealed immediately.

Can someone give me one good reason...

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