Avoid public places in Europe

Stinicker · 03-10-2010 12:11am

Terry wrote: »

Due to the current hold up on three by-elections, I do not recognise our government as being democratically elected.

They were democratically elected, However as a result of the bye-election hold up they now have no democratic mandate to continue in office until they hold the bye-elections and the outcome is known. I think some Sinn Fein TD has a court case this month over it as it is unconstitutional what the Government are doing I think.

K-9 · 03-10-2010 12:25am

southsiderosie wrote: »

Hooray for Google!

Slightly more reticent than the OP and Sky, though still retarded.

03-10-2010 4:02am

Bjorn Bored. wrote: »

So let me get this straight, the American govt is warning its own citizens not to gather in public places in Europe for fear of being bombed?

WHAT ABOUT US POOR BLEEDIN EUROPEANS,DONT WE COUNT??

I suspect this message is aimed at Americans working in Europe, rather than at tourists. Americans abroad tend to all socialise together in a few select places (even in Ireland & UK), easy to spot and to target.

Well, that's a shortlist of several thousand venues to avoid.

Hopefully the police/gards have better luck than the UK police had with 7/7

Bonito · 03-10-2010 8:28am

Wetbench4 wrote: »

Could they not be a bit more specific? What next, be careful while travelling in the southern hemisphere? Is this the best their "intelligence" can do?

Hey, that cuts the chance of you being a dead bench by half!

old_aussie · 03-10-2010 8:47am

Min wrote: »

The Obama administration is to issue a warning to US citizens to avoid public places in Europe, it is is believed that a terrorist attack is imminent.

So says Sky News.

Last week the talk was about Mumbai style attacks in Europe. I wonder if this is what is expected.

Yes.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/british-brothers-behind-plot-to-terrorise-europe-2094515.html

Two British brothers based in Pakistan were at the heart of a plot to launch "Mumbai-style" terrorist attacks in Britain and other European countries, it was claimed yesterday.

One of the men, named as Abdul Jabbar, was killed earlier this month in a missile strike by an unmanned American drone as part of a series of attacks directly aimed at the organisers of the plan to stage co-ordinated killing sprees by groups of commandos in major European cities.

A Pakistani intelligence official said the two Britons had been tracked for nearly a year in North Waziristan, a lawless tribal region which has become a hub for Islamist militants, along with eight German citizens who were also involved with the al-Qa'ida-linked plot.

The men had been making phone calls to London and Germany to begin the process of activating the plot by finding accomplices in Europe, the official said. Western security sources said on Wednesday that the scheme had recently moved from being an aspiration to concrete planning and was "still active".

The Pakistani official, part of the team in charge of tracking the suspects, told the Associated Press: "They have been making calls to Germany and London. They have been talking about and looking for facilitators and logistics they need there to carry out terror attacks."

Intelligence on the plot first emerged late this summer following the arrest of a German national, Ahmed Sidiqui, 36, who was detained in Kabul in July and provided American interrogators with details of an attack on Britain, France and Germany being planned from Waziristan.

The information provided by Sidiqui was closely linked to a sharp rise in CIA drone attacks in the region last month aimed at disrupting the organisers of the plot, which was designed to mimic the bloody assault on Mumbai in 2008 by 10 Pakistani terrorists who killed nearly 170 people in a three-day rampage

Jabbar, who was believed to be less than 30 years old and who came from the Jhelum district in northern Pakistan, was killed on 8 September in one of 21 US missile strikes – the highest number of attacks in a single month in six years. The Foreign Office declined to give details on the death of the Briton, saying it did not discuss security matters. The fate of his brother is unknown.

Although Western security sources described the plot as "embryonic" and said attackers had not yet travelled to Europe, the Pakistani official warned against underestimating the suspects, who he said were acting with the support of al-Qa'ida and the Taliban in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The official said: "It does not mean that they are not capable of materialising their designs. They are very much working on it."
Counter-terrorism officials said the disclosure of the Mumbai-style plot proved that the threat from Islamist groups remained high.

bonerm · 03-10-2010 8:53am

Bjorn Bored. wrote: »

So let me get this straight, the American govt is warning its own citizens not to gather in public places in Europe for fear of being bombed?

WHAT ABOUT US POOR BLEEDIN EUROPEANS,DONT WE COUNT??

When was the last time you voted for Obama?

03-10-2010 8:53am

Is it wrong to be skeptical that 2 dead guys were terrorists?

I sometimes wonder how many announcements are there just to justify their jobs

Bonito · 03-10-2010 8:54am

bonerm wrote: »

When was the last time you voted for Obama?

Every single damn time that he ran for president! I've been backin' him from day one man!

alex73 · 03-10-2010 9:01am

Hilarious!!!... There are many places in the states that nobody should go to... Gun crime far higher there.

Europe for Gods sack is a large place... don't tell me they are organising a Terrorist attack in the dingle.

03-10-2010 9:02am

alex73 wrote: »

Europe for Gods sack

Yuck!!!

Bonito · 03-10-2010 9:07am

alex73 wrote: »

Hilarious!!!...

Terrorism is never funny. Unless it's cartoon terrorism but that's a different story.

There are many places in the states that nobody should go to... Gun crime far higher there.

Gun kill one person. Bomb kill many. Me thinks people should throw daisies and glitter at each other.

Europe for Gods sack is a large place...

Yeah, America is pretty small.

don't tell me they are organising a Terrorist attack in the dingle.

OK but when it all goes boom, don't come cryin' to me with half your boob blown off.

orourkeda · 03-10-2010 9:17am

Isnt it a pity they couldnt see terrorists attacks coming in their own country.

Maybe they should keep their noses out.

orourkeda · 03-10-2010 9:18am

alex73 wrote: »

Hilarious!!!... There are many places in the states that nobody should go to... Gun crime far higher there.

Europe for Gods sack is a large place... don't tell me they are organising a Terrorist attack in the dingle.

I'd love to hear a foreign news outlet attempting dingle an daingean

Min · 03-10-2010 12:12pm

They showed a map of Europe on Sky with Britain, Germany, France and Denmark singled out as the most likely for a Mumbai styled terrorist attack.

speedboatchase · 03-10-2010 1:25pm

brummytom wrote: »

Can I go to Spar?

We've been warned of a possible attack tomorrow by the RIRA, targeting the Tory conference. It better happen

How did nobody notice that sentence? What a scumbag

Herb Powell · 03-10-2010 2:24pm

Bonito wrote: »

Gun kill one person. Bomb kill many. Me thinks people should throw daisies and glitter at each other.

not necessarily, I got a triple kill with akimbo MP5Ks the other night

charlemont · 03-10-2010 2:31pm

its probably the yanks gonna do the bombing .ie .. bologna train station...

Bonito · 03-10-2010 5:40pm

speedboatchase wrote: »

How did nobody notice that sentence? What a scumbag

Would you not report the post rather than call the poster a scum bag?

ceadaoin. · 03-10-2010 6:12pm

The UK Home Office has also issued a warning about travel to Europe, particularly France and Germany

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11462595

Overheal · 03-10-2010 6:37pm

orourkeda wrote: »

Isnt it a pity they couldnt see terrorists attacks coming in their own country.

Maybe they should keep their noses out.

Oh my yes, ignore intelligence information because of one glaring exception.

Perhaps you should keep your own nose out?

03-10-2010 6:41pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

The UK Home Office has also issued a warning about travel to Europe, particularly France and Germany

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11462595

I wonder if the inteligence is indicating an attempt to copy the Madrid train attacks, it would be the easiest type to carry out.

Mister men · 03-10-2010 7:20pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I wonder if the inteligence is indicating an attempt to copy the Madrid train attacks, it would be the easiest type to carry out.

Not if you go about it like the show bomber Richard Reed.

Seriously though does anyone believe this **** anymore?

ceadaoin. · 03-10-2010 7:34pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I wonder if the inteligence is indicating an attempt to copy the Madrid train attacks, it would be the easiest type to carry out.

I think the intelligence specifically indicates it will be an attack of the type that was carried out in Mumbai. Attack a busy place with guns etc, and kill as many people as possible.

Kind of scary if this is a credible threat

Ronin247 · 03-10-2010 7:37pm

Travellers warned of 'high threat' of terror attacks
on 03/10/2010 17:00:25

http://http://news.eircom.net/breakingnews/18715856/?view=Standard

Howya boss,deres a lot o dem oul terrorissis about,careful dey dont blow up de oul caravan......

Why are they warning them.....

brummytom · 03-10-2010 8:01pm

speedboatchase wrote: »

How did nobody notice that sentence? What a scumbag

On the level of scumbagginess, I'd put the Tories way ahead of me

brianthebard · 03-10-2010 9:05pm

Overheal wrote: »

Nah. This is not the same "Terror Alert" Administration. I don't think this white house would have issued this type of warning unless it were credible and noteworthy.

What benefit or added safety does an alert like this actually provide?

southsiderosie · 03-10-2010 9:21pm

brianthebard wrote: »

What benefit or added safety does an alert like this actually provide?

CYA for the government.

kippy · 03-10-2010 9:29pm

Royal Irish wrote: »

You better get one of these then...

Is that Rafa Benitez??

brianthebard · 03-10-2010 10:04pm

brummytom wrote: »

On the level of scumbagginess, I'd put the Tories way ahead of me

Jamiekelly · 03-10-2010 11:00pm

Do they know who will cause the so called "terrorist attacks"?
I seen on a sky news banner earlier in the week that it was "Irish related terrorism" and thats why the threat level in the UK is in "Severe"
Is it the IRA or the Taliban they're on about?

mr_happy · 03-10-2010 11:19pm

medicman2009 wrote: »

Hype or not who knows? But the way these nut jobs often work, correlating numbers seem to attract them. So I'd be watching a date like 10.10.10 for example. More likely to be bullsh1te hype though.

at 10:10 am

Celly Smunt · 03-10-2010 11:46pm

have we struck oil in Ireland by any chance?,maybe an attack on american tourists in england by islamic "terrorists" will lead to an invasion of ireland after all the I.R.A hype? :rolleyes:

old_aussie · 03-10-2010 11:52pm

bluewolf wrote: »

Is it wrong to be skeptical that 2 dead guys were terrorists?
I sometimes wonder how many announcements are there just to justify their jobs

The were training at known terrorist camps, and you'd just say they were just "tourists".

04-10-2010 12:15am

Jamiekelly wrote: »

Do they know who will cause the so called "terrorist attacks"?
I seen on a sky news banner earlier in the week that it was "Irish related terrorism" and thats why the threat level in the UK is in "Severe"
Is it the IRA or the Taliban they're on about?

The threat from "dissidants" on the UK mainland was raised last week, the Tory party conference being a prime target.

The Taliban risk is for France & Germany.

04-10-2010 12:16am

old_aussie wrote: »

The were training at known terrorist camps, and you'd just say they were just "tourists".

Adventure holiday. :rolleyes:

pickarooney · 04-10-2010 8:30am

Min wrote: »

They showed a map of Europe on Sky with Britain, Germany, France and Denmark singled out as the most likely for a Mumbai styled terrorist attack.

Mumbai style attack - sounds like a drive-by carried out by a yummy mummy.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 04-10-2010 8:42am

Deleted User wrote: »

The threat from "dissidants" on the UK mainland was raised last week, the Tory party conference being a prime target.

The Taliban risk is for France & Germany.

Aye. It's such a massive coincidence all these terror threats being risen with the budget for anti-terror organisations being announced in the next few months

bobblepuzzle · 04-10-2010 8:47am

This video provides more detail....

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2010/10/03/robertson.germany.plot.cnn

R P McMurphy · 04-10-2010 9:03am

The US government itself has been under a sustained economic terrorist attack since 2008. The major investment/commercial banks have looted the state and done more damage to the country than osama could ever dream of. Instead of doing anything to counter this they persist with the terrorist distraction

jackiebaron · 04-10-2010 11:00am

Stinicker wrote: »

Islam the Religion of Peace. The Dutch and French have recently banned the Burka, no doubt it is in response to that. Europe is such a tolerant, liberal and pacifist region that if they are targeted I hope the EU collectively blows the Middle East to Atoms.

I hope not. I have some friends in the Middle East and they are lovely people and they have two small children.

jackiebaron · 04-10-2010 11:08am

KINGVictor wrote: »

Cuz...they were elected to look after the interests of Americans and not Europeans...honestly that question should be directed to your democratically elected governments...you know...

Seems the Americans never get tired of telling us Europeans how they saved us but can't warn us about a bomb in a public place now? This is all bollocks anyway. Get the CIA to detonate a bomb somewhere, blame it on Al-Queda and then pass legislation that makes it illegal to gather in public places (for your own safety) just so that nobody can demonstrate against austerity measures.
False flag again.

bobblepuzzle · 04-10-2010 11:21am

jackiebaron wrote: »

Seems the Americans never get tired of telling us Europeans how they saved us but can't warn us about a bomb in a public place now? This is all bollocks anyway. Get the CIA to detonate a bomb somewhere, blame it on Al-Queda and then pass legislation that makes it illegal to gather in public places (for your own safety) just so that nobody can demonstrate against austerity measures.
False flag again.

So what do you suggest they do then? Not provide the warnings? Then something happens, civilians get killed and they get criticised for not warning people... is that the better way do you think?

Brendog · 04-10-2010 11:41am

Min wrote: »

The Obama administration is to issue a warning to US citizens to avoid public places in Europe, it is is believed that a terrorist attack is imminent.

So says Sky News.

Last week the talk was about Mumbai style attacks in Europe. I wonder if this is what is expected.

Whoa!! thanks for the heads up Min...

Of course this wouldn't have anything to do with the failing economy. I'm sure Obama is just looking out for the lives of Americans and NOT trying to keep them in america so their money is put into the American economy rather than many countries in europe.

jackiebaron · 04-10-2010 11:41am

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

So what do you suggest they do then? Not provide the warnings? Then something happens, civilians get killed and they get criticised for not warning people... is that the better way do you think?

Well since you've a better chance of being killed by a meteorite than in a terrorist attack I would think that these warnings are largely useless and are being used simply to stoke fear....and it seems to be working on you.

bobblepuzzle · 04-10-2010 12:11pm

jackiebaron wrote: »

Well since you've a better chance of being killed by a meteorite than in a terrorist attack I would think that these warnings are largely useless and are being used simply to stoke fear....and it seems to be working on you.

I was simply making the point that I'm not as cynical as most regarding the warnings, and if they have intelligence indicating something may happen they are doing nothing wrong by alerting the public...

Personally I don't pay any heed to them, nor do a lot of people....

jackiebaron · 04-10-2010 12:20pm

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

I was simply making the point that I'm not as cynical as most regarding the warnings, and if they have intelligence indicating something may happen they are doing nothing wrong by alerting the public...

Personally I don't pay any heed to them, nor do a lot of people....

Nothing wrong with alerting the public??? How is this warning in anyway helpful? What are people supposed to do? Everyone in France and Germany is supposed to stay indoors until Obama and his monkeys say it's safe to come out?
If the intelligence services have infiltrated a cell and gleaned definitive information about a planned attack then surely they would simply arrest the perpetrators and thwart the attack. No need to announce anything.

They must think we're idiots. They even mentioned Bin Laden again as one who may be "involved" ..you know, the same Bin Laden that the CIA says has been dead since December 2001.

These warnings are farcical.

bobblepuzzle · 04-10-2010 12:38pm

jackiebaron wrote: »

Nothing wrong with alerting the public??? How is this warning in anyway helpful? What are people supposed to do? Everyone in France and Germany is supposed to stay indoors until Obama and his monkeys say it's safe to come out?
If the intelligence services have infiltrated a cell and gleaned definitive information about a planned attack then surely they would simply arrest the perpetrators and thwart the attack. No need to announce anything.

They must think we're idiots. They even mentioned Bin Laden again as one who may be "involved" ..you know, the same Bin Laden that the CIA says has been dead since December 2001.

These warnings are farcical.

I don't remember the American government ever categorically stating that Bin Laden was dead... Maybe I'm wrong but if you could provide a reference for this that would be awesome.

As regards the alerts, its not only the public that get the alerts but its also the response teams, police etc that are put in a heightened state of alert/readiness just in case. This is were I believe it is most helpful. I also think that, lets just say they didn't inform the whole public and just the emergency services... it still gets out eventually through the grapevine and wind up in the media anyway....

D-Generate · 04-10-2010 12:51pm

Jesus, if the US government said that grass is green you would get the same folks out trying to disagree with them. Some people here just seem to have an anti-US sentiment and will dispute anything they will say.

The US government said this just to make people more aware and increase vigilance, its not like they have shut down their airports to stop their citizens going to Europe. Maybe had people been more aware in Madrid then the bombings would not have taken place there and remember it was public vigilance that stopped the Times Square bombing.

This thread has a large amount of crackpots suggesting that the US government/CIA would even commit bombings to stir up fear which is ludicrous. If the Nixon administration couldn't even cover up five guys breaking in to a democrats conference do you really think they could cover up the massive amount of logistics that would go in to planning and carrying out an attack on civilians in the West?!?! Wikileaks has shown us they can't even cover up civilian killings in Iraq/Afghanistan. People are nuts.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 04-10-2010 1:11pm

Japanese now warning their citizens

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11467150

ceadaoin. · 04-10-2010 1:43pm

jackiebaron wrote: »

Nothing wrong with alerting the public??? How is this warning in anyway helpful? What are people supposed to do? Everyone in France and Germany is supposed to stay indoors until Obama and his monkeys say it's safe to come out?
If the intelligence services have infiltrated a cell and gleaned definitive information about a planned attack then surely they would simply arrest the perpetrators and thwart the attack. No need to announce anything.

They must think we're idiots. They even mentioned Bin Laden again as one who may be "involved" ..you know, the same Bin Laden that the CIA says has been dead since December 2001.

These warnings are farcical.

I don't think anyone is going to purposely avoid public areas because of this, but if these warnings increase people's vigilance then they've served their purpose I suppose. If you seen someone acting suspiciously would you be more inclined to report it after a specific warning had been issued?

Avoid public places in Europe

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