Science TR071

amoXx · 12-07-2010 10:30PM

CJTobin wrote: »

The following courses have places left:

Could anybody tell me what the asterisk means on the results sheets? I've looked, but can't find any indication as to what it might mean. Thanks!

it means u failed the course work. thats what it meant in 1st year science exams last year anyway xD

CJTobin · 13-07-2010 09:35AM

amoXx wrote: »

it means u failed the course work. thats what it meant in 1st year science exams last year anyway xD

Thanks for the reply, but I don't think that could be it, given that I got my coursework back and didn't fail. Anyway, I've sent an e-mail to Peter Coxon (Science Course Director), I'll post back here with his reply.

lucernarian · 13-07-2010 07:05PM

I won't say any stuff about Peter Coxon here. Needless to say, I wish you the best of luck in getting into SF Geography. I understand from others I know that going into Geology without doing it in JF is possible, but they take exception to allowing people into Geography. From what I've seen and heard of SF Geography, it would be quite easy to take up (most found it easier than many biology subjects). It will be easier to get into if you have Geography from the LC to back you up.

Whether it's because of space considerations in geography lectures and labs or else they (as in Coxon) don't want students transferring to a supposedly easier course, you decide.

You'd be better off emailing the Science office anyway, I find them nicer to deal with than most academics! And it's their job to coordinate all those sorts of requests and whatnot.

The_Joker. · 13-07-2010 07:49PM

To_be_confirmed wrote: »

I won't say any stuff about Peter Coxon here. Needless to say, I wish you the best of luck in getting into SF Geography. I understand from others I know that going into Geology without doing it in JF is possible, but they take exception to allowing people into Geography. From what I've seen and heard of SF Geography, it would be quite easy to take up (most found it easier than many biology subjects). It will be easier to get into if you have Geography from the LC to back you up.

Whether it's because of space considerations in geography lectures and labs or else they (as in Coxon) don't want students transferring to a supposedly easier course, you decide.

You'd be better off emailing the Science office anyway, I find them nicer to deal with than most academics! And it's their job to coordinate all those sorts of requests and whatnot.

Is Mr Coxon that bad? I thought he seemed like a nice guy.....

lucernarian · 14-07-2010 01:08AM

I'm quite sure he's a pleasant individual. I wouldn't ever say otherwise as I haven't met the man:)

What I do know is that it's been hard for people to pass into Geography in comparison to other subjects. Impossible actually, in the cases I'm aware of though obviously I don't know every other outcome. So I'm suggesting that the science office is a good place to discuss it as they'll know the lie of the land and what else people should do to get the issue sorted.

El Siglo · 20-08-2010 07:27PM

Anyone know where I can get a dissection kit (for cheap)?

Aoibheann · 20-08-2010 07:52PM

El Siglo wrote: »

Anyone know where I can get a dissection kit (for cheap)?

IIRC, I bought mine in Clarendon Medical, and it wasn't expensive at all - maybe 10 or 15 quid. There's a google maps page for them here, so you should be able to find it easily enough.

El Siglo · 20-08-2010 08:00PM

Aoibheann wrote: »

IIRC, I bought mine in Clarendon Medical, and it wasn't expensive at all - maybe 10 or 15 quid. There's a google maps page for them here, so you should be able to find it easily enough.

Cheers Aoibheann!:D

Craguls · 20-08-2010 08:57PM

They were €18-20 last year depending on which type you bought. (Main difference is the pouch)

Konata · 20-08-2010 10:50PM

I'm guessing you need a dissection kit for Biology?

Never had to get one before >_<

Craguls · 20-08-2010 10:51PM

Hotaru wrote: »

I'm guessing you need a dissection kit for Biology?

Never had to get one before >_<

Yup! Granted it doesn't get that much use in first year. You dissect a worm and a prawn in the second semester. Aside from that you could get away with a scalpel and a forecips

amacachi · 20-08-2010 10:55PM

I bought a dissection kit but never remembered to bring it with me. One kit between two is nearly enough, also towards the end of the year there were plenty of kits left behind by others I used.

GlasnevinRed · 20-08-2010 10:58PM

Got mine in the SU bookshop in house 6. Don't know if they still sell them though. For 2nd year you'll definitely need it for the Vertebrate Form and Function and Metabolism modules, possibly more.

Konata · 20-08-2010 11:03PM

Craguls wrote: »

Yup! Granted it doesn't get that much use in first year. You dissect a worm and a prawn in the second semester. Aside from that you could get away with a scalpel and a forecips

A worm? A prawn?

Sounds riveting >_<

Bit of a downgrade from cadavers

amacachi · 20-08-2010 11:10PM

Hotaru wrote: »

A worm? A prawn?

Sounds riveting >_<

Bit of a downgrade from cadavers

Away back with ya then. :pac:

Konata · 20-08-2010 11:16PM

amacachi wrote: »

Away back with ya then. :pac:

Ah now, you'd have to pay me to go back to there

amacachi · 20-08-2010 11:29PM

Hotaru wrote: »

Ah now, you'd have to pay me to go back to there

You've found my one weakness, my apathy for almost everything. :pac:

Jammyc · 21-08-2010 12:35AM

For some reason, I was told to make sure the kit I got had removable blades or whatever.

Lawliet · 21-08-2010 02:19PM

I'm a bit confused by how the prospectus lays out the subject choices, so I figured I'd ask here; is it possible to do physics with chemistry and biology? Or is it only geography or maths that can be done with that combination?

Craguls · 21-08-2010 02:24PM

Lawliet wrote: »

I'm a bit confused by how the prospectus lays out the subject choices, so I figured I'd ask here; is it possible to do physics with chemistry and biology? Or is it only geography or maths that can be done with that combination?

In theory you can do anything but need to fill 60 credits.

In practice you need to take maths or maths methods to allow you to have decent options in third and fourth year. Leaving you with 40 or 50 credits respectively.

In general people take:

Physics, Chemistry/Biology and Maths

Biology, Geography, Geology, maths or maths methods.

Biology, Chemistry, Maths methods and Geology OR Foundation Physics (this being the only way to take all three)

Foundation physics doesn't let you continue physics in the later years it just a general physics in all areas of science course. Ape Xaviour was a demonstrator for the labs this year he might be able to expand a little more on that area of the course if he's around.

amacachi · 21-08-2010 02:31PM

Quick tip for everyone, check the pre-requisites for third year because a lot of courses require you to have done Chemistry in first year, which I didn't cop for quite a while. :pac:

Craguls · 21-08-2010 02:37PM

amacachi wrote: »

Quick tip for everyone, check the pre-requisites for third year because a lot of courses require you to have done Chemistry in first year, which I didn't cop for quite a while. :pac:

You going for graduate medicine no? Wouldn't biochem or something in that area have stood to you more in the future letting you focus more on anatomy etc?

amacachi · 21-08-2010 02:56PM

Craguls wrote: »

You going for graduate medicine no? Wouldn't biochem or something in that area have stood to you more in the future letting you focus more on anatomy etc?

It would've done, yeah, but I decided for this degree to do what I want to do/am interested, learned that the hard way in the last course I was doing. :pac: I just have no interest in chemistry at the moment so I didn't do it last year and only copped on after Christmas I think that it left me not able to do almost any of the relevant-to-medicine courses, so I'm just going for something I'd like. After that I may go for medicine, seems to be a lot cheaper to do in England, specifically Leeds where I'd love to live.

Lawliet · 21-08-2010 03:17PM

Craguls wrote: »

Biology, Chemistry, Maths methods and Geology OR Foundation Physics (this being the only way to take all three)

Foundation physics doesn't let you continue physics in the later years it just a general physics in all areas of science course.

That sounds prefect, thanks!

Craguls · 21-08-2010 03:29PM

Lawliet wrote: »

That sounds prefect, thanks!

No worries. Jammyc did foundation physics last year. I did geology (and wanted to kill myself as a result.......) he might be kind enough to tell you more about it.

I'm a peer mentor for incoming first years so feel free to pm any and all questions about science or the college. I'll be happy to help.

Jammyc · 21-08-2010 05:31PM

Craguls wrote: »

No worries. Jammyc did foundation physics last year. I did geology (and wanted to kill myself as a result.......) he might be kind enough to tell you more about it.

I'm a peer mentor for incoming first years so feel free to pm any and all questions about science or the college. I'll be happy to help.

Foundation Physics, as Craguls said, doesn't allow you to progress to chose Physics in later years. It doesn't go much further than LC physics (AFAIK) I didnt do LC physics.

It's taught really well, class was fairly small this year (c.70). There's a group project on physical applications in Biology/Medicine worth 10% and labs are worth 30%. Labs could be a bit of a bitch because they were the same labs as the regular physics students, so it regularly ventured outside of what we were being shown in lectures, but the demonstrators were all dead sound and really helpful.

I have a question of my own. Next year, do we still have Biology Tutorials? If so, are they run by the same tutors as last year or by the lecturers themselves? Looking at some of the SF notes available online, I cant see myself understanding any of this by just reading and listening to a lecturer run through it in 45 mins. (Especially Biochem)

ApeXaviour · 21-08-2010 06:12PM

Jammyc wrote: »

Labs could be a bit of a bitch because they were the same labs as the regular physics students, so it regularly ventured outside of what we were being shown in lectures, but the demonstrators were all dead sound and really helpful.

Glad you thought so

Unfortunately they're obliged to do it without pay this year (effectively a 10pc pay cut for postgrads), so some may not be as happy about it.

A Neurotic · 21-08-2010 06:50PM

Jammyc wrote: »

For some reason, I was told to make sure the kit I got had removable blades or whatever.

Yeah, disposable blades are better as the permanent ones supposedly get blunt and crappy. I know the black zip case kits from Clarendon medical have disposable blades, not sure about the cloth pouch ones.

Just to add to what Craguls and Aoibheann said above, I'm pretty sure the SU shop sells dissection kits at a higher price than Clarendon. Got mine for something like €12 from Clarendon.

GlasnevinRed · 21-08-2010 10:15PM

Jammyc wrote: »

I have a question of my own. Next year, do we still have Biology Tutorials? If so, are they run by the same tutors as last year or by the lecturers themselves? Looking at some of the SF notes available online, I cant see myself understanding any of this by just reading and listening to a lecturer run through it in 45 mins. (Especially Biochem)

There were no Bio tutorials in 2nd year last year anyway. Two of our biochem labs (one from Metabolism and one from Cell Structure and Function) towards the end of those mudules were given as tutorial, but mainly focused on the stuff from the labs. They were helpful enough.

Scrappychimow · 22-08-2010 03:27PM

Hi,
I'm starting science in september, I'm thinking of doing chem101(physical chemistry) as I don't want to major in chemistry later.Is this difficult? Like, what would be the most difficult topic wavefunction equations ,paulis exclusion principle etc?

What do I need to buy for the labs,just safety glasses and a coat? How much are the lab-coats please?

Also I want to get a locker, what date does everyone que up,and do I need to wait until after registration? I want to get one in the science building...

Thanks for the replies :P

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