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Airtricity 11 vs Man. Utd - **MOD NOTE POST 457**

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  • #992
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,991 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    So a game that was meant to give the league a boost has, surprise surprise, done the opposite.

    Well done John and co for taking the LOI backwards.


  • #993
    Gavin "shels"
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,980 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Xavi6 wrote: »

    Well done John and co for taking the LOI backwards.

    That's been the case for years tbh.


  • #994
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,991 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Gavin shels wrote: »
    That's been the case for years tbh.

    Indeed, but unfortunately this was in front of a much bigger market who, in the main, wouldn't have a clue about the shambles that is the FAI when it comes to the league.


  • #995
    WesternZulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Only in Ireland could this happen.

    The people who say that the league is no good/crap facilities/poor standard as a reason to support the man uniteds/liverpools/ect of the world just does not make sense.

    If the people of Manchester did not support their local team initially do you honestly think Man United would have gotten anywhere?
    Man United did not start off with teams who played magical football.
    They did not start with supporters from all over the globe.
    They built on the support of the people from the local people who followed THEIR team.

    This is the reason why the league in Ireland will never grow.
    Irish people love the glamor and all that comes with supporting a epl team.


  • #996
    Paul Tergat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,801 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    genuine question here to the LOI lads then.

    You are made chairman of FAI tomorrow. What changes will you make to help the league? I really struggle to see any workable solutions and would be interested to hear what you think


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  • #997
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,991 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    p_larkin99 wrote: »
    genuine question here to the LOI lads then.

    You are made chairman of FAI tomorrow. What changes will you make to help the league? I really struggle to see any workable solutions and would be interested to hear what you think

    Just a suggestion, but maybe start a new thread on it? Interesting thoughts to be had I'm sure!


  • #998
    brayblue24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭brayblue24


    My post was not to do with the price of alcohol but the fact that the strength of draught beer in the UK is around 1% lower than here-hence the earlier effects of inebriation-that's all. No offence was intended, just an observation. The main point of the post was football related after all


  • #999
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Just a suggestion, but maybe start a new thread on it? Interesting thoughts to be had I'm sure!
    That thread will end well :)


  • #1000
    Paul Tergat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,801 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Just a suggestion, but maybe start a new thread on it? Interesting thoughts to be had I'm sure!

    yeah i wasnt sure whether to leave in here or do a new thread, will fire one up then.

    actually f it. itll end in tears


  • #1001
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    brayblue24 wrote: »
    My post was not to do with the price of alcohol but the fact that the strength of draught beer in the UK is around 1% lower than here-hence the earlier effects of inebriation-that's all. No offence was intended, just an observation. The main point of the post was football related after all

    Just curious though, how much is it for a pint?


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  • #1002
    CorkMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    p_larkin99 wrote: »
    genuine question here to the LOI lads then.

    You are made chairman of FAI tomorrow. What changes will you make to help the league? I really struggle to see any workable solutions and would be interested to hear what you think

    Set up a seperate funds package for clubs who are in major financial trouble. Look at Cork City, they shouldn't have been closed down, there should have been funds.

    I remember Cork played Nantes back in 2004/2005 and it was amazing, they almost beat them. Barely missed out on the group stages of the UEFA Cup.


  • #1003
    brayblue24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭brayblue24


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Just curious though, how much is it for a pint?

    Bring your curiousity elsewhere, I'm not interested in getting involved in this nonsense.


  • #1004
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    brayblue24 wrote: »
    Bring your curiousity elsewhere, I'm not interested in getting involved in this nonsense.

    It was a genuine question

    :confused:


  • #1005
    L'prof
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,051 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    I think this game could have worked in their favour if planned correctly. If they managed to keep the score respectable, it would have been deemed a success, but playing just before the season kicks off with United gearing up to try and bring home number 19 after last seasons disappointment was just never going to happen...especially without a full panel to choose from!


  • #1006
    Le King
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    CorkMan wrote: »
    What the hell are you talking about? Soccer isn't from Ireland.

    That's like saying golf is from mars.


    Oh lord, I was joking dude.

    Seriously?


  • #1007
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,991 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    CorkMan wrote: »
    Set up a seperate funds package for clubs who are in major financial trouble. Look at Cork City, they shouldn't have been closed down, there should have been funds.

    I remember Cork played Nantes back in 2004/2005 and it was amazing, they almost beat them. Barely missed out on the group stages of the UEFA Cup.

    Please tell me you're joking


  • #1008
    CorkMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    TBH it would be fairly sad if these Man United supporters only see United at this game, or future friendlies. I support Real Madrid and travelled to Madrid to see them. An amazing experience of going abroad, and the match was great.

    In all fairness, it is 60 euro return through ryanair to Machester and back, maybe 100-150 for a ticket. If these people can buy Man United jerseys with the names on the back every season, and maybe 50+ euros a month for Sky Sports, they can go to Manchester every year.


  • #1009
    Le King
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    CorkMan wrote: »
    TBH it would be fairly sad if these Man United supporters only see United at this game, or future friendlies. I support Real Madrid and travelled to Madrid to see them. An amazing experience of going abroad, and the match was great.

    In all fairness, it is 60 euro return through ryanair to Machester and back, maybe 100-150 for a ticket. If these people can buy Man United jerseys with the names on the back every season, and maybe 50+ euros a month for Sky Sports, they can go to Manchester every year.

    Ha ha ha. PMSL.

    Your joking right?


  • #1010
    CorkMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    Le King wrote: »
    Oh lord, I was joking dude.

    Seriously?

    LOL, I was just playing off you saying sarcastly that Soccer is from Ireland. That thought alone is enough to spin off GAA heads.
    Please tell me you're joking

    No i'm not. Cork City were top 3 material most seasons.


  • #1011
    UpTheSlashers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭UpTheSlashers


    I always thought the LOI should give local schoolboys clubs free admission for every 5-10 kids accompanied by a coach, does anything along these lines already exist?


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  • #1012
    CorkMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    Le King wrote: »
    Ha ha ha. PMSL.

    Your joking right?

    About what? The price of an old trafford ticket??


  • #1013
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    WesternZulu wrote: »
    Only in Ireland could this happen.

    The people who say that the league is no good/crap facilities/poor standard as a reason to support the man uniteds/liverpools/ect of the world just does not make sense.

    If the people of Manchester did not support their local team initially do you honestly think Man United would have gotten anywhere?
    Man United did not start off with teams who played magical football.
    They did not start with supporters from all over the globe.
    They built on the support of the people from the local people who followed THEIR team.

    This is the reason why the league in Ireland will never grow.
    Irish people love the glamor and all that comes with supporting a epl team.

    Man United also built on talented Irish players like Johnny Carey, Noel Cantwell, Liam Whelan and so on. When Whelan was playing for United people in Dublin would visit local movie theatres to check out performances of how he played. Even Giles tonight talked about how United have been supported on this side of the water for decades. In time this connection only grew stronger when the likes of Best, Moran, McGrath, Stapleton, Keane, Irwin etc. came along. You cannot dismiss the history and tradition of players from this island and United, Liverpool, Arsenal etc.

    If the talented players of England played the game in Spain then you would see more and more English fans following Spanish clubs over time.

    If you want to get more Irish fans following local sides then you must stop the exodus of players to English clubs. Get FIFA to implement a rule where players can't move abroad unless they are 21 and over. Allow the young talented players to remain here and build the league up from the bottom up.


  • #1014
    AntoSRFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭AntoSRFC


    Passed two men kitted out head to toe in their Man U gear presumably getting the train to the match (or their barstool). The sight of them was awfull. Was so tempted to shout at them. "I hope the brits hammer the f cukin Irish" to see their responce. Decided to let them be in their dream world. The whole "event" today was a disgrace and an embarrassment. Great way to open the stadium to the Irish supporting football fans. Well done Delaney. Take a bow.


  • #1015
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,991 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    CorkMan wrote: »

    No i'm not. Cork City were top 3 material most seasons.

    So what? You want mismanaged clubs to be given a free pass essentially.


  • #1016
    CorkMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    So what? You want mismanaged clubs to be given a free pass essentially.

    No, but the club crumbling was just a blow to the city. It was the chairmans fault, not the badge, turners cross and the people who went there for every match.


  • #1017
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,991 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    CorkMan wrote: »
    No, but the club crumbling was just a blow to the city. It was the chairmans fault, not the badge, turners cross and the people who went there for every match.

    I know what you're saying but it's tough sh*t.

    Having a safety net of some kind means clubs know that they can have a few years of dominance, throwing cash left, right and centre, safe in the knowledge that they'll be bailed out at the end of it all.

    Farcical tbh.


  • #1018
    Le King
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    AntoSRFC wrote: »
    Passed two men kitted out head to toe in their Man U gear presumably getting the train to the match (or their barstool). The sight of them was awfull. Was so tempted to shout at them. "I hope the brits hammer the f cukin Irish" to see their responce. Decided to let them be in their dream world. The whole "event" today was a disgrace and an embarrassment. Great way to open the stadium to the Irish supporting football fans. Well done Delaney. Take a bow.

    Don't throw the "British" argument, around it's pathetic. You must think soccer is Irish. If you feel so strong about the whole thing, don't watch the foreign sport that is soccer. Go down and watch your local GAA team.

    The only thing that was disgraceful today was the LoI again. If it wasn't full of self-important football fans and run so badly then maybe we might have a competitive football league. But we don't and the argument to go watch the LoI at the moment is that it's "Irish".

    Really sad tbh.


  • #1019
    L'prof
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,051 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    I know what you're saying but it's tough sh*t.

    Having a safety net of some kind means clubs know that they can have a few years of dominance, throwing cash left, right and centre, safe in the knowledge that they'll be bailed out at the end of it all.

    Farcical tbh.

    No more so than all the sugar daddies in the Premier League really, but I can't see CorkMan's suggestion being viable in the slightest.


  • #1020
    Pro. F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    Oh great, I see this thread has been plagued with the holier than thou bullshìt spouted by (some / a lot of) LOI fans against anybody with enough common sense to avoid the catastrophic waste of time that they choose to bother themselves with.

    I'd just like to point out something - that LOI pile of **** that took to the pitch tonight didn't represent me in any way. I mean no offence to the players, they were put in an impossibly difficult game, being the weaker players and a selection team; I mean offence to the FAI and the LOI. People who are claiming that the LOI represents Irish people are totally wrong. The LOI represents people who like, or feel attached to, the LOI. League football is one organisation in Ireland, an appallingly badly run organisation. And just like other organisations, institutions and organs of the state (badly run or not), no single one can claim to represent all the people of the country. Just like the FAI doesn't represent any of us (because we all detest them and would give them abuse at any given opportunity), we are in no way obliged to feel represented by the shambles that they put together.

    Everybody has the right to object to any organisation in the country and to disassociate themselves from it. Obviously a lot of Irish people feel absolutely no connection with Irish league football. And that's nobody's fault but the league's organisers.


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  • #1021
    AntoSRFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭AntoSRFC


    Le King wrote: »
    Don't throw the "British" argument, around it's pathetic. You must think soccer is Irish. If you feel so strong about the whole thing, don't watch the foreign sport that is soccer. Go down and watch your local GAA team.

    The only thing that was disgraceful today was the LoI again. If it wasn't full of self-important football fans and run so badly then maybe we might have a competitive football league. But we don't and the argument to go watch the LoI at the moment is that it's "Irish".

    Really sad tbh.

    Here im not gona get into a big debate here. The reason I support the league of Ireland is because im a football fan and to me theirs nothing better than watching live football everyother week. Nothing can compare to it. The argument at the moment to go to LOI games isnt cos it Irish. But theres no denying that an Irish team made up of Irish players were playing a british team tonight.

    BTW I was actually on the way to hurling match if that makes ye feel any better.


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