Disable Woman 'starved after mother died'

mink_man wrote: »

why didn't she eat her legs? she obviously didn't need them.

genericguy wrote: »

well god damn that's low-brow.

me@ucd wrote: »

:kicks anyone in the face who thanks that:

Tragic is the only word really.

diddledum wrote: »

There's bad taste and then there's BAD taste, you should check yourself, that's up there with one of the sickest things I've heard

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

low brow and fcuking stupid might i add :rolleyes:

T-Machine180 wrote: »

As horrible as the joke may be, I still smiled at it.

On a serious note, it is a tragedy that the daughter may have been killed by her mother, or starved to death. It is a terrible way to go.

krudler wrote: »

Thats one of the most cuntish things I've ever read on here :mad:

Shy_Dave! wrote: »

One of the worst ways to die, and a c*ntish comment to make about it. Can only imagine the fear, the horror of slowly dying from starvation.

mojesius wrote: »

This is a horrific tragedy. Can we just leave it there and close the thread?

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

People make jokes here everyday of the week, all year round, about tragedies and mishaps of all kinds. Why does this one suddenly provoke outrage where others are just accepted?

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

well for me, it's just not even funny. maybe i wouldn't have been pissed off if at had been funny.

krudler wrote: »

Theres a line, I can laugh at sick jokes, but then theres just being a cnut.

Saila wrote: »

there are lines - sanity/insanity

Shy_Dave! wrote: »

It's the fact that an elderly woman died, her disabled daughter died most likely of starvation and their bodies rotted alone in a house for weeks and weeks.
That's why his 'joke' is more offensive than usual...to me anyways.

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

A bit fcukin dumb alright.

Thats the way of AH isn't it? Someone posts a tragic story & everyone speeds in to post the cruelest so-called pun/piss-take.

I'l poke fun at anything but oh cripes thats a bad oul story. A bit too sad, even for me.

minidazzler wrote: »

There is a forum specifally for jokes like that! It's not something I would take offence to but it crossed the line by a wide mark.

mikom wrote: »

To be honest "After hours" is the last place I would post that story.
If you throw a dog a bone, don't be surprised if you get nipped.
I'd even go so far as to say that many of these sad stories are posted up as offerings to the humour gods of afterhours, with the original posters then sitting back to bask in the quips.

wes wrote: »

That is just a terrible, terrible tragedy.

Brendog wrote: »

one of the most horrific things i've ever heard! that poor woman..





Is there any chance mink_man could be banned from Boards.ie?
because clearly he isn't human

TPD wrote: »

I don't think the joke was particularly funny, but I'll defend to the death mink_man's right to say it.

I think he made the mistake of jumping in without actually reading the link through, there was just one minute between the post and his reply.

Typical AH response in most cases tbh, which is unfortunate.

With threads like this the first reply can set the tone for the whole thread.

Thankfully everyone else replied in a manner that gives AH and it's posters full credit where credit is due.

You are all capable of understanding tragedy and posting in a manner that shows threads like this belong in After Hours,

me_right_one wrote: »

I'd say the daughter died of dehydration. Starvation takes months, dehydration can be 3 days to 1 week. Terrible, God bless them.

amacachi wrote: »

I've put awful stuff on Facebook I wouldn't put here tbh, more likely that people who don't want to see it will already have me on ignore. :pac:
Also on a particular site I'm on I was expecting a lot of jokes about this and yet there were none that I've noticed, and they've joked about a lot worse.

I didn't want to close this thread, so I will leave my reply and wait for a few minutes so that the people who think funny answers are acceptable know it wont be tolerated this time.

The people of After Hours have spoken.

I will re-open this thread in 5 minutes.

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Thats the way of AH isn't it? Someone posts a tragic story & everyone speeds in to post the cruelest so-called pun/piss-take.

No it's not the way of AH and I think this thread is testament to that...one person made a joke in poor taste and everyone else called him up on it. That's hardly 'everyone speeding in'. I don't know why posters in AH are grouped together as heartless idiots, yes many of us have a darker sense of humour, but 99% know when the line's being crossed.

mink_man wrote: »

thanks sharpshooter, came back here to see all these things, i didn't read the link I just read the heading and why is it such a bad joke, is it because the person that died was disabled?

My advice to you would be to tell you to read the OP.:pac:

Saila wrote: »

Paranoia/Delusion

the joke: Pathological/sociopathic

you need yourself checked out.

Oh come on, that's an over reaction. It was a tasteless joke, but I've seen worse posted without a similar reaction in AH, and I'm sure most posters have either told, or laughed at, equally crude jokes from time to time.

brendansmith wrote: »

Why why why?

Why didnt you just not make the most disgusting 'joke' about a disabled person starving to death. She sat there dying and was incapable of doing anything about it. How is that funny?

It might not be to you, or me, but humour is subjective. Personally, I don't believe that any subject should be off limits for humour, or attempts at it.

mink_man wrote: »

nothing, but this is after hours, a place where theres bad jokes made 24/7. why post it in after hours then? why not post it in humanities?

It was posted in After Hours maybe because the OP thought and rightly so that AH posters would give serious answers.

And they did!

Einhard wrote: »

Oh come on, that's an over reaction. It was a tasteless joke, but I've seen worse posted without a similar reaction in AH, and I'm sure most posters have either told, or laughed at, equally crude jokes from time to time.

Did you actually read the thread and the amount of posters that disagreed with mink_man's post?

That sets the tone of the thread imo.

mink_man wrote: »

what is after hours tell me? its been said its like being in a pub after having a few pints...

would someone who had a few pints in them go telling a serious story, no they wouldn't and I'm sure some would make a joke about it, at least in their head anyways...as far as i can see there's a bandwagon going by and everyone is jumping on it..

If someone walked into a pub I was drinking in and told that story I would be very surprised if it got the reaction you want.

I suppose it's more about the company you keep?

mink_man wrote: »

...as far as i can see there's a bandwagon going by and everyone is jumping on it..

Yeah TBH i was just jumping on the bandwagon. You were an easy target.

Sorry.

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Did you actually read the thread and the amount of posters that disagreed with mink_man's post?

That sets the tone of the thread imo.

I did, and was somewhat surprised to be honest. I can understand people not finding it funny (I didn't, but because it wasn't actually funny, rather than it's subject matter), but the vitriol he's had heaped on him is too much. One poster deems him sociopathic for God's sake! I tend to agree with the one poster who stated that, while he didn't find it funny, he'd defend his right to make such a post.

If someone walked into a pub I was drinking in and told that story I would be very surprised if it got the reaction you want.

I suppose it's more about the company you keep?

Crude, tasteless humour have always been, and always will be part of human nature. Are people here really saying they haven't laughed at racist jokes, at Stevie Wonder/Helen Keller gags, at jokes about famine, war, death, violence?! If so, then both myself and the OP must keep some very odd company indeed.

Sharpshooter wrote: »

As always in After Hours the posters will decide what way they want a thread to go.

They did that here and fair play to them.

I quoted their responses and tried to steer the thread in the direction they wanted.

I stand by that, after all After Hours wouldn't exist without the majority of posters having their say.

That's fair enough.

It was a joke, bad taste or not there's no point dwelling on it.


I think this kind of thing (back to the OP) is a side effect of the break down in community. These people became isolated and it was bound to be hard on them.

I think the break down in community is the cause of a lot of our problems, especially in cities but it's even happening in the country now.

ScumLord wrote: »

I think this kind of thing (back to the OP) is a side effect of the break down in community. These people became isolated and it was bound to be hard on them.

I think the break down in community is the cause of a lot of our problems, especially in cities but it's even happening in the country now.

This kind of thing has been happening long before any imagined "break down in community", it's unfortunately not as rare an occurence as you would think.

The reasons for isolation are obvious:
The mother as full-time carer, is not working and is receiving a welfare payment. This, coupled with her daughter's disability, limits her freedom and her ability to get out and about. Assuming that the daughter is otherwise stable, visits from local healthcare professionals would be few and far between because they're unnecessary.
The mother does not seem to require help, therefore people are unlikely to offer it - this was as true in 1950 as it is now. Over time, she eventually has very little contact with friends and family and natural churn means that new people to the community are unaware of her existence or situation.

Their situation isolated them, not the community. The community just didn't help to address the problem.

The problem is more that our social services run on an "as-needed" basis, i.e. people are only looked after when they come asking for help. Instead, we should be identifying groups at risk of social isolation, such as pensioners and full-time carers and coming up with ways of, at the very least, helping them feel like they haven't been forgotten about.
A twice-weekly visit from the public health nurse for a chat and a cup of tea would have done so much to improve this women's mental well-being.