Jeet Kune DO

Ug Lee · 01-08-2010 03:39PM

jkddublin wrote: »

Hi

at the moment I can't say where I train with ebmas as I am not there very long and so I don't want to be giving out information as I'm not there that long.if your interested in wing chun visit the ebmas site.cheers

You must be training with these two donkeys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiMmyzWEDdQ

jkddublin · 01-08-2010 04:31PM

Just to clarifi few things.yes I train long distance in jkd.the others art I train in are here in Dublin.I train everyday in martial arts.jkd is the only program I did long distance because there are no clubs here.students all around the world train long distance,even students of Dan inosanto train long distance I'm no different.the two arts I am qualified in are jkd as iv said and Filipino kali.I'm not here to give my martial arts backround and not here start rows,I gave infomation about starting a jkd club.if people want to train with me great,if they don't because I did it long distance that there choice and I wish them well.jkd is not mma,NOT mma.so I wouldn join mma club.as of yet I haven't trained personally with my instructor as he's long distance but that's why he now has instuctor camps in the year,so I don't see a problem.I never bought my cert like most peolple I trained everyday for it and still do.

Hope that clears it up

Doug Cartel · 01-08-2010 04:42PM

jkddublin wrote: »

I'm not here to give my martial arts backround...

So you're an instructor who doesn't want to reveal your martial arts background. Yikes.

jkddublin · 01-08-2010 04:59PM

I think you should read posts before you comment.like I said before this thread is about jkd,not my martial arts backround.iv gave my martial arts backround in jkd because this is the art were talking about and art in question so that's all I'm concerned about.

cletus · 01-08-2010 05:25PM

to be honest, jkddublin, if i was a prospective student of yours, I would be slightly concerned about you not wanting to detail your ma background, regardless of whether the style is directly related to the class or style in question.

I know this is a jkd thread, but you came here to talk about your club, and these discussions tend to be fairly organic, so they spread slightly from the topic, and given that you claim to instruct two mas, and train in three others, its not unusual or strange that people would ask what this experience is

With regards to not naming the ebmas club you are with because you are not training there very long, well that just baffles me

jkddublin · 01-08-2010 05:37PM

Iv no problem answering any questions on my martial arts but I'm not going to broadcast it here,especially when there are just people who just want to start trouble.this started as a general interest about jkd to see if people were interested in learning it,and now has turned into much more.I have no problem telling students anything if it was regarding that topic but this is regarding jkd and to me only about jkd.yes it varies and I said I do other arts which I do but this topic is not about them to me it's about jkd.

cletus · 01-08-2010 05:42PM

jkddublin wrote: »

Iv no problem answering any questions on my martial arts but I'm not going to broadcast it here

Why not? As long as what you are doing/have done is legit, it shouldn't matter. in fact, not discussing it will just make people wonder/question more.

If I came on this site and claimed to practice severla martial arts, and teach two, I'd expect to be asked questions about it

TBH, if you dont want to discuss particular parts or areas of your training, dont bring them up. remember, you were the one who mentioned them first

Doug Cartel · 01-08-2010 05:59PM

So let's pretend you have your class set up, and I come in off the street and ask "So what's your background?" What would your reply be?

"None of your business!"
"Get out of here, trouble maker." or
"Well, I started training in X under Y back in Z, then I..."

OLDMAN1 · 01-08-2010 06:01PM

jkd dublin are you going to tell every student on there first night that you have never trained with a instructor and all your info comes from a book or dvd? and how are you getting insurance for these classes,have you told your insurance company that you learned jkd from a book,i have read the tao of jeet kune do and a number of other bruce lee books more than once and have even done a seminar with danny inosanto ,but im not a jkd instructor.

suey71 · 01-08-2010 06:30PM

I just put in a search for jkddublin on Google and this thread is on page 1 already, which means anyone interested in training in jkd in Dublin will read this post as soon as they start searching. These posts will be on the net permanently so you should be careful what you write.(Your reputation is on the line here).

People searching for a MA club don't want to waste their time or money being thought by someone with really no experience training in or teaching their chosen art.

And tbh I'm speaking from experience. I'm 40 now and I started MA at 13 and have trained on off most of my life with chancers, with instructors that actually bought their belts from instructors in different styles. Or with other MA instructors that didn't want to teach/pass on their deadly knowledge because I just wasn't ready to be thought it after only 4 years of training 3 nights a week for 2 1/2 hours per class, and after getting broken fingers, broken arms,(couldn't work for 5 months over this one:mad: and had to remortgage my house to get by), whiplash, infected knuckles and a perminantly bad back causing little to no feeling in my right thigh. Not to mention black eyes, busted lips, lots of stitches, the list goes on and on.

So when guys here ask for a little info on your background in MA they do it for a reason, they don't want to waste their time/money or health on some guy that has no track record, and don't want others to either.

The guys asking you these simple questions broke their B*ll*x to call themselves instructors in their art.

So whats your MA CV?

Ug Lee · 01-08-2010 06:53PM

jkddublin wrote: »

as of yet I haven't trained personally with my instructor as he's long distance

So you never trained personally with your instructor but out of loyalty to him you won't travel 90 mins up the road to train with a real JKD instructor?

And if you never trained personally with him, how did you become qualified?

Doug Cartel · 01-08-2010 07:11PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm8-hOlxmK4

This is your instructor? Why is he demonstrating a throw that he clearly doesn't understand at all?

SBG Ireland · 01-08-2010 11:31PM

ah religion and martial arts.....certainly brings them out

Ug Lee · 02-08-2010 12:13AM

SBG Ireland wrote: »

ah religion and martial arts.....certainly brings them out

John, I have a question. Bear in mind now that I have had a bit to drink but I have read my Dawkins and from what he said it seems that the more intelligant you are, the more likely you are to be an atheist. However I feel that he sometimes confuses coorelation with causation and
(Hold on, I am trying to explain to the missus who Marcella Wallace is in Pulp Fiction)

anyway maybe he confuses coorelation with causation and just because you don't believe in Dog it doesn't make you intelligent so in the absence of religion, what other alternative is there? BJJ?

And out of interest why does Matt have a big tattoo of some Indian deity on his back?

cletus · 02-08-2010 11:21AM

jkddublin, are you by any chance certified in kali through Mr. Almeria as well?

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97408&highlight=joaquin+almeria

http://www.beyondjkd.us/

http://www.beyondjkd.us/engl/shop/video_shop.htm

BTW hello crack fox, you got there before me

Doug Cartel · 02-08-2010 11:38AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/jeet-kune-do-Instructor-certification-/280541880156?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4151995f5c This is his JKD DVD set, the ad copy contains some interesting stuff. Including:

We respect our customer's privacy and do not disclose whom trained with us personally and those whom are certified via DVD. Again, this information is confidential and we respect your privacy. Also, certificates do not say "Certified By DVD" or anything of that matter.

and

He is also a 5 Dan (shihan) under George Dillman

Dillman is the no-touch knock out guy.

SBG Ireland · 02-08-2010 01:11PM

Ug Lee wrote: »

anyway maybe he confuses coorelation with causation and just because you don't believe in Dog it doesn't make you intelligent so in the absence of religion

well i do believe in dogs so....

just being a smart ass

but ive never heard him say that if you dont believe in god you are therefore intelligent...although it is interesting to note that 93% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences do not believe in a personal god...and they're probably the smartest people on the planet.

Ug Lee wrote: »

And out of interest why does Matt have a big tattoo of some Indian deity on his back?

dont confuse an appreciation of mythology with a belief in fairy tales

Ug Lee · 02-08-2010 01:51PM

SBG Ireland wrote: »

well i do believe in dogs so....

just being a smart ass but ive never heard him say that if you dont believe in god you are therefore intelligent...although it is interesting to note that 93% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences do not believe in a personal god...and they're probably the smartest people on the planet.

dont confuse an appreciation of mythology with a belief in fairy tales

Yep, I was paraphrasing. He gave the 93% statistic and seemed to lead that intelligent people don't belive in god and of course he does say that believing in god is ultimately bad for everyone. I just wonder whether taking away god from less intelligent people would be beneficial. I am not expecting an answer and I know it is the wrong forum. I was just thinking out loud.

SBG Ireland · 02-08-2010 02:23PM

well im happy to have the discussion....but like you say its on the wrong forum

cletus · 02-08-2010 02:24PM

Ug Lee wrote: »

I just wonder whether taking away god from less intelligent people would be beneficial. I am not expecting an answer and I know it is the wrong forum. I was just thinking out loud.

Quite a Marxian sentiment there Ug Lee

Ug Lee · 02-08-2010 06:28PM

cletus wrote: »

Quite a Marxian sentiment there Ug Lee

Maybe but only thoughts, not opinions.

crosstrainer1 · 05-08-2010 05:38PM

Doug Cartel wrote: »

I don't know about the other guys you mentioned, but Rick Young has had a lot more training than DVDs and a few seminars. Sure. he's done some long distance stuff, but he's also put in years of regular training at Edinburgh Judo - among other places - and has several BJJ Mundials golds to his name.

the info that i gave was to direct jkddublin to credited jkd instructors in the uk. if you want to contact anyone else in ireland abou jkd theres myself and martin oneil of jkd ireland ,by the way if anyone who has not trained in the basic material of jun fan jeet kune do really does not have an opinion, just because you watched enter the dragon or seen a documentory does not make you an expert on jkd

Liam50 · 05-08-2010 10:46PM

Crosstrainer1, are you saying that just because someone has not trained in jun fan jeet kune do that they have no right to comment on any of its techniques.

crosstrainer1 · 07-08-2010 02:41AM

Liam50 wrote: »

Crosstrainer1, are you saying that just because someone has not trained in jun fan jeet kune do that they have no right to comment on any of its techniques.

yes, how can you comment on something you know nothing about. eg a guy eats at a restaurant and orders a lasagna on seeing the food he says the the lasagna is not cook the way they do it i italy. the chef comes out and says to the guy, how long have you been making lasagna he says i have never made it but i have seen an italian cook makes it. so the chef says you have never experience the cooking method behind the making of a lasagna so how can you say that im right or wrong

yomchi · 07-08-2010 10:08AM

Shut the fcuk up and eat the lasagna

Doug Cartel · 07-08-2010 10:49AM

crosstrainer1 wrote: »

yes, how can you comment on something you know nothing about. eg a guy eats at a restaurant and orders a lasagna on seeing the food he says the the lasagna is not cook the way they do it i italy. the chef comes out and says to the guy, how long have you been making lasagna he says i have never made it but i have seen an italian cook makes it. so the chef says you have never experience the cooking method behind the making of a lasagna so how can you say that im right or wrong

That's a nice analogy. I'm not sure how it applies to this thread though.

If you could point out any factual errors I made about jun fan or JKD, that would be great. Actually I don't even remember making any comments about those things. I think I only commented on learning out of DVDs and Almeria's piss poor demonstration of tai-otoshi, a judo move.

Scott_Leonard · 11-12-2011 11:02PM

Well Lads. I'm from Waterford and lately I've had trouble deciding a martial art. My main experience before hand is a few years of boxing training with a month or two of muay thai. However since the leaving cert and going into college I haven't been training regularly. Just wondering if Jeet Kune Do is any good. Is there any clubs in Waterford btw and if so what is the price?

OLDMAN1 · 05-06-2012 03:32PM

jkddublin wrote: »

Hi

yes joaquim lives in las Vegas so I don't train with him in person,I trained with him long distance through books and dvd and now going to instructor camps this year.why would I affliate myself with guys up north,yes there under dan inosanto and there great guys but I woudn leave a teacher because he lives far.I do train in 5 different martial arts but I'm not getting into my martial arts back round and what grades etc as this is about jkd.I do 5 differnt arts,2 of which I am qualified instructor in and will be in future in the rest.

i know this is a old thrend but is this the same guy that is advertised in this months irish fighter on pages 22-23 and 29?

crosstrainer1 · 06-06-2012 05:48AM

i havent seen the artical yet (but i will today) but i was wondering who has given or has earned the right to teach jkd in ireland. Im not talking some weekend course or learning by books. but who has spent the time to travel over a long period of time and has achived their qualification by a highly reconised jkd instructor. So step up to the spotlight.

crosstrainer1 · 06-06-2012 05:57AM

this saturday top uk jkd instructor rick young will be hold a seminar in queens pec in belfast between 11.30 -4pm. other jkd instructors will be there so if you want experience jkd in ireland then contact the northen ireland martial arts association on facebook for full details.

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