[CoD Black Ops] News and Discussion

shawpower · 25-06-2010 04:19PM

Couple of things I've heard about Black Ops that stem from an industry "insider".

1. You can choose 2 perks yourself. Your choice determines what your 3rd perk is.
2. There will be an new armour system, with two examples being Cold Blooded and Juggernaut.
3. The Famas is back, but it's not burst fire.
4. No M4.
5. Other weapons include a Sig Commando, RPK, Scorpion, Mac11.
6. No Commando perk
7. Scavenger doesn't replenish equipment.
8. No One Man Army perk.
9. Highest Killstreak reward at the moment is 15
10. No emergency airdrop yet, but there is a care package.
11. There will be vehicles.
12. You can sprint to prone.
13. Tac knife is gone. But there is a ballistic knife. (knife with spring so like a throwing knife??)
14. Claymore is equipment so scavenger won't replenish it.
15. Grenades are not equipment so will replenish from Scavenger.
16. M16 is still the sh1t.
17. The PSG1 sniper rifle is in the game. (G3 sniper rifle)
18. UAV, Airstrike and 3 types of Chopper will be back. Pavelow is one of them but that has a unique feature to the game.
19. The SR71 is one of the killstreak rewards. This is the Blackbird, so maybe like the stealth bomber but smaller.

It's pretty much accepted elsewhere, but not mentioned here, that there will be beta testing, so any unbalanced items might drop out. Also, killstreaks don't build each other, so you only get them from gun/equipment kills.

Sounds like Treyarch are doing a good job so far!

iMuse · 25-06-2010 04:37PM

shawpower wrote: »

Also, killstreaks don't build each other, so you only get them from gun/equipment kills.

I really hope that this is true because that is the biggest flaw in MW2 for me. This should promote people to run and gun more making the gameplay more exciting and hopefully there will be less camping.

Shammy · 25-06-2010 04:41PM

bringing back jugga .....campers heaven
vehicles........noobs galore

otherwise i'm looking forward to it , but more so the next ghost recon

shawpower · 25-06-2010 04:43PM

iMuse wrote: »

I really hope that this is true because that is the biggest flaw in MW2 for me. This should promote people to run and gun more making the gameplay more exciting and hopefully there will be less camping.

It could actually work out more. Are you saying when someone gets to 10 kills their going to risk their streak by running around, or sit back and play defensive and pick people off? Hard to know. Hope it works out well though.

Kev_ps3 · 25-06-2010 04:44PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

World at War received high marks in virtually every review (Averaging 85%) and sold 13,000,000 copies - yes, Treyarch really needed to learn a lesson with that under performer! :rolleyes:

Im not talking about sales or reviews, Im talking about the actual gameplay:rolleyes:

TerrorFirmer · 26-06-2010 07:40PM

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Im not talking about sales or reviews, Im talking about the actual gameplay:rolleyes:

If something gets universal critical acclaim and sells by the absolute bucketload, it's generally an indication that regardless of whether or not you personally like the gameplay, that the general audience certainly did.

Shammy · 26-06-2010 07:56PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

If something gets universal critical acclaim and sells by the absolute bucketload, it's generally an indication that regardless of whether or not you personally like the gameplay, that the general audience certainly did.

Sorry i disagree , while i liked the single player mode the online i thought was terrible and traded it in within a few weeks.
Regardless of what i thought of the game, it did sell over 11 million copies mainly because of the success of cod 4.
If its universal critical acclaim was so great why did it not win at least one goty award ?

Kev_ps3 · 26-06-2010 08:07PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

If something gets universal critical acclaim and sells by the absolute bucketload, it's generally an indication that regardless of whether or not you personally like the gameplay, that the general audience certainly did.

You obviously know nothing about the cod community then. Its rubbish and the lack of people playing it online shows it.

TerrorFirmer · 26-06-2010 09:27PM

I've been playing it since it came out across PC and 360. Always plenty of players. Just because something didn't win a GOTY award doesn't mean it's not a great game - there are hundreds of games released every, obviously they can't all win the award. Personally I thought the online was brilliant - far more so on the PC then 360 though - but that's only an opinion, I wouldn't try and tell someone who thought that the game was poor otherwise, but I do think it's just a bit silly when people talk about the game with an air of 'everyone considers it incredibly sub standard'. Games don't sell 13,000,000 copies for no reason, nor do they receive positive media reviews, regardless of what they're based on or what franchise they stem from. Call of Duty 3 didn't sell as well as World at War, even based on the huge success of Call of Duty 2, nor did Call of Duty Finest Hour or Big Red One sell remotely as well as World at War, despite the incredibly strong franchise name at the time.

You obviously know nothing about the cod community then.

No need to get personal. I've been playing since Medal of Honor Allied Assault over 8 years ago; thats Call of Duty, United Offensive, Call of Duty 2, Call of Duty: Finest Hour, Call of Duty: Big Red One, Call of Duty 3, Modern Warfare, World at War, Modern Warfare 2, I've even played the handheld versions; the only ones I haven't played are Final Fronts, and Treyarchs conversion of Modern Warfare on the Wii. I don't know what exactly qualifies someone to be part of the 'community', but I Modern Warfare has produced it's own community over that of the previous games through sheer universal popularity. Me, personally I'd rather be playing COD2 or World at War, and I find simply being set in WW2 is enough for a great deal of newer COD fans to dismiss it instantly. I'm not saying that Modern Warfare isn't the better game - absolutely, of course it is. But World at War is a cracking game as well...in my opinion, of course.

Kev_ps3 · 26-06-2010 11:11PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I've been playing it since it came out across PC and 360. Always plenty of players. Just because something didn't win a GOTY award doesn't mean it's not a great game - there are hundreds of games released every, obviously they can't all win the award. Personally I thought the online was brilliant - far more so on the PC then 360 though - but that's only an opinion, I wouldn't try and tell someone who thought that the game was poor otherwise, but I do think it's just a bit silly when people talk about the game with an air of 'everyone considers it incredibly sub standard'. Games don't sell 13,000,000 copies for no reason, nor do they receive positive media reviews, regardless of what they're based on or what franchise they stem from. Call of Duty 3 didn't sell as well as World at War, even based on the huge success of Call of Duty 2, nor did Call of Duty Finest Hour or Big Red One sell remotely as well as World at War, despite the incredibly strong franchise name at the time.

No need to get personal. I've been playing since Medal of Honor Allied Assault over 8 years ago; thats Call of Duty, United Offensive, Call of Duty 2, Call of Duty: Finest Hour, Call of Duty: Big Red One, Call of Duty 3, Modern Warfare, World at War, Modern Warfare 2, I've even played the handheld versions; the only ones I haven't played are Final Fronts, and Treyarchs conversion of Modern Warfare on the Wii. I don't know what exactly qualifies someone to be part of the 'community', but I Modern Warfare has produced it's own community over that of the previous games through sheer universal popularity. Me, personally I'd rather be playing COD2 or World at War, and I find simply being set in WW2 is enough for a great deal of newer COD fans to dismiss it instantly. I'm not saying that Modern Warfare isn't the better game - absolutely, of course it is. But World at War is a cracking game as well...in my opinion, of course.

It sold 13 million because it was part of the cod series.

Big Baby Jaysus · 27-06-2010 10:22AM

i dont care what anybody say's,World at War is a great game,i bought it again there last week and there is still plenty of people playing it.

Oafley Jones · 27-06-2010 12:35PM

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

It sold 13 million because it was part of the cod series.

While it had an incredibly strong first week on release, the game's sales would have been no where near 13 million if there was bad word of mouth.

hangedhitman · 27-06-2010 09:47PM

were all going to say its a great game when it comes out but at about this time next year were all going its terrbile at the end of the day you cant get everything right with a game:mad:

TheChrisD · 04-07-2010 01:12AM

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/02/scope-out-the-latest-call-of-duty-black-ops-shots/

Latest screenshots

There's an awful lot of AUG's in that...

krudler · 04-07-2010 02:08AM

Looks cool, will wait to see actul gameplay but hopefully it wont disappoint.

What kind stuff are people hoping to see in it? great that commando pro is gone but I hope theres still something in it that stops falling damage, I dont think anyone has a problem with that.

Jev/N · 04-07-2010 05:09AM

TheChrisD wrote: »

There's an awful lot of AUG's in that...

AUG and M16, although the probable weapon list is here...

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Call_of_Duty:_Black_Ops

extremebogman · 04-07-2010 09:15AM

TheChrisD wrote: »

There's an awful lot of AUG's in that...

And why not? It's quite a beastly rifle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YfJY79vIRQ

TheChrisD · 04-07-2010 09:51AM

extremebogman wrote: »

And why not? It's quite a beastly rifle

Nothing wrong with it, just about time it came to the game in it's A1 or A3 from, rather than as the HBAR LMG.

Leucifer · 04-07-2010 12:12PM

Take a look at who's making a return

Have to say he was a good character in WaW.

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Reznov

Pic from Black Ops:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100620132017/callofduty/images/1/17/CoDbo-Reznov.jpg

I've seen it mentioned that he's supposed to have defected to the West after WW2, but one of the missions he's in is set in 1968. If he's the same character he'd have to be around 60 (if not 70) by then? He had to be at least 40 in WaW.

Unless it's kinda like Cpt. Price from COD4, wasn't he in the earlier COD games?

Leeg17 · 17-07-2010 02:07PM

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

Take a look at the balcony in the background.

ZOMBIES!!!!!

wandatowell · 18-07-2010 03:19AM

Whats with all the hatin'? WaW was great and the MP fookin rocked. STG 44 all the way. I didnt like it at first but it grew on me. Aint played it in a while though. Roll on the next installment I say!!!!

TaytoCrisps · 18-07-2010 06:11AM

Not to mention Nazi zombies in WaW , hours of fun online . worth purchasing the map packs for new Zombies alone, still play the odd round of Zombies these days when i get sick of MW2

JeanClaude · 18-07-2010 02:11PM

Leucifer wrote: »

Take a look at who's making a return Have to say he was a good character in WaW.

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Reznov

Pic from Black Ops:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100620132017/callofduty/images/1/17/CoDbo-Reznov.jpg

I've seen it mentioned that he's supposed to have defected to the West after WW2, but one of the missions he's in is set in 1968. If he's the same character he'd have to be around 60 (if not 70) by then? He had to be at least 40 in WaW.

Unless it's kinda like Cpt. Price from COD4, wasn't he in the earlier COD games?

Looks very young in Black Ops pic,could be just a coincidence or maybe his Son????

docdolittle · 18-07-2010 02:19PM

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpoJBcYlkLI

When I saw the screen on the youtube vid, I thought 'Ah FFS! Activision put a fúcking iPad in the game!'

Wouldn't be bad for a UAV app! :P Wouldn't be suprised if they started advertising everywhere in their games now :P

Leucifer · 18-07-2010 04:49PM

JeanClaude wrote: »

Looks very young in Black Ops pic,could be just a coincidence or maybe his Son????

I was thinking the same. Then again, the original CoD games (set in WW2) had a Cpt. Price who was practically the same as the CoD4 Price. Maybe it's a character reboot of sorts?

JeanClaude · 18-07-2010 05:10PM

docdolittle wrote: »

When I saw the screen on the youtube vid, I thought 'Ah FFS! Activision put a fúcking iPad in the game!' Wouldn't be bad for a UAV app! :P Wouldn't be suprised if they started advertising everywhere in their games now :P

Thats a level from the Single player mode....

from what I gather you can control where the 4 fellas go and you eventually become one of them, where you put them affects the difficulty of the level..i.e whether your spotted by the enemy or not

I'll search for the youtube video* shortly, it'll explain it better..:D

*Can't find it for the life of me...will look again tonight...Sorry...:)

NUTZZ · 19-07-2010 01:58PM

I don't think this has been posted anywhere yet;

MurfyAthea · 19-07-2010 02:40PM

Will xbox be getting new downloadable content before ps3 again like mw2 map packs? That is really frustrating!

Shammy · 28-07-2010 03:06PM

Wonder if there will be a beta and when it will be released.

Enigma IE · 29-07-2010 02:51PM

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Crossbow

wikia has a list of some of the weapons that are confirmed for Black Ops, looking forward to some cross bow action!! Probably not as much fun as the throwing knives though!

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