Very little Irish people working at Oxegen!

Oh, I see :He meant few!!

I have a question,do they pay tax?

They should pay tax in England, if that is where they are resident. That is all.

feelingstressed wrote: »

Every thread on immigration or unemployment and somebody posts this.
How original, you have nothing else to add?

Cause being real pissy and pretentious is so helpful and original alright...

Jev/N wrote: »

Most of the festivals have security from the UK, very often a lot of Scottish actually

If they're not PSA registered then they're opperating illegally AFAIK.

http://www.isia.ie/isia/Main/Home.htm

I worked every summer as barman and then bar supervisor at Galway Races, one of the largest festivals in Ireland

Galway locals were hired for bar, restaurant and cleaning jobs.
It was in the paper, anyone can apply, just do an interview

Seems here that some people think Irish people won't do these jobs? :
Why, it's a great job, good craic, you'll meet lots of people and the money is decent.
"Irish people think they are too good for a cleaning job" is what I see here a lot, why? It was mainly locals that did these jobs, of all ages.

Also, a local company was used for security, it was a big operation.
edit, Sword Security was the name of the company

The catering company was from Galway

it was only the same foreigners who took those jobs that the Irish turned up their noses at!

That line is also rubbish. And also a middle class line. Upper middle class, in fact. It's a don't need to worry about getting through college line.


Its quite clear that nobody in Ireland was "putting their noses up". Small Irish shops used to have, in general.

1) Irish full time ( or rather long serving, they could well be part time) staff - one, or two - often in their 50's. Mostly female.
2) Part time staff of 18-22 year olds, often paying through college.

My aunt was in position 1) and was clearly replaced by an immigrant. For number 2) plenty of lower middle class, and working class people in universities have suffered same.

So what confuses the bourgeoisie. The fact is - nobody disputes this - that Irish people used to do these jobs and in a period of 4 years stopped visibly doing those jobs , so the people totally unaffected by this could whine about Irish people being too good for those jobs, as if the unskilled working classes miraculously became Doctors, Lawyers and Bankers in a period of 4 years.

No they were replaced. Jobs were turked.

Pittens wrote: »

1) Irish full time ( or rather long serving, they could well be part time) staff - one, or two - often in their 50's. Mostly female.

The fact is long serving Irish people are too expensive. Some people in medium to large retail and industrial sectors got cushy pay deals at the beginning of boom time nergotiated through the unions which meant they were allowed to basically stay in the same position and keep collecting the pay rises. Economies don't work this way, and the over consumption it led to created alot of the crash.

What you were left with was middle aged people who had been working at entry level at an over inflated wage with no intention of self improvement because there was guaranteed financial growth without the need for increased responsibility. Basically you had people sitting on the tills in a supermarket earning €20-€25 per hour. I even know of one group of pharmaceutical production line workers who have amassed salary increases over the past decade or so that has left them earning close to €80k. Totally unsustainable.

The knock on effect is that employers look for foreign workers who have less sense of entitlement to certain wages and also are not looking to work in the same entry level position for 30 years, so the company won't be subjected to pay rises for long term staff. While Johnny Irish man may stand on his soapbox and say he's never turn down a job, economic trends clearly show there is less profit to be had by employing him.

With regard to the festivals, these are run for the highest profit possible. Cost of living and wages are lower in the UK, so the companies tendering in the UK can come in at a lower cost, thus maximising profit for the organisers.

As for the suggestion that there may be cash in hand work going on, this is nonsense. Festivals are one of the high risk events for security providers, so you need everybody on the books and comprehensively insured.

tl;dr we caused the need for foreign workers through our greed. Foreign workers are cheaper than locals. Companies want to make money.