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Very little Irish people working at Oxegen!

  • 13-07-2010 10:28pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭


    A lot of english stewards etc working at Oxegen this year, even most of the fast food outlets. I was talking to 2 friendly guys from London working as stewards and they were laughing at how we can't organise anything :mad:

    It's sad since its one of the biggest festivals in europe but it employs so much outsiders


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Whats new?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭The Express


    You didn't go to Oxygen to see an all-Irish line up on stage, why the hell do you care about the nationality of the guy selling you a bag of chips????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭KittyeeTrix


    Very little Irish people working in all of Ireland at the moment tbh:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭neilthefunkeone


    Possibly no security company big enough in the country to handle an event of this size..

    Same at picnic.. And what food stalls do we have to offer.. Abrakebabra and the chicken fillet roll stand!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    who cares?

    Irish people still seem to have a chip on their shoulder that they are better than certain jobs.

    until they get rid of that chip, they won't working.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭Keogg


    Actually I thought there was plenty if Irish stewards around the place - all the ones I talked to were Irish, even the doctors in the A&E tent (a friend got really drunk)

    But did you really expect the people selling you food to be irish? Why would oxegen be any different to any other fast food place in ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    All the Irish young 'uns that could have worked it were too busy rolling around in the mud...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Very little Irish people working in all of Ireland at the moment tbh:)

    What, leprechauns? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Peppapig wrote: »
    Very little Irish people working at Oxegen!

    Fuckin' leprachauns.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    All the Irish lads would be off their tits after five minutes and we would be reading a post about they scammed their way in for free into Oxegen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Peppapig wrote: »
    A lot of english stewards etc working at Oxegen this year, even most of the fast food outlets. I was talking to 2 friendly guys from London working as stewards and they were laughing at how we can't organise anything :mad:

    It's sad since its one of the biggest festivals in europe but it employs so much outsiders

    Do you take money in exchange for alcohol and food?

    You do?

    Excellent.

    What's that?

    You're not Irish?

    So fucking what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    They are all in oztralia farming sheeples or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    who cares?

    Irish people still seem to have a chip on their shoulder that they are better than certain jobs.

    until they get rid of that chip, they won't working.

    Speak for yourself:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭Peppapig


    What I meant was that its not exactly hard to be a steward! Lot of unemployed Irish people and all those jobs for english people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    There are a few good reasons why security aren't Irish.

    That said, the company I work for has primarily Irish staff. I think we do have a couple of foreigners not sure how many but of the 100 staff there 95 were definitely Irish.

    Mostly due to them beign the ones who know the bosses though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Peppapig wrote: »
    What I meant was that its not exactly hard to be a steward! Lot of unemployed Irish people and all those jobs for english people?

    Exactly.

    What jobs did those Brits ever give Irish people?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭storm2811


    Whoever the employer thinks is better for the job will get the job,that's it really,not much to do with where they're from.

    If the Irish person wasn't fit for the job and the English person was,who would you hire?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Peppapig wrote: »
    A lot of english stewards etc working at Oxegen this year, even most of the fast food outlets. I was talking to 2 friendly guys from London working as stewards and they were laughing at how we can't organise anything :mad:

    It's sad since its one of the biggest festivals in europe but it employs so much outsiders

    Probably on £5 an hour .................To employ Irish guys would cost at least € 10 an hour .

    An Englishman has £45 dole , an Irishman has € 196 dole

    We cannot compete .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    Peppapig wrote: »
    A lot of english stewards etc working at Oxegen this year, even most of the fast food outlets. I was talking to 2 friendly guys from London working as stewards and they were laughing at how we can't organise anything :mad:

    It's sad since its one of the biggest festivals in europe but it employs so much outsiders

    If you are so bothered by this I hoped you helped the (Irish) scouts that were there for charity :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Damn racist thread ;):D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    gurramok wrote: »
    Damn racist thread ;):D

    You're bored arent you :D instigator :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    Most of the festivals have security from the UK, very often a lot of Scottish actually


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    orourkeda wrote: »

    Every thread on immigration or unemployment and somebody posts this.
    How original, you have nothing else to add?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    I have a question,do they pay tax?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Send em all home I say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    mike65 wrote: »
    Send em all home I say.

    Exactly, deport 'em , they tuk arr jobs!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭lol5605


    All the Irish lads would be off their tits after five minutes and we would be reading a post about they scammed their way in for free into Oxegen.
    When your working there or at any festival you have to put a deposit down in the case you do this its, after your done working you get it back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    i was at T in the park in scotland at the weekend and most of the stewards seemed english too. who really cares? all the touts outside were scouse!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭magma69


    Very little Irish people working at Oxegen!

    Little people can be good workers too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭longhalloween


    Bambi wrote: »
    What, leprechauns? :confused:

    Ah... beat me to it!! :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    storm2811 wrote: »
    Whoever the employer thinks is better for the job will get the job,that's it really,not much to do with where they're from.

    If the Irish person wasn't fit for the job and the English person was,who would you hire?

    Um, no. That's not entirely true.

    Eventsec just put in the lowest bid and then they bus their employee's over from Mainland England and down from Northern Ireland to work.

    It's an open tender worth ALOT of money, and event sec have gotten it the last few years and are working in more and more places each year.

    It makes sense for a few reasons really, but still kinda **** given it's an Irish Festival!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Like Midgets? I would have gone had I known!
    Thread title gave me a good lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭Pittens


    Oh, I see :He meant few!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    DEY TUK OUR JAWWBSSS!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    caseyann wrote: »
    I have a question,do they pay tax?

    A really valid point .

    My answer is probably not - these jobs do tend to be cash in hand


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭Pittens


    DEY TUK OUR JAWWBSSS!!

    right, note to all.

    If the thread is about Irish vs Foreign workers and you are quoting from the DEY TUrK OUR JAWWBSSS line from SouthPark, or linking to it from any page other than page 1 of a thread, and from later than the first 6 posts note this:

    you are too late.

    read the damned thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭Pittens


    I have a question,do they pay tax?

    They should pay tax in England, if that is where they are resident. That is all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Pittens wrote: »
    right, note to all.

    If the thread is about Irish vs Foreign workers and you are quoting from the DEY TUrK OUR JAWWBSSS line from SouthPark, or linking to it from any page other than page 1 of a thread, and from later than the first 6 posts note this:

    you are too late.

    read the damned thread.
    I cant open links, and for me it is still on the first page :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭jighooligan


    Every thread on immigration or unemployment and somebody posts this.
    How original, you have nothing else to add?

    Cause being real pissy and pretentious is so helpful and original alright...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭storm2811


    Um, no. That's not entirely true.

    Eventsec just put in the lowest bid and then they bus their employee's over from Mainland England and down from Northern Ireland to work.

    It's an open tender worth ALOT of money, and event sec have gotten it the last few years and are working in more and more places each year.

    It makes sense for a few reasons really, but still kinda **** given it's an Irish Festival!

    Ahh,didn't know that,just thought anyone could apply really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Jev/N wrote: »
    Most of the festivals have security from the UK, very often a lot of Scottish actually


    If they're not PSA registered then they're opperating illegally AFAIK.

    http://www.isia.ie/isia/Main/Home.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Festivals are big, one-off events so most companies that work at them are geared towards working at a number of them over the course of the summer - packing up and moving from festival to festival as required. Some of the companies best equipped to do this happen to be Scottish and English, since Britain has far more festivals than Ireland does so it's easier to get such a company off the ground there.

    Ugly rumour would also have it that employing from abroad makes it a little harder for people to follow up complaints they might have with individual members of security. But I'm sure that's just mean-spirited and unfounded conjecture that has no place on post-Oxegengate boards.ie. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭dcukhunter


    I work for an Irish based security company and we had abot 300-400 security there not all were from Ireland but at least 90-95% of them were.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    There are a few good reasons why security aren't Irish.

    That said, the company I work for has primarily Irish staff. I think we do have a couple of foreigners not sure how many but of the 100 staff there 95 were definitely Irish.

    Mostly due to them beign the ones who know the bosses though.

    I'd say 5 of them were foreign. :)

    Anyway, http://www.takeourjobs.org/

    Also, Dublin from an American perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krNqCH4qBro&NR=1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭Kev_ps3


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    DEY TUK OUR JAWWBSSS!!

    I hate this line. Usually from some middle-class ponce who doesn't know anything about competing with foreigners for low paid work.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kev_ps3 wrote: »
    I hate this line. Usually from some middle-class ponce who doesn't know anything about competing with foreigners for low paid work.

    That sums up the current situation quite nicely, four years ago, it was only the same foreigners who took those jobs that the Irish turned up their noses at!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭Gillington


    lol5605 wrote: »
    When your working there or at any festival you have to put a deposit down in the case you do this its, after your done working you get it back.

    Not for Oxegen you don't,well I didnt.

    We had about 90 staff down there and I think only 2-3 were foreign.Security were Eventsec and another crowd,mostly Northen Irish or English,they travel to festivals all over England and Europe and as far as I see it is if they are as good as security companies here why shouldnt organisers hire them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    Peppapig wrote: »
    What I meant was that its not exactly hard to be a steward! Lot of unemployed Irish people and all those jobs for english people?


    Because minimising the amount of Irish people doing the jobs like security reduces the amount of people who could smuggle in drink/drungs for friends/dealers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I worked every summer as barman and then bar supervisor at Galway Races, one of the largest festivals in Ireland

    Galway locals were hired for bar, restaurant and cleaning jobs.
    It was in the paper, anyone can apply, just do an interview

    Seems here that some people think Irish people won't do these jobs? :
    Why, it's a great job, good craic, you'll meet lots of people and the money is decent.
    "Irish people think they are too good for a cleaning job" is what I see here a lot, why? :confused: It was mainly locals that did these jobs, of all ages.

    Also, a local company was used for security, it was a big operation.
    edit, Sword Security was the name of the company

    The catering company was from Galway


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