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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Weeks to Island 5k
    05-07-10|12.5|7:01 Overall|Med w/lg int's|Very warm but windy|2
    06-07-10|4.3|7:11|Aerobic|Drizzly with wind|2
    07-07-10|4.2|7:22|Aerobic|Very windy|2
    08-07-10|6|6:58p|Aerobic|A bit windy|2
    |7|7:12p|Aerobic|Drizzly|2
    09-07-10|3|8:06|Recovery|Dull but very warm|2
    [EMAIL="|7|w/5@5:52p|GSK5"]|7|w/5@5:52p|GSK5[/EMAIL] Race|rain and wind|2
    10-07-10|Rest||||2
    11-07-10|||||2


    GSK5 - 29:23 Unofficial

    Better than Dromana so i am happy with that but could and should have been sub 29 if i really wanted it,but sadly i didnt,to happy to take it easy in parts and then could not be bothered to grind when i knew sub 29 was gone.
    I am not really a grinder and i have to start if i want to ever get sub 27:30 ( a target down the line )

    The weather was very bad driving up but like Cork wasn't that bad really when we got running.

    I positioned myself 3 rows back from the front,as there was no chip timing i wanted every second i could get.
    First mile off like a rocket....only 6/7 ahead of me and i knew i was going to fast...quick look at the watch showed 5:15p....wo...time to slow down,passed through mile 1 in 5:39...PB pace i thought...mile 2 was mostly sheltered and slowed the pace for that mile 5:50, but then we took a right and a stiff wind and a nice hill to climb ( the hill you come down on mile 10 of the dungarvan 10 )...i was bunched in at that point but tbh was content to slow a bit...mile 3 6:03,we took a left then which got rid of the wind but a few small rolling hills to encounter before a couple of downhill stretches to get to mile 4 in 5:55...so 1 to go and i was not prepared to push to hard,i knew another steady mile would get me sub 29:30 and i took that with a mile to go...there is a steady enough climb to take with about 0.8m left that lasts about 400/500m so that could kill you if you were borderline,but i just clipped away and with a few just ahead of me,never once thought of beating them...which is unlike me...i am a bit dissapointed with my mindset going into the race,only on the way home with SG ( who made his comeback tonight,just outside 35 mins...well done pal ) i was saying that if its not a target race for me or a chance at a PB is gone i tune out and am happy to clip home without pushing out the boundaries...next weeks 5k is a target race and i will be pushing there...no doubt in that.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/39808056

    As for gringo's thoughts earlier,the tired legs maybe were a slight factor but not to much i dont think,sub 29 was there tonight,i just chose not to push for it,i didnt even think about being tired until mile 3 and by then you have less than 12 mins to go....

    I will do at least one more 5 miler this summer,maybe 2 and i will push for at least one of them.

    Med 10-15|Med w/Intervals|Aerobic|Vo2|Recovery|Race|Total
    3|1|6|2|3|2|18


    Wk 1|Wk 2|Wk 3|Wk 4
    37.9|38.9||


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭tisnotover


    Sosa wrote: »
    GSK5 - 29:23 Unofficial

    Better than Dromana so i am happy with that but could and should have been sub 29 if i really wanted it,but sadly i didnt,to happy to take it easy in parts and then could not be bothered to grind when i knew sub 29 was gone.

    I think u should stop reading my log, the conservative approach is contageous.

    The "happy to take it easy in parts" is sh*t, your run last nite, was neither racing to ure potential nor a tempo run*. It will stand to you though, especially after running at a fair clip the day before as well.

    I know you'll go balls out for the 5k.
    Come down to the Ballycotton 5 in August and smash that 29 ! :)

    *Returning some motivation after you gave me some yesterday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭village runner


    tisnotover wrote: »
    I think u should stop reading my log, the conservative approach is contageous.

    The "happy to take it easy in parts" is sh*t, your run last nite, was neither racing to ure potential nor a tempo run*. It will stand to you though, especially after running at a fair clip the day before as well.

    I know you'll go balls out for the 5k.
    Come down to the Ballycotton 5 in August and smash that 29 ! :)

    *Returning some motivation after you gave me some yesterday
    What is the ballycotton route ?? Is it fast. Would love to do one of those.
    Well done sosa. ~Nice time for a 90% effort.
    Glad i done my long one instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    tisnotover wrote: »
    I think u should stop reading my log, the conservative approach is contageous.

    The "happy to take it easy in parts" is sh*t, your run last nite, was neither racing to ure potential nor a tempo run*. It will stand to you though, especially after running at a fair clip the day before as well.

    I know you'll go balls out for the 5k.
    Come down to the Ballycotton 5 in August and smash that 29 ! :)

    *Returning some motivation after you gave me some yesterday

    Yeah,all out 100% next Sunday...looking forward to it.
    I said all along that the dromana race and last nights were just stepping stones to next week and i knocked 25s off my dromana time last night,next week though is different...16:59 is 5:27p :eek:
    Absolutely no hiding places there.
    What is the ballycotton route ?? Is it fast. Would love to do one of those.
    Well done sosa. ~Nice time for a 90% effort.
    Glad i done my long one instead.

    I am considering it myself VR,im working that Thursday so will be half way there and it would be handy...would like a bit of info on the route also tno...thanks

    Possible fast 5m in ballinameela ( close to dungarvan ) the week after Ardmore fri aug 13th which is another favourable route i am told.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭tisnotover


    Sosa, village runner, preview of Ballycotton 5 (from last yr) here, course is same every year.
    http://corkrunning.blogspot.com/2009_08_01_archive.html

    maymyrun data is here:
    http://www.mapmyrun.com/run/ireland/cork/453964670

    First two miles downhill, flat, third mile rolls a bit, with sharp uphill section at 3.5mile bit, then it rolls to the finish. last two miles can be very fast if you have it in the legs. well worth the trip !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    tisnotover wrote: »
    Sosa, village runner, preview of Ballycotton 5 (from last yr) here, course is same every year.
    http://corkrunning.blogspot.com/2009_08_01_archive.html

    maymyrun data is here:
    http://www.mapmyrun.com/run/ireland/cork/453964670

    First two miles downhill, flat, third mile rolls a bit, with sharp uphill section at 3.5mile bit, then it rolls to the finish. last two miles can be very fast if you have it in the legs. well worth the trip !

    Thanks tno...the course looks ok...but that start line does not appeal to me tbh.
    Also,if its a 7:30 start...
    When would i want to be arriving in ballycotton ?
    How far out do i have to park ?
    -thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Weeks to Island 5k
    05-07-10|12.5|7:01 Overall|Med w/lg int's|Very warm but windy|2
    06-07-10|4.3|7:11|Aerobic|Drizzly with wind|2
    07-07-10|4.2|7:22|Aerobic|Very windy|2
    08-07-10|6|6:58p|Aerobic|A bit windy|2
    |7|7:12p|Aerobic|Drizzly|2
    09-07-10|3|8:06|Recovery|Dull but very warm|2
    |7|w/5@5:52p|GSK5 Race|rain and wind|2
    10-07-10|Rest||||2
    11-07-10|5|7:08|Aerobic|Fantastic|2


    Early morning run before work today,
    I did the GSK route again with the birds at 6:45...and it was glorious.
    First mile was slow...just under 8,but after that i clipped along...finishing under 36 mins and would have loved another 5.

    Thats 49m for the week,my highest since Cork and best by far.
    Two great sessions on mon and fri along with the faster paced aerobic runs...i am very happy with the week.
    Really looking forward to next Sunday...

    Med 10-15|Med w/Intervals|Aerobic|Vo2|Recovery|Race|Total
    3|1|7|2|3|2|18


    Wk 1|Wk 2|Wk 3|Wk 4
    37.9|38.9|49|


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭tisnotover


    Sosa wrote: »
    Thanks tno...the course looks ok...but that start line does not appeal to me tbh.
    Also,if its a 7:30 start...
    When would i want to be arriving in ballycotton ?
    How far out do i have to park ?
    -thanks

    I'd try and get there for 6:30, at VERY latest 7. Carpark is 1/2 to 3/4 mile away from registration (+changing), so allow for that. Ya know yourself like, the earlier u are, the more of a warm-up u can do.

    Start can be pretty mental, but for the time you'll be going for, put yourself 2/3 rows bk at most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    tisnotover wrote: »
    put yourself 2/3 rows bk at most.

    easier said than done,only thing putting me off is the journey home after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭village runner


    Sosa wrote: »
    easier said than done,only thing putting me off is the journey home after.
    Take it you are working in dungarvan now. If it suits i will pick you up after work and have a little company on the way. Might even organise a shower in youghal on the way home. If i am doing it i will give you a shout.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Take it you are working in dungarvan now. If it suits i will pick you up after work and have a little company on the way. Might even organise a shower in youghal on the way home. If i am doing it i will give you a shout.

    grand job VR,let me know nearer the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Days to Island 5k
    12-07-10|8|w/4*1k@5:23p|Long Intervals|Rain|6
    13-07-10|||||5
    14-07-10|||||4
    15-07-10|||||3
    16-07-10|||||2
    17-07-10|||||1
    18-07-10|||||Race Day


    Not the best day for intervals but off i went in glorious rain.
    2m warm up around 7:30p ....then 4*1k @ 5:19,5:19,5:27,5:26 w/3mins recovery inbetween....2m warm down then back up home a bit slower that 7:30 this time.

    Again,i could not see the pace i was running but knew the first 2 sets were faster than the last 2 before i checked afterwards.
    So technically that was 2*1k @3kp and 2*1k @ 5kp ...how bad...a double session ...( kind of )
    the fastest i could go last week were the last 2 sets so its progress to be able to get 2 @ 3kp today.

    I hope to get out later for a recovery 6...50/50 chance of that happening.

    Med 10-15|Med w/Intervals|Aerobic|Vo2|Recovery|Race|Total
    3|1|7|3|3|2|19


    Wk 1|Wk 2|Wk 3|Wk 4
    37.9|38.9|49|


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Days to Island 5k
    12-07-10|8|w/4*1k@5:23p|Long Intervals|Rain|6
    |5.3|7:56|Recovery|More Rain|6
    13-07-10|||||5
    14-07-10|||||4
    15-07-10|||||3
    16-07-10|||||2
    17-07-10|||||1
    18-07-10|||||Race Day


    Got ou for my recovery run before dinner thankfully.
    A 5.3m route that was a little different than usual to get a few hills in there,started off a bit fast but the last 3m were about 8:15p.....

    Med long tomorrow,how ya fixed SG...12m around 7:30 pace.

    Med 10-15|Med w/Intervals|Aerobic|Vo2|Recovery|Race|Total
    3|1|7|4|3|2|20


    Wk 1|Wk 2|Wk 3|Wk 4
    37.9|38.9|49|


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Days to Island 5k
    12-07-10|8|w/4*1k@5:23p|Long Intervals|Rain|6
    |5.3|7:56|Recovery|More Rain|6
    13-07-10|9|7:41|Aerobic|WINDY !|5
    14-07-10|||||4
    15-07-10|||||3
    16-07-10|||||2
    17-07-10|||||1
    18-07-10|||||Race Day


    9 slow,horrible,tiring miles in windy conditions over hills this morning.
    I dont know what i was thinking picking this route as i was knackered before i started but off i went and i was happy to see the end of it.
    I planned 12,then 10,then 8,but did 9 as a compromise to myself.

    No running now until Friday evening,i need a little break before the w/e.

    Med 10-15|Med w/Intervals|Aerobic|Vo2|Recovery|Race|Total
    3|1|8|4|3|2|21


    Wk 1|Wk 2|Wk 3|Wk 4
    37.9|38.9|49|


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Just realised that the race Sunday clashes with round 4 of the Open....
    Not happy about that,Sunday at the Open is feet up on the couch day for me every year ( if i can get away with it,i usually pray for rain so we dont have to go anywhere )...ah well no hanging around after...home by 4 at the latest to get the last 2 hours


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭ManFromAtlantis


    yae feel your pain. esp as mcilroy and mcdowell will be in contention coming down the 18th.

    just run faster, and you'll see more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Days to Island 5k
    12-07-10|Rest||||6
    13-07-10|8|w/4*1k@5:23p|Long Intervals|Rain|5
    |5.3|7:56|Recovery|More Rain|5
    14-07-10|9|7:41|Aerobic|WINDY !|4
    15-07-10|Rest||||3
    16-07-10|5.3|7:27|Aerobic|Windy|2
    17-07-10|||||1
    18-07-10|||||Race Day


    very tired today and only managed 5.3m...
    Similar tomorrow and race Sunday.

    Med 10-15|Med w/Intervals|Aerobic|Vo2|Recovery|Race|Total
    3|1|9|4|3|2|22


    Wk 1|Wk 2|Wk 3|Wk 4
    37.9|38.9|49|


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭tisnotover


    All the best tomorrow Sosa, give it socks !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Days to Island 5k
    12-07-10|Rest||||6
    13-07-10|8|w/4*1k@5:23p|Long Intervals|Rain|5
    |5.3|7:56|Recovery|More Rain|5
    14-07-10|9|7:41|Aerobic|WINDY !|4
    15-07-10|Rest||||3
    16-07-10|5.3|7:27|Aerobic|Windy|2
    17-07-10|Rest||||1
    [EMAIL="18-07-10|9.5|w/5k@5:41p|Race|Rain and Wind|Race"]18-07-10|9.5|w/5k@5:41p|Race|Rain and Wind|Race[/EMAIL] Day


    Island 5k - 17:45 Unofficial

    A dissapointing result in the end,i had this as a target race but the preperation the last couple of weeks has not been great and therefore i knew going into it that sub 17 was unlikely today,but i was willing to give it everything to find out how close i could get.

    I did a nice warm up of 3m to the island with SG,nice and easy,got there in plenty of time,had a chat with a few other runners and got ready to go,did another 2/3k around the course just before the off with a few strides in there for good measure.

    Off we went bang on time and quickly 9 runners were ahead of me and moving very well,slight drag to start and then down hill for a bit before we went into a little estate of solar powered houses on the island where we met our first u turn,all going well here and we headed out of the estate and down the first hill,this was fairly treacharous tbh,i was forced to slow going down here as i saw one person have a bad fall and heard of others when we finished...through mile 1 in 5:26...bang on pace...then up the first hill which is not so bad and i composed myself a bit for the second lap,careful not to blow up...tuned out a bit here and ended up with a 5:41 mile...still going well though and headed down the bad hill again on the second lap again cautiously and obviously losing time again...uphill again the 3rd u turn now and the final 2k and i though i was still going well only to see that i was going 6:10 pace...tuned out again here and tried to push the pace going down the last downhill before the last tough climb which absolutely killed me,i had nothing for this hill,what i needed here was to hear footsteps behind me to spur me on,but a look over the shoulder and nobody close enough to trouble me to the finish,got to the top of the hill and turned left then to a lovely finish,slightly downhill of about 300m and i legged it in..to little to late though and a frustrating race for me.


    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/40870544



    Positives to take though,i went through 3k in 10:20 ( 5:32p ) and was comfortable enough at that stage,the last 2k were a struggle...i make it 7:25 for the last 2k ( 5:58p)...tells its own tale.

    Negatives for today were the conditions,its a tough course anyway with the hills but it was dangerous enough out there,a few bad falls from people and i was a bit nervous at times going around the uturns and down that big hill which was fairly wet.

    All in all not happy with the time but on another day i would have been much closer to 17,but i still would not have nipped under it,i need another few weeks of intervals to get back to where i was and get under 17 mins...i will do it next year all going well.

    I am leaning more to the Ballycotton 5m late august as my next target race....will have to consult my race calendar during the week to decide where i go from here.


    Med 10-15|Med w/Intervals|Aerobic|Vo2|Recovery|Race|Total
    3|1|9|4|3|3|23


    Wk 1|Wk 2|Wk 3|Wk 4
    37.9|38.9|49|37.1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭seanynova


    congrats on the race, even if it didnt go to plan...im sure you could find a faster, if not an easier/safer 5k race which you could push the pace harder and go closer to the sub17 target.
    still, a 17:45 via mcmillan would get you into the low 2:50's for a marathon...

    you sticking to the shorter stuff for a while? any plans for another marathon(and im not talking about the marathon drinking session after yesterdays result!)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭Speedy44


    decent run on a tough course. Like you said, the times will drop with more interval sessions.Congrats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    seanynova wrote: »
    congrats on the race, even if it didnt go to plan...im sure you could find a faster, if not an easier/safer 5k race which you could push the pace harder and go closer to the sub17 target.
    still, a 17:45 via mcmillan would get you into the low 2:50's for a marathon...

    you sticking to the shorter stuff for a while? any plans for another marathon(and im not talking about the marathon drinking session after yesterdays result!)

    Yeah,dont know when i will do another marathon,another baby joining us late october so Dublin is out and not sure if i could give the time and dedication for Cork next year.
    Speedy44 wrote: »
    decent run on a tough course. Like you said, the times will drop with more interval sessions.Congrats

    Absolutely,today highlighted that....back to the 400's and 800's....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭theboyblunder


    great run sosa. super time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭tisnotover


    Great running all same Sosa, especially to push on and grind it out again, when you saw you were down on pace with 2k to go.

    I think a bit of it too is that this is the fastest you've raced since marathon and the pace takes a bit of getting used to, especially for 5k's.

    400's/800's , mite be the answer, and picking out a 5miler like Ballycotton is a great idea. Onwards and Upwards !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭ManFromAtlantis


    yea great run and time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭Gringo78


    Sosa wrote: »
    All in all not happy with the time but on another day i would have been much closer to 17,but i still would not have nipped under it,i need another few weeks of intervals to get back to where i was and get under 17 mins...i will do it next year all going well.

    I am leaning more to the Ballycotton 5m late august as my next target race

    Well done on the 5k....I know you're a bit put out by being so much off pace but I think a 5k needs a few attempts. I'm running one again tomorrow evening so I'll see if I've improved from 2 weeks ago.

    Hate to point out the bleeding obvious but I think we're gas....we run a marathon, feel really comfortable and strong doing it cos we've endurance dripping out of us after having followed a program which avoided any type of VO2 or even anaerobic work. We then expect less than 6 weeks later to be sprint kings churning out a 5k time which by McMillan would be porportionally better than all our previous race times.....hilarious really. At least you waited 6 weeks to attempt it...4 weeks after the marathon i was attempting sub 17....and it was 2k into the race before I copped myself on :D I'll be happy with 17:45 tomorrow (17:44)

    Was reading up on 5k training over the weekend and was interested in Frank Horwills approach which was that interval training specifically for 5k should have short recovery's because you get no recovery during the race. He recommends running the reps 800m-2000m in length, at 5k race pace or just under it (but not 3k pace) with a recovery jog of 1/8th the distance....that would be max recovery of 40-45sec after your 1k reps. He mentions that interval sessions specific for 5k race are usually run too fast and with too long recovery i.e 12x400 @ 3k pace with 400m jog recovery is wrong according to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Gringo78 wrote: »
    Well done on the 5k....I know you're a bit put out by being so much off pace but I think a 5k needs a few attempts. I'm running one again tomorrow evening so I'll see if I've improved from 2 weeks ago.

    Hate to point out the bleeding obvious but I think we're gas....we run a marathon, feel really comfortable and strong doing it cos we've endurance dripping out of us after having followed a program which avoided any type of VO2 or even anaerobic work. We then expect less than 6 weeks later to be sprint kings churning out a 5k time which by McMillan would be porportionally better than all our previous race times.....hilarious really. At least you waited 6 weeks to attempt it...4 weeks after the marathon i was attempting sub 17....and it was 2k into the race before I copped myself on :D I'll be happy with 17:45 tomorrow (17:44)

    Was reading up on 5k training over the weekend and was interested in Frank Horwills approach which was that interval training specifically for 5k should have short recovery's because you get no recovery during the race. He recommends running the reps 800m-2000m in length, at 5k race pace or just under it (but not 3k pace) with a recovery jog of 1/8th the distance....that would be max recovery of 40-45sec after your 1k reps. He mentions that interval sessions specific for 5k race are usually run too fast and with too long recovery i.e 12x400 @ 3k pace with 400m jog recovery is wrong according to him.

    It was my first proper 5k as last years was 4.6....but i do agree about the whole marathon thing and being unrealistic about shorter times so soon after....i just didnt have it for the last 2k...10:20 for the first 3 was good and i was feeling ok then,but crumbled during the two hills on the last 2k...pity, but understandable i suppose.
    I will break that 17 mins though but will probably have to wait until next year.

    Interesting about the interval work above,thats all new to me also.
    All my short distance times came from tempos...i never did a proper interval session until 3 weeks ago...so i am hoping that as my mileage will be curtailed with the new arrival later this year,the introduction of intervals ( and core work at home ) will see me improve on those times in the same races next Spring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    2 runs since Sundays race.
    I took Monday as a rest day.
    Tuesday i did 6m @ 7:06p and today i did 5m @ 7:05p
    A bit fast again for easy runs,i was running them at 7:30p during training for Cork, i want them around 7:15-7:20 now when i am not doing big mileage.

    Really dont know what to plan for now...i am really put off by the bad reports about the national half in carlow,it was a target race of mine.

    Other than that i am certainly doing the Ardmore 5 on Aug 13th and more than likely the Ballycotton 5 on Aug 26th ( i think )....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭Speedy44


    Sosa wrote: »
    2 runs since Sundays race.
    I took Monday as a rest day.
    Tuesday i did 6m @ 7:06p and today i did 5m @ 7:05p
    A bit fast again for easy runs,i was running them at 7:30p during training for Cork, i want them around 7:15-7:20 now when i am not doing big mileage.

    Really dont know what to plan for now...i am really put off by the bad reports about the national half in carlow,it was a target race of mine.

    Other than that i am certainly doing the Ardmore 5 on Aug 13th and more than likely the Ballycotton 5 on Aug 26th ( i think )....

    Galway City half the on Aug 29th should be pretty good, http://www.galwaycitymarathon.com/

    Don't confuse it with the Galway Bay Half that was on last year and got some pretty bad press.


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    Speedy44 wrote: »
    Galway City half the on Aug 29th should be pretty good, http://www.galwaycitymarathon.com/

    Don't confuse it with the Galway Bay Half that was on last year and got some pretty bad press.

    a bit far away for me Speedy,not that interested in staying over for a race...thanks anyway


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