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One step at a time

  • 02-11-2009 1:05pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭


    I didnt take me long to think up of the name of my new log.
    I think its fairly appropiate....

    Upon reflection of my DCM performance,i have decided to take it "one step at a time" for the next 12 months.

    Looking back,if i had of managed sub 3 last week,it would have been a minor miracle,3:14 has left a bad taste in the mouth tbh,but i have put that down to experience now,now i know what it takes to complete a marathon ( something that you need to actually do to understand it,as no amount of reading or talking prepares you for the final 6.2 ).

    But,looking back at my training,the only thing i would change is that i didnt race any 10m or halfs.
    My thinking of it was that i knew roughly what times i would do for those races and thought why bother wearing myself out on races that were not going to shock me with the results,i figured that i would save my energy for the training runs instead.
    I now know that racing those distances would have served as fantastic training,of which i could never replicate on my own.

    Over my 18 weeks training,i averaged 50m for the first 16 ( not including last 2 weeks of taper ),that coupled with the right races should be enough to get you sub 3 ( i think )

    So now then...whats next ?

    Well,
    I will be keeping this log going for 12 months,hopefully culminating in a sub 3 effort in DCM10.
    In the interim,there will be lots of short races,10 milers and a couple of halfs ( 1 in 6 weeks ).
    I am hopng to do Cork and Dublin next year...i am thinking seriously of aiming for 3:05 in Cork...then hopefully knocking those 5 mins off in DCM.
    None of this is confirmed,but DCM is certainly a target of mine ( i have to go back there and finish properly next time )
    If i cannot get to Cork or any other in the first 6 months of next year,i will just do Dublin.

    How do i hope to knock minutes off 3:14 ?

    Well...The plan is to knock a minute of my 5m & 10k,hopfully get my 10m down under 62 and get the half under 82 in prep for Dublin.
    If i can achieve those times and watch my pacing better,i am in with a better chance than this year.

    Just a couple of quotes i heard recently that i think anybody attempting their first marathon should really listen to :

    You don't always get what you think you deserve at a marathon.

    The Marathon is a game of two halves - The first 20m and the last 6.2


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    I will wait until next week to set up some sort of training program for the half.

    I went out for 4 slow (8:40p) miles on Saturday morning.Legs were very heavy but no side effects from Mondays effort.

    I also did 6m this morning at 7:55p...felt much better.
    I will only be doing 4/5/6m recovery runs this week.

    Next week,i will start picking it up a notch ( a small notch )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,411 ✭✭✭SUNGOD


    now that sounds like a plan.
    best of luck with it , most people wil run at least 2 or 3 marathons before they atempt sub 3 so by dubin 2010 with another 11 months of running and some PB,s in the races you mentioned you should be perfectly primed to reach your goal time.
    hopefully i will be reaching these goals with you


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Good luck with the new log.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    SUNGOD wrote: »
    now that sounds like a plan.
    best of luck with it , most people wil run at least 2 or 3 marathons before they atempt sub 3 so by dubin 2010 with another 11 months of running and some PB,s in the races you mentioned you should be perfectly primed to reach your goal time.
    hopefully i will be reaching these goals with you

    I am sure you will SG,only a matter of getting yourself right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭village runner


    Looking forward to enjoying your thread again.
    What are your goals for nxt year ? Maybe a marathon like Rotterdam in april should be on the cards ?? If anything it would get you a bit of confidence back.
    12 months is along time to wait to get back on the horse. I was surprised you didnt race the half in KK........Lesson learnt i suppose.
    Plenty of races early in the year. Maybe cork would be worth a shot ??
    After having one bad experience you need to get a positive one. Your times over 5 miles and 10km are def 3 hour material.
    I really thought you would be 2.58-3.02 in dublin. But asc we know we all have bad days...........But on hte plus side your first marathon and a bad one in your eyes in 3.14 aint bad.
    An easy month will do you no harm at all. Recharge the batteries and get the real hunger back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Looking forward to enjoying your thread again.
    What are your goals for nxt year ? Maybe a marathon like Rotterdam in april should be on the cards ?? If anything it would get you a bit of confidence back.
    12 months is along time to wait to get back on the horse. I was surprised you didnt race the half in KK........Lesson learnt i suppose.
    Plenty of races early in the year. Maybe cork would be worth a shot ??
    After having one bad experience you need to get a positive one. Your times over 5 miles and 10km are def 3 hour material.
    I really thought you would be 2.58-3.02 in dublin. But asc we know we all have bad days...........But on hte plus side your first marathon and a bad one in your eyes in 3.14 aint bad.
    An easy month will do you no harm at all. Recharge the batteries and get the real hunger back.

    Thanks VR,I hope to do 2 next year,we will see how things go.
    All going well,i will be back on that line in Dublin next year.(Cork being the other)
    I messed myself up last Monday,looking back over my splits,i was way to fast for the first 10m,very eratic and was killing myself without even knowing it.
    Training needs a few changes aswell,more 10m/half races and more MP runs

    My goals for next year are to improve my times in all distances.....

    Ah well thats not for now anyway,Doing very little this week and just build up slowly for the half down here in 6 weeks time.
    You coming down ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭another world


    Best of luck with the new log. The last one was great so I´ll be looking forward to reading this one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Hi Sosa I think your right to leave your sub 3 attempt till next DM. From my own experience I wish thats what I did instead of flogging a dead horse. best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    Good to see your back Sosa .
    New log, new goals, fresh start. Looking forward to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Jaysus a rift of new logs popping up after DCM! Agree with Abhainn, a new log means a fresh start and a clean vision of your new goals. A halfM or 10m races as B goals would be good pace indicators for you

    Best of luck!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    MCOS wrote: »
    Jaysus a rift of new logs popping up after DCM! Agree with Abhainn, a new log means a fresh start and a clean vision of your new goals. A halfM or 10m races as B goals would be good pace indicators for you

    Best of luck!

    Your reading my mind MCOS,thats the plan.
    I have a half in 6 weeks and a good 10 miler in Dungarvan at the end of January.

    They are my immediate goals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    6m @ 7:30 Pace

    Found this a struggle tbh,breathing ok,but the legs are still feeling heavy.
    Had to have a nap before dinner after it :eek:

    I will take a day off tomorrow and do another 5/6 on Thursday at a slower pace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Hi Sosa,
    As always, you make a lot of excellent points that are worthy of comment.
    Sosa wrote: »
    I didnt take me long to think up of the name of my new log.
    I think its fairly appropriate....
    Great name, and a great way to approach training, or running a marathon
    Sosa wrote: »
    Looking back,if i had of managed sub 3 last week,it would have been a minor miracle
    Looking at your training log I don't agree, I'm sure you're in much better shape than me
    Sosa wrote: »
    ,now i know what it takes to complete a marathon ( something that you need to actually do to understand it,as no amount of reading or talking prepares you for the final 6.2 ).
    +1 here
    Sosa wrote: »
    But,looking back at my training,the only thing i would change is that i didnt race any 10m or halfs.
    My thinking of it was that i knew roughly what times i would do for those races and thought why bother wearing myself out on races that were not going to shock me with the results,i figured that i would save my energy for the training runs instead.
    I now know that racing those distances would have served as fantastic training,of which i could never replicate on my own.

    I think the main benefit would be pacing in a race situation - though if you're looking to do a really hard session a race is a great way to achieve that.
    Sosa wrote: »
    Over my 18 weeks training,i averaged 50m for the first 16 ( not including last 2 weeks of taper ),that coupled with the right races should be enough to get you sub 3 ( i think )
    Yep
    Sosa wrote: »
    So now then...whats next ?


    How do i hope to knock minutes off 3:14 ?
    I think in reality you're much closer than 14 mins. A little bit too quick at the start = very slow at the end. I had a look back at my racing times for last year and I was only a little bit quicker this year, though in every case I finished in much better shape. This leads me to believe that my debacle last year was down to early pace.
    Sosa wrote: »

    Well...The plan is to knock a minute of my 5m & 10k,hopfully get my 10m down under 62 and get the half under 82 in prep for Dublin.
    If i can achieve those times and watch my pacing better,i am in with a better chance than this year.
    I wouldn't worry too much about the shorter ones, though they'll fit in nicely with most programs. I reckon your 10mile and half goals would easily see you doing a sub 3.
    Sosa wrote: »

    Just a couple of quotes i heard recently that i think anybody attempting their first marathon should really listen to :

    You don't always get what you think you deserve at a marathon.
    and boy do I know what that means....

    Looking forward to the new log, best of luck reaching all your goals!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    aero2k wrote: »
    I think in reality you're much closer than 14 mins. A little bit too quick at the start = very slow at the end.quote]

    I bit off more than i could chew with sub 3,but i think i could have gotten a 3:05 out of it,if i had paced for that (properly) from the start i don't think that i would have needed to walk at all,straight away thats 8 minutes.
    I clearly hit the wall at 20 as everything just shut down on me,lesson learned,that may not have happened (or if it did,it would have been much later) if i set out for a 3:05...but then again.....who trains for a 3:05 marathon ?

    Answer : Me

    If i do 2 marathons next year,the first will be a sub 3:05 attempt.
    then,hopefully Dublin for another crack at sub 3.
    The idea is to train for sub 3 for the 3:05 and train for a 2:50/55 for the sub 3 attempt.
    If i cant do 2,i will just wait for Dublin and scrap the 3:05 approach.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    That's the right approach I reckon, pretty much what I did for Rotterdam and Amsterdam. Even though I fell short in the end I still think it was the right way to go, I was pitching my PMP runs at 6:45 rather than 6:51 for example and so 4:15/kms felt good on teh day.

    I suppose my only question would be over teh choice of marathons - I get doing Dublin again to slay the dragon (again something I did in my 2nd year of running) but I'm not sure Cork is ideal for a fast race. It's pretty hilly and has been hot for the last couple of years. Not reasons not to do it but if confidence is fragile another result that's not in line with training could be tough to cope with and I'm pretty sure that Cork is a good bit slower than Dublin. Are you set on teh idea or would you look at alternatives? Longford is quite close to Dublin time wise but is very flat and traffic free.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭wizwill


    On choice of marathon, what about edinburugh. Its a fast course, flights are cheap at the moment (in on the sat out on the sunday), there is support on the course (unlike longford). The date in may will give you sufficient time to enjoy some of the shorter distance races, ballycotton, national 10k etc etc, worth thinking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭Dukie


    Looking forward to the new log Sosa. Best of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    That's the right approach I reckon, pretty much what I did for Rotterdam and Amsterdam. Even though I fell short in the end I still think it was the right way to go, I was pitching my PMP runs at 6:45 rather than 6:51 for example and so 4:15/kms felt good on teh day.

    I suppose my only question would be over teh choice of marathons - I get doing Dublin again to slay the dragon (again something I did in my 2nd year of running) but I'm not sure Cork is ideal for a fast race. It's pretty hilly and has been hot for the last couple of years. Not reasons not to do it but if confidence is fragile another result that's not in line with training could be tough to cope with and I'm pretty sure that Cork is a good bit slower than Dublin. Are you set on teh idea or would you look at alternatives? Longford is quite close to Dublin time wise but is very flat and traffic free.
    wizwill wrote: »
    On choice of marathon, what about edinburugh. Its a fast course, flights are cheap at the moment (in on the sat out on the sunday), there is support on the course (unlike longford). The date in may will give you sufficient time to enjoy some of the shorter distance races, ballycotton, national 10k etc etc, worth thinking about.

    Yeah,i have been told that recently alright.
    I am far from set on those two,open to suggestions.
    I would like to do Edinburgh in May,i must look into that later.

    Can you fly to Edinburgh from Cork ?
    although the new road will be open in May,that will get us to Dublin Airport ( from waterford )( in 1:40...i'm told...is this right ? )

    But before i get carried away with plans for two marathons,i will have to check in with the OH...realistically i would not want to leave it to long as Edinburgh will be sold out.
    I will leave it a week or 2,if i mention the word "marathon" anytime soon,she might just burn all my gear :D

    Not interested in Longford...i like the crowds.
    Dukie wrote: »
    Looking forward to the new log Sosa. Best of luck

    Thanks Duke...when are you starting yours ?
    Don't be shy !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭Dukie


    Maybe I might, you never know...
    I could call it "Bambi's little feck legs" :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭village runner


    Sosa wrote: »
    Thanks VR,I hope to do 2 next year,we will see how things go.
    All going well,i will be back on that line in Dublin next year.(Cork being the other)
    I messed myself up last Monday,looking back over my splits,i was way to fast for the first 10m,very eratic and was killing myself without even knowing it.
    I am away that weekend. ~Typical. Take an easy 2-3 weeks and jog around the half in 90 min. I always try to take a few weeks off after a hard cycle of training.
    Dont worry bout your marathon time. You know your a 3.05 man at worst.
    What did you go through 10 m iles in ?

    Plenty of races early in new year to get you sharp.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    I am away that weekend. ~Typical. Take an easy 2-3 weeks and jog around the half in 90 min. I always try to take a few weeks off after a hard cycle of training.
    Dont worry bout your marathon time. You know your a 3.05 man at worst.
    What did you go through 10 m iles in ?

    Plenty of races early in new year to get you sharp.

    http://connect.garmin.com/splits/17805597

    Splits all over the place...realised after a while i better slow down..it was to late...damage done.

    I have loads of races in the new year to keep me occupied.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Sosa wrote: »
    Can you fly to Edinburgh from Cork ?
    although the new road will be open in May,that will get us to Dublin Airport ( from waterford )( in 1:40...i'm told...is this right ? )
    You can fly to Barcelona from Cork (return), for the princely sum of €89.33.
    What a great way to celebrate the birthday. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Sosa wrote: »
    Interesting reading. Looks something like my first marathon last year, only 10 minutes faster. You were really flying until mile 15. Miles 3-9 look way too fast for a sub-3 (closer to 2:54 pace). Mile 24 = Soul destroying (I've been there!). With even pacing you'll comfortably get under the three hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭village runner


    Sosa wrote: »
    http://connect.garmin.com/splits/17805597

    Splits all over the place...realised after a while i better slow down..it was to late...damage done.

    I have loads of races in the new year to keep me occupied.


    Up to 9 is prob ok but 9-13 is a gradual climb. I lost time pacing the marathon there because i knew from 07 that it was tough and it hurt me.

    A ny fixtures for the new year ?

    We might get in a long run in hte new year before the Dungarvan 10. Mrs wants to go on a holiday that week. Sad but i would rather run the 10 miler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    You were really flying until mile 15. Miles 3-9 look way too fast for a sub-3 (closer to 2:54 pace). Mile 24 = Soul destroying (I've been there!).

    I was,and i knew i was going to fast,even though from 16 on i started slipping,i did that purposely as i thought that if i did a few slower miles that i would be ok.
    I started getting dizzy at the tail end of the 19th mile,had to stop...and then the wings got clipped !

    Miles 3-9 was just naivety,it wont happen next time as i now know what happens when you go out to fast

    as Aero2k said to me
    To fast at the start = Very slow at the end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    5m @ 7:21p

    Delighted with this as i have been really tired since Tuesdays run @ 7:30 pace and i was thinking that it was going to be a while before i run anyway decent again.
    I set out to do 8 min miles but found myself getting going after mile 1 so i clipped along nicely.
    Not going to get carried away though,i will do another 4/5 tomorrow but i will hold it to 8:00 pace.

    I have been thinking about this half marathon and i am not sure if i will be up to a full on race.
    Its still 5 weeks away,i could be chomping at the bit by then...
    Who knows ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭Gringo78


    Best of luck with the new log. Interesting to see the splits from the marathon...at least its clear what went wrong....10sec/mile too fast may seem like not a lot but its the difference between your 5km race pace and your 5 mile race pace...think how far you'd get in a 5 mile race if you ran half it at your 5km race pace....

    You've definetly got sub 3 and faster ability...I'm not going to say you'll run it comfortably or easily in your next marathon but I'm sure you will achieve it alright in your next, but now that you have experienced the last 6.2 miles of a marathon you know how tough it is and it will never come easy....when you hit 20 miles you've still got 42min of the toughest running mentally and physically to go you know it'll be brutal no matter how well prepared you are (if its not.....you've set the bar too low :)). Reading a couple of race reports from DCM of people who acheived their target and excelled.....none of it was easy on the day, they had to dig real deep.

    Anyways, hope to see you at the Waterford HM and a couple of the 10mile races.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Gringo78 wrote: »
    Best of luck with the new log. Interesting to see the splits from the marathon...at least its clear what went wrong....10sec/mile too fast may seem like not a lot but its the difference between your 5km race pace and your 5 mile race pace...think how far you'd get in a 5 mile race if you ran half it at your 5km race pace....

    Yeah,i'm going mad that i did that.
    Its not as if i thought i could keep up that pace all the way round or got cocky or anything,i just got caught up in the whole event and thought that i would just tail off a bit and everything would be ok,even though i know it does not work that way...again...my mind was not thinking straight,i was enjoyinng myself to much

    You've definetly got sub 3 and faster ability...I'm not going to say you'll run it comfortably or easily in your next marathon but I'm sure you will achieve it alright in your next, but now that you have experienced the last 6.2 miles of a marathon you know how tough it is and it will never come easy....when you hit 20 miles you've still got 42min of the toughest running mentally and physically to go you know it'll be brutal no matter how well prepared you are (if its not.....you've set the bar too low :)). Reading a couple of race reports from DCM of people who acheived their target and excelled.....none of it was easy on the day, they had to dig real deep.

    Big dissapointment that i put in that muh effort into the training only to fcuk it up on the day by not concentrating.
    Whatever about sub 3,3:05 was there for the taking but i will just have to wait for my next one.

    Anyways, hope to see you at the Waterford HM and a couple of the 10mile races.

    Yeah,i will be doing the half alright,dont know yet what kind of time i will be capable of in 5 weeks,hoping to have a right go,but i wont be rushing back to any sort of speed work for at least another 10 days.
    -


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭asimonov


    Good luck with the new log sosa - i have to laugh, at one stage during the summer i thought we were both safe bets for the sub3...how wrong was I :) We both managed to screw it up..next year wha' - older and wiser.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    5.2m @ 8:28 Pace

    My first run with Sungod in about 10 weeks,hopefully he has seen the end of his injuries now and get back running the way he was early in the year.

    The run itself was nice and handy,as we both wanted...nice jacuzzi and sauna afterwards...lovely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    8m @ 7:12 Pace

    Lovely crisp morning for a run,my longest since DCM and it felt good.
    For the first 4m i was thinking that i had lost some fitness over the last 2 weeks,but that thought was put to bed as i managed to do the last 4 faster than the first 4 and more comfortable.

    The plan next week is another 5 runs totalling around 35m...mixture of aerobic and recovery and then have 3 good weeks running before a semi taper the week of the half.

    Still dont know if i will be able for 3 weeks of HMP runs,tempos,long,Vo2's.
    I will know soon enough and might just decide to jog around the half instead of killing myself.

    I have the Dungarvan 10 at the end of Jan/start of Feb...so i can always concentrate on that if the half comes to soon for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭village runner


    Sosa wrote: »
    8m @ 7:12 Pace

    Lovely crisp morning for a run,my longest since DCM and it felt good.
    For the first 4m i was thinking that i had lost some fitness over the last 2 weeks,but that thought was put to bed as i managed to do the last 4 faster than the first 4 and more comfortable.

    The plan next week is another 5 runs totalling around 35m...mixture of aerobic and recovery and then have 3 good weeks running before a semi taper the week of the half.

    Still dont know if i will be able for 3 weeks of HMP runs,tempos,long,Vo2's.
    I will know soon enough and might just decide to jog around the half instead of killing myself.

    I have the Dungarvan 10 at the end of Jan/start of Feb...so i can always concentrate on that if the half comes to soon for me.

    Its exactly what i would do. Also the 10 miler in mallow 4 weeks after waterford. Maybe do the first 7 at 6.50 and pick it up after that ??

    You nned a confidence boooster...........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Its exactly what i would do

    What is ?

    Jog around or the my prep for it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭village runner


    Sosa wrote: »
    What is ?

    Jog around or the my prep for it


    I would take at least 4 weeks to recover from a marathon. Hence i wouldnt run a great time in a half marathon 6 weeks later.
    With an extra 4 weeks mallow might be a better option.
    Rather than risk a bad run i would run 88 min. Get a bit of confisence back and kick on from there. This is all what i would do but your recovery might be different.
    Half marathons are probaly a tougher race than a marathon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    I would take at least 4 weeks to recover from a marathon. Hence i wouldnt run a great time in a half marathon 6 weeks later.
    With an extra 4 weeks mallow might be a better option.
    Rather than risk a bad run i would run 88 min. Get a bit of confisence back and kick on from there. This is all what i would do but your recovery might be different.
    Half marathons are probaly a tougher race than a marathon.

    I thought that was what you meant,i just was not sure.

    I will let my body do the talking when i start off the harder stuff Monday week.
    If i find it to hard,i wont push it.
    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    6m @ 8:04p

    Another crisp morning,another run on the road to full recovery.
    Ran with SG again and we did not feel the time going by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    8m @ 6:52p

    Its amazing how that pace keeps poppping up !

    Set out to do 10 at 7:30 pace,but felt tired during the first mile so i cut it to 8 and then made it my fastest 8 since Dublin ( just seemed to happen )

    All going in the right direction


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭village runner


    Sosa wrote: »
    8m @ 6:52p

    Its amazing how that pace keeps poppping up !

    Set out to do 10 at 7:30 pace,but felt tired during the first mile so i cut it to 8 and then made it my fastest 8 since Dublin ( just seemed to happen )

    All going in the right direction


    Thats a great confidence booster.................
    Get it up to 15 or 16 over time and it will feel easy. You will then hit 20 and be tired but the bla in you will keep going ot the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    6m @ 7:26p

    Planned rest day today but went out anyway,yesterdays run got the juices flowing.

    Definite rest day tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    5m Tempo

    Morning all over the place,so could only fit in a 5 miler,and thought to myself,i may as well make it a good one.

    Mile 1 - 7:16
    Mile 2 - 6:17
    Mile 3 - 6:14
    Mile 4 - 6:07
    Mile 5 - 6:05

    Really struggled in the first mile and thought,oh sweet jesus,its been a while since i did a tempo,forgot how tough they were,but by mile 3 ( although puffing ) i was comfortable and could have squeezed out another if i had to.

    Best session in about 4 weeks...:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Nice run! Always satisfying when a run starts awfully, you decide to just get on with it and end up have a great run feeling great! Well done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    MCOS wrote: »
    Nice run! Always satisfying when a run starts awfully, you decide to just get on with it and end up have a great run feeling great! Well done

    When i said as struggling at mile 1,i meant mile 1 of the tempo (which was mile 2 really ),but yeah,have to agree,during that first tempo mile i did not think i would get 4 of them done...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Jaysus Sosa,

    You're an inspiration - the only time I've managed miles that quick (6:05) was in a race! Most of my runs the last couple of weeks have been 8-9min/mile. Planning to crank it up a notch next Tuesday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    12m @ 7:48 Pace

    Longest run since Dublin and it felt grand,even after yesterdays tempo.
    I did 4 on my own first,met Sungod for 6 and another 2 back up to my house broke up the run nicely.

    SG,the 6 we did together were @ 7:42,7:54,8:00,7:58,7:47 and 7:49


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Weeks to Go
    16-11-09|13.1|7:31|Aerobic|Sunny and warm !|4
    17-11-09|||||4
    18-11-09|||||4
    19-11-09|||||4
    20-11-09|||||4
    21-11-09|||||4
    22-11-09|||||4


    I decided to bring back the tables to help me get through the next 4 weeks in prep for the half.

    I ran the course today and set out to do the last 4 at PHMP ( well,do ye like that ),but bit off more than i could chew this morning.
    After Fridays tempo,saturdays 12 ( although slow,longest since DCM ) and more importantly the debauchery ( is that a word ? ) i put myself through Saturday night watching the match,its a wonder i was out today at all.

    Got to 9m and decided to give it a go anyway,only did mile 10 and 11 at that pace and back to 7:30's after that...i could have beaten out another mile but thats not the point.
    Happy to get it done....

    The next three weeks will be filled with tempos and intervals along with a couple of med long runs,then i will have a semi taper for the week leading up to the half.
    No idea what kind of time i am capable of,the next three weeks will tell alot.

    Med 12-16|Aerobic|Recovery|Tempo|Vo2|Total
    1|||||1|


    Wk 1|Wk 2|Wk 3|Wk 4
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Weeks to Go
    16-11-09|13.1|7:31|Med Long|Sunny and warm !|4
    17-11-09|6|6:57|Aerobic|Mild|4
    18-11-09|||||4
    19-11-09|||||4
    20-11-09|||||4
    21-11-09|||||4
    22-11-09|||||4


    A run that i found hard to categorise,a bit fast for aerobic and to slow for tempo,should really have done one or the other.
    This would have been a good workout for the marathon,but not for the half.
    First mile was 7:45...all others were sub 6:50,the last two were all uphill so they were tough.
    Enjoyable all the same,but i definitely have lost fitness since Dublin,yesterday and today were bread and butter runs for me 4/5 weeks ago,but i found them hard going.


    Med 12-16|Aerobic|Tempo|Vo2|Recovery|Total
    1|1||||2|


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭village runner


    Only 3 weeks since dublin so give yourself a chance. 2 more weeks will see you fresh and well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    2 more weeks will see you fresh and well.

    hope so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Weeks to Go
    16-11-09|13.1|7:31|Med Long|Sunny and warm !|4
    17-11-09|6|6:57|Aerobic|Mild|4
    18-11-09|8|7:24|Aerobic|Dirty and drizzly but mild|4
    19-11-09|Rest||||4
    20-11-09|||||4
    21-11-09|||||4
    22-11-09|||||4


    I was tired today but dragged myself out for 8.
    Into a serious headwind for the first 2,then the next 4 was a nice stretch before heading into the wind again for the last 2.

    COME ON IRELAND !


    Med 12-16|Aerobic|Tempo|Vo2|Recovery|Total
    1|2||||3|


    Wk 1|Wk 2|Wk 3|Wk 4
    ||||


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    Date|Miles|Ave pace|Type|Weather|Weeks to Go
    16-11-09|13.1|7:31|Med Long|Sunny and warm !|4
    17-11-09|6|6:57|Aerobic|Mild|4
    18-11-09|8|7:24|Aerobic|Dirty and drizzly but mild|4
    19-11-09|4|8:13|Recovery|Miserable|4
    20-11-09|||||4
    21-11-09|||||4
    22-11-09|||||4


    Planned rest day today but decided to go out for a slow 4.
    Weather was atrocious,i saw a few funny things including wheelie bins being blown up hill !
    Also,when i was running around a few corners the wind was whipping the rain of the signs of the buildings and twice i got whacked right in the eyeball by drops of rain,je$us they hurt,like stones...


    Med 12-16|Aerobic|Tempo|Vo2|Recovery|Total
    1|2|||1|4|


    Wk 1|Wk 2|Wk 3|Wk 4
    ||||


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