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Do you think the sexes are actually equal?

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  • #32
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    biko wrote: »
    * Equal parental rights
    That should be brought in under the rights of the child to have access to both it's parents.


  • #33
    Deus Ex Machina
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Question doesn't really make sense??

    They can be equal in the eyes of the law but male and females of every species are fairly specialised. The female body needs to be able to produce offspring which means they can be physically very different from males. Males just needs to show off physical prowess and have little use other than providing good DNA in a lot of species.

    How can you not see the sense? It is quite simple, do you think that the collection of attributes of either either gender surpasses that of the other? Your response doesn't answer the question in any way.


  • #34
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Deus Ex Machina wrote: »
    How can you not see the sense? It is quite simple, do you think that the collection of attributes of either either gender surpasses that of the other? Your response doesn't answer the question in any way.
    Depends on the situation and what your trying to achieve, it's like asking is a tractor equal to sports car.


  • #35
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    no, definitely not equal

    I probably have a pretty different perspective on sexism to most here, but this is something for you to think about. if a woman wears masculine clothing there's nothing said, it's presumed completely normal. if a man wears feminine clothing, not only is there an enourmous social stigma but it's also considered a clinically diagnosable paraphilia! so it's supposedly perfectly normal for a woman to immitate men but if a man immitates a woman he has a mental disorder? think about that for a while


  • #36
    easyeason3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,102 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Links234 wrote: »
    no, definitely not equal

    I probably have a pretty different perspective on sexism to most here, but this is something for you to think about. if a woman wears masculine clothing there's nothing said, it's presumed completely normal. if a man wears feminine clothing, not only is there an enourmous social stigma but it's also considered a clinically diagnosable paraphilia! so it's supposedly perfectly normal for a woman to immitate men but if a man immitates a woman he has a mental disorder? think about that for a while

    She's usually considered a butch lesbo or has 'let herself go'.

    And unless a man is wearing a skirt & high heels then he is considered a metro sexual for wearing 'girly' colours. If he is wearing a skirt & high heels then he's a cross dresser.

    And no men & women are not equal at all & never will be.


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  • #37
    Sea Sharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    Nope, they're not the same. Apples and oranges. That said, neither is superior.


  • #38
    areu4real?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭areu4real?


    Definite no.
    Anyone hear the RSA ad playing on the radio at the moment?
    I know it's based on statistics but the slogan is "He drives, she dies"
    We like to convince ourselves all's equal, but it ain't and won't be.
    Just like racism, ageism, heightism or any other "ism", it only becomes insulting or degrading when someone takes it that way.
    If I said "Women can't drive" (it's lies, really) there'd be murder.
    A national ad saying that would never get through to air. I don't really care either way, we are what we are, but there is a differnce in a lot of ways. Thats millions of years of evolution for ya!


  • #39
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    Women get a better deal than men. The sexism that existed back in the day has been well and truly reversed.

    Nope

    Society still regards certain forms of discrimination against women as acceptable while turning a blind eye to/actively facilitating other forms of discrimination against men

    Both are wrong.


  • #40
    NothingMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    My gf can out belch me... :(


  • #41
    twinytwo
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    alexa5x5 wrote: »
    No, and we never will be. Asking are the sexes equal is like asking are two women equal, or are two men equal? Every one has different life, educational and physical skills.
    Its is unfair when a man and woman do the same job where both have the same work experience and education background. Yet the man is paid more. But at the same time women have it better in other ways too like we have lower car insurance, were more trusted certain jobs.
    So no where not equal but I think both sexes have been dealt good hands.

    strange that.. 95% of women cant drive.. compaired to about 50% of men


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  • #42
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    alexa5x5 wrote: »
    Its is unfair when a man and woman do the same job where both have the same work experience and education background. Yet the man is paid more.
    You living in the 50's? This is not the case any more!


  • #43
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    As true today as the day it was first broadcast.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w


  • #44
    Indubitable
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    Women have it all. Men need more rights.


  • #45
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    areu4real? wrote: »
    Definite no.
    Anyone hear the RSA ad playing on the radio at the moment?
    I know it's based on statistics but the slogan is "He drives, she dies"
    We like to convince ourselves all's equal, but it ain't and won't be.
    Just like racism, ageism, heightism or any other "ism", it only becomes insulting or degrading when someone takes it that way.
    If I said "Women can't drive" (it's lies, really) there'd be murder.
    A national ad saying that would never get through to air. I don't really care either way, we are what we are, but there is a differnce in a lot of ways. Thats millions of years of evolution for ya!

    To be fair I've never seen groups of girls driving like fcuk wits in their souped up novas or piles of sh1te twin cams with No Fear stickers.


  • #46
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    NothingMan wrote: »
    My gf can out belch me... :(
    grow a dick man


  • #47
    Banjo Fella
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭Banjo Fella


    Men and women are equally human. :p

    </captainobvioustotherescue>


  • #48
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    fontanalis wrote: »
    To be fair I've never seen groups of girls driving like fcuk wits in their souped up novas or piles of sh1te twin cams with No Fear stickers.
    Ever see them applying makeup or texting while driving?


  • #49
    NothingMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    grow a dick man


    You haven't heard her. She's knock you out of your seat with 1 god awful burp. Unfortunately she's a lady so won't show off her skills, also she's not inclined to answer in belch form like I am.


  • #50
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    NothingMan wrote: »
    You haven't heard her. She's knock you out of your seat with 1 god awful burp. Unfortunately she's a lady so won't show off her skills, also she's not inclined to answer in belch form like I am.
    i wanna see :(


  • #51
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    steve06 wrote: »
    Ever see them applying makeup or texting while driving?

    Good point, but the No Fear sticker bunch are far worse.


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  • #52
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    fontanalis wrote: »
    Good point, but the No Fear sticker bunch are far worse.
    the no fear kind just haven't seen my penis :cool:


  • #53
    alexa5x5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 521 ✭✭✭alexa5x5


    twinytwo wrote: »
    strange that.. 95% of women cant drive.. compaired to about 50% of men

    ha ha, did you pull that statistic out your ar$e


  • #54
    tangerinepuppet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭tangerinepuppet


    Deus Ex Machina wrote: »
    I am not asking if you think they should be treated equally, I am asking if you think that if you think, in general, are men and women equal? I say in general because it is clear that there are members of either gender which are clearly better or worse than average when certain attributes are compared. It happens to be my opinion that, from my perspective, I think men have the advantage given their (again I stress, everything in general) superior physical capabilities, and I think they are more fun. I am not a misogynist, I get along fine with plenty of the female gender, I just happen to this that their* isn't equality between the sexes no matter how much people want to spin it that way.

    *I just happen to THINK that THERE

    Of course men and women have different strengths and attributes. Yes, men in general have greater physical strength. Women tend to have much better spelling and grammar, which helps them to make a better first impression when communicating through the written word. This may make us less fun, but I'm cool with that. :)


  • #55
    Cinful
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭Cinful


    Male + Female = Fun!


  • #56
    phill106
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    They are Equal. Just men are more equal then women.


  • #57
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Cinful wrote: »
    Male + Female = Fun!
    Male + Female + Female = more fun!


  • #58
    Cinful
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭Cinful


    steve06 wrote: »
    Male + Female + Female = more fun!

    Steve's obviously male! Subtract one female; add one male = threesome!


  • #59
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Cinful wrote: »
    Steve's obviously male! Subtract one female; add one male = threesome!
    Male + Female + video camera and big screen tv = more fun!

    Can we agree on that then?


  • #60
    Manuel Curved Scatterbrain
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Manuel Curved Scatterbrain


    steve06 wrote: »
    Male + Female + video camera and big screen tv = more fun!

    Can we agree on that then?

    You want to record yourselves watching tv?


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  • #61
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    bluewolf wrote: »
    You want to record yourselves watching tv?
    yep, it'd make an epic art house short film! I hope she can hold the camera steady though.


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