Landis admits doping, points finger at LA - Please read Mod Warning post 1

two scots having a good rant on the matter:

http://www.velocast.co.uk/podcasts/episode-78-castrated-shiv

Bluefoam wrote: »

I don't get it

Try changing your aftershave.

Junior wrote: »

Which bit don't you get ?

Followed the link on my phone & wasn't shown any podcast, just a random comment on castration...

dont forget all the oher sports horizon26 i dont honestly beleive any professional highly paid sport is clean (some maybe cleaner than others )
i've watched cycling since i was about 12 and i aont gonna stop now - and the forums would be a lot quieter.

Tee hee hee

NickDrake wrote: »

Bruyneel a non doper? Nearly died on a stage when suffered a blood clot from EPO.

Eh... this is tongue and cheek as to how Lance views the world.

Don't you see the 'Yappin' and 'Keepin Quiet' scale down the right side?

EDIT: Don't think Bruyneel is 'Convicted or Admitted' is he?

Just finished reading From Lance to Landis, by David Walsh- would definitely recommend.

An excellent read, goes right through American cycling from when Lance was in the junior teams, up to when Landis was stripped of his TdF win.

SACH Central wrote: »

The net tightens further lancey boy

More good news for lance 'fans' here:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/4703/WADA-optimistic-Armstrong-investigation-will-be-fruitful-two-implicated-speak-up.aspx

Can't wait to see who's going to dish the dirt and how the l.a 'machine' try to discredit them & their evidence.

At the end of the day, it's he said, she said, unless someone can produce categorical evidence to back up claims, this will all stay as mud and never reach a successful conclusion.

Junior wrote: »

At the end of the day, it's he said, she said, unless someone can produce categorical evidence to back up claims, this will all stay as mud and never reach a successful conclusion.

Success for the prosecutor would be convictions. And he doesn't need 'categorical' evidence. He's going after confessions, something he has a very strong reputation for extracting.

Bluefoam wrote: »

On the contrary. The Americans seem only too willing to convict people based on heresay.

Not in fraud cases.

Junior wrote: »

At the end of the day, it's he said, she said, unless someone can produce categorical evidence to back up claims, this will all stay as mud and never reach a successful conclusion.

In this technological age I would be amazed if there isn't some documentary evidence out there.
If I was involved with LA and his alleged doping I know I would be recording anything possible for the day when he decides to hang me out to dry.
I believe somebody has the smoking gun and the feds will find it whereas anti-doping agencies couldn't because of lack of teeth.

Will be interesting to see how much coverage this gets in the media. Most of the allegations wouldn't surprised people who follow the subject, but I never heard the Trek angle before

Jesus, this is some interesting stuff. I knew next to nothing about Landis before all this, pretty tragic character.

I reckon if he sells the movie rights he might make back all that money he lost. Might have to make it "inspired by true events" and have the antagonist go by the name of Vance Gunderson, 7 time world cycling cup winner.

I hope he gets his life back together after all this anyway, I know he cheated and made it worse by denying it, but seeing a guy publicly destroyed by his sport is pretty sad. Do you think if he had never gone to US Postal he might have had a pretty decent (and clean) career? Twisted by the dark side of the (SRAM) force?