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From todays Cycling Weekly 'The Wednesday Comment'

The story just keeps getting better & better (for us non-believers)

Full Article: http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/470777/the-wednesday-comment.html

'[Yesterday, CW received a call from Bob Hamman, the president of SCA Promotions, a sports promotions company that based in Dallas, Texas. In layman's terms, Tailwind Sports took out a series of insurance policies that would guarantee hefty pay-outs for each of Armstrong's Tour de France wins. By the time of his sixth win, in 2004, the payment due was $10m. However, after the publication of the book LA Confidentiel by David Walsh and Pierre Ballester, which contained allegations of doping against d and, eventually, SCA decided to settle out of court and paid up.

During the hearing, Armstrong gave a deposition - an out-of-court interview under oath to be used as his testimony at the hearing. During that deposition the matter of a payment made to the UCI came up. Not surprisingly, SCA's lawyers wanted to know what the payment was for and why it had been made, because a payment from an active athlete to his sport's governing body could be viewed as a conflict of interest. In that deposition Armstrong said the payment was around $25,000, certainly not more than about $30,000. Armstrong's attorney, Bill Stapleton, said in his deposition that Armstrong had made "one or two" payments over the years. CW has seen the text of both deposition statements.

Now that Pat McQuaid has confirmed that Armstrong paid $100,000 SCA Promotions is considering its options'

kerryscoob

Beasty wrote: »

Link here

Eurosport today mentioned this article and also how LAs ex wife may back Landis's claims.

JacksonHeightsOwn

kerryscoob wrote: »

Eurosport today mentioned this article and also how LAs ex wife may back Landis's claims.

really?

his ex missus is gonna spill the beans?

ROK ON

chrisbonnie wrote: »

really?

his ex missus is gonna spill the beans?

A woman scorned. Don't go there. If I cheated on my missus, its not her fessing up to the feds that would worry me.

papac

also how LAs ex wife may back Landis's claims.

It just gets juicier and juicier. Link??

sy

ROK ON wrote: »

A woman scorned. Don't go there. If I cheated on my missus, its not her fessing up to the feds that would worry me.

+1 on that ROK ON !
Need more than testosterone patches

Lumen

kerryscoob wrote: »

Eurosport today mentioned this article and also how LAs ex wife may back Landis's claims.

She may, or she may not. If it comes down to lying to a federal investigator for him after he cheated on her, I think it's game over.

Of course, she'll then be written off as a bitter ex-wife with a grudge to bring down America's Greatest Unitesticular Sporting Hero.

ajk24

papac wrote: »

It just gets juicier and juicier. Link??

about half way down the page

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/michael_mccann/05/25/lance.armstrong/index.html

irishmotorist

It's great - nearly anybody who has anything negative to say about LA can be described as a 'bitter, ex-<insert role here>'

The role can be any of...
Wife
Teammate
Masseuse
Rival
Friend

horizon26

kerryscoob wrote: »

Eurosport today mentioned this article and also how LAs ex wife may back Landis's claims.

I have already wrote its hearsay and no proof.If and its a big If Armstrong's former wife backs Landis,Its game over for him.I just want the truth to come out.There is no way LA can justify that his ex is just bitter.

If his ex backs Landis LA is completely finished,his name will be dirt and he will lose lots of money and possible jail time.

kerryscoob

It would be a pity if proven but I won't dance on his grave yet.

Very hard on young pros staying clean when you have the old dogs taking everything possible,winning all the major tours, getting all the big contracts, the acclaim and blantantly taking the *iss and getting away with it, the "if you can't beat them join them" could spring to mind.

drogdub

According to Eurosport Matthew White Director of Garmin-Transions is being invesitigated. This could be a big blow to the perception that some of the teams are trying to clean it up, if he is found to be involved in doping

Slideshowbob

drogdub wrote: »

According to Eurosport Matthew White Director of Garmin-Transions is being invesitigated. This could be a big blow to the perception that some of the teams are trying to clean it up, if he is found to be involved in doping

Ah ya!

Garmin

Their Doc upto last year was Allen Lim (Cited by FL, now with LA)

Their rider / part owner Millar is an ex doper

Wiggins has shown amazing improvements for his performance in last year's Tour

Slideshowbob

hmmmm

Posters on cyclingnews forum getting very close to the bone about UCI President!! :

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=7674

kenmc

kerryscoob wrote: »

It would be a pity if proven

Why?

I for one welcome the downfall of any cheats. And yes I believe LA is one.

Lumen

OK folks.

This might well be an unpopular decision, but I'm going to close this thread and related ones, at least temporarily, to protect boards.ie from possible legal issues arising in the next few days.

It looks like things are about to get quite interesting in the wider story, and whilst I love watching a demolition derby as much as the next person, and discussing it here, I'd rather not be directly involved in the wreckage.

Lumen

Intermission over.

Expert: Floyd Landis could be protected, and rewarded, by whistleblower law

Report: Federal investigators consider fraud and conspiracy charges related to Landis’ claims against Lance Armstrong

edit: please try and keep discussion to the available facts, linking to sources if possible, out of respect for the modest legal resources of boards.ie

Zascar

Phew this is back open, i rely on it for knowing whats going on.

What did i miss?

furiousox

Zascar wrote: »

Phew this is back open, i rely on it for knowing whats going on.

What did i miss?

Well first there was a loud noise, then the earth cooled, then along came the dinosaurs but they got too fat and died......long story :pac:

kerryscoob

kenmc wrote: »

Why?

I for one welcome the downfall of any cheats. And yes I believe LA is one.

You are entitled to your opinion that he's a cheat but to date it hasn't been proven ,but there is a lot of people out there who admire him for the way he battled through his treatment,his charity work and finally his cycling exploits.The "pity" is that he would have made a fool of all these people who backed him,kids who idolised him etc.

I won't pity him if found guilty and like yourself welcome the downfall of cheats.

ednwireland

furiousox wrote: »

Well first there was a loud noise, then the earth cooled, then along came the dinosaurs but they got too fat and died......long story :pac:

i think you mean this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItIdeKg5kt4&feature=related

petethedrummer

kerryscoob wrote: »

You are entitled to your opinion that he's a cheat but to date it hasn't been proven ,

Only a couple more weeks to go.

Junior

You've missed a statement from Garmin on the issues

McQuack and Fr. Millar trot out more bull**** and note the dirty dig from Millar getting it on record that Landis is an alco.

IM0

Lumen wrote: »

OK folks.

This might well be an unpopular decision, but I'm going to close this thread and related ones, at least temporarily, to protect boards.ie from possible legal issues arising in the next few days.

how does that work exactly? are they not aware of the fundamental rule of forums that whatever a poster says is their OPINION regardless of 'fact' which may say otherwise or the desire of any who reads the posts to believe otherwise. Or was it a way for you/them to put it to bed untill something comes of it..if so thanks this might end up dragging on for years yet, the man has a lot of $ to defend his case with [$100m :eek:]

IM0

petethedrummer wrote: »

Only a couple more years to go.

FYP :pac:

sy

Junior wrote: »

McQuack and Fr. Millar trot out more bull**** and note the dirty dig from Millar getting it on record that Landis is an alco.

Millar

"If he had stood up and manned up four years ago, he'd be racing the Tour de France now," Millar said. "He'd have a different book out. He'd have not lost a penny. He'd be admired by young people. He would have a different life ahead of him. He'd be in a decent mental state. He'd be sober.

but then he comes out with

"And he'd be married."

WTF

Slideshowbob

said it before on boards - Millar is an a$$

RobFowl

I like Millar but they were nasty snide and unnecessary comments.

Says more about Millar unfortunately than it does about Landis.

At this stage he's lost his career, wife and feels responsible to an extent for his father in laws suicide.

A better man than me said he without sin cast the first stone....

petethedrummer

Millar also had the benefit of being locked in a police cell to encourage his confession. But he didn't finger anyone, did the doping all himself, so he gets back into the peloton no bother.

Had a few drinks himself on his year out ....its all here.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Millar

irishmotorist

sy wrote: »

Millar
but then he comes out with
WTF

Quotes missing, but this is disgusting. Is he still protecting the soup from any spits that might head it's way?