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History's in the Past ... the verdict (merged)

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  • #52
    MiamiMortimer
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭MiamiMortimer


    Emmpty wrote: »
    I said W.T Cosgrave cause he used the good relations more to his advantage and Dev was a bit more flukey. But by the end of it I was more leaning towards dev...

    It was a lovely paper though! I only wrote about 3.5 pages each but anymore then that and I'd start talking crap and my hand would fall off.

    I feel your pain!!!!!

    I don't know how people could write more than 4 pages on everything to be honest, there really, really isn't time for that. Mine were about 3-4 and roughly seven paragraphs in each? Worried about paragraphs, actually...knew they should be shorter but how can you break up one point in two?!


  • #53
    hokeypokey
    Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭hokeypokey


    kfpt wrote: »
    to anyone saying that they wrote 9 pages and 7 pages on each essay..cut the crap..you cant possibly write that much info on a topic without wafflng like and idiot....and you would even have time to do that its only 2 hours 50 mins!!!!!...3.5 on each essay and 2 for the contextualisation is enough!!

    I did 27/28 pages together and noe of mine wasnt waffle. i id the partition 1912-1920, germany 1920-1939 and vietnam. I wrote 7 for each and nearly 3 pages for the contextualisation. There was that much in germany and partition i had to leave important things out. There was a tiny bit of waffle in my LBJ question...


  • #54
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    hokeypokey wrote: »
    I did 27/28 pages together and noe of mine wasnt waffle. i id the partition 1912-1920, germany 1920-1939 and vietnam. I wrote 7 for each and nearly 3 pages for the contextualisation. There was that much in germany and partition i had to leave important things out. There was a tiny bit of waffle in my LBJ question...
    How many words do you get to the line?! I thought I had big writing...


  • #55
    kfpt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭kfpt


    zam wrote: »
    Some people have massive writing! 3.5 is deffo enough but I wrote a lot more only because as the exam goes on my writing gets bigger and bigger and bigger :P Some people in my exam centre were asking for extra paper after the first forty minutes though! That scared me...
    .even so 9 pages ye must be only getiing 4 words on a line!?!?!?!


    well mayb my wrtings small i dunno...yer exam booklets must be really small....ours are massive...diddnt even fill it in english


  • #56
    Bob the Builder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder


    27-28 pages is impossible :eek:

    How do you do it?


  • #57
    kfpt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭kfpt


    hokeypokey wrote: »
    I did 27/28 pages together and noe of mine wasnt waffle. i id the partition 1912-1920, germany 1920-1939 and vietnam. I wrote 7 for each and nearly 3 pages for the contextualisation. There was that much in germany and partition i had to leave important things out. There was a tiny bit of waffle in my LBJ question...

    thats nearly 3 times what ur expected to write .....how many words on a line is that??..4??


  • #58
    MiamiMortimer
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭MiamiMortimer


    Bob the Builder wrote: »
    27-28 pages is impossible :eek:

    How do you do it?

    Have to agree with you there, don't understand how it can physically be done in 2hours 50mins....


  • #59
    Emmpty
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭Emmpty


    MiamiMortimer wrote: »
    I feel your pain!!!!!

    I don't know how people could write more than 4 pages on everything to be honest, there really, really isn't time for that. Mine were about 3-4 and roughly seven paragraphs in each? Worried about paragraphs, actually...knew they should be shorter but how can you break up one point in two?!

    Don't worry about the paragraphs the examiner will break them up for you.

    Yeah I physically can't write more then 4 pages. Maybe people who write more have things learned off?


  • #60
    MiamiMortimer
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭MiamiMortimer


    Emmpty wrote: »
    Don't worry about the paragraphs the examiner will break them up for you.

    Yeah I physically can't write more then 4 pages. Maybe people who write more have things learned off?

    Thanks! Lost a load of marks in the mocks because the examiner didn't break up anything, been worried about paragraphs ever since as a result... :o


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  • #61
    kfpt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭kfpt


    Emmpty wrote: »
    Don't worry about the paragraphs the examiner will break them up for you.

    Yeah I physically can't write more then 4 pages. Maybe people who write more have things learned off?


    or there talkn crap..its not even done in that much detail on the book ffs!


  • #62
    hokeypokey
    Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭hokeypokey


    kfpt wrote: »
    thats nearly 3 times what ur expected to write .....how many words on a line is that??..4??

    no about 7 or 8 words per line.


  • #63
    Bob the Builder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder


    Mmmmkkay! And what grade are you expecting then well so? 27/28 pages must contain some amount of facts


  • #64
    Victoria.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭Victoria.


    Delighted with history. I really thought I was going to start crying at the lunch break though before it. I messed up my french so badly :(

    I wrote about 4 pages on each and I did eucharistic congress and culture, stalin's policies and communism in eastern europe and hungarian uprising :)


  • #65
    kfpt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭kfpt


    hokeypokey wrote: »
    no about 7 or 8 words per line.

    im sorry mate but u cant write that much in an exam its impossible most people would manage 10 -12 pages wtiting that much ..and u did 27?? ....what questions did u do???


  • #66
    hokeypokey
    Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭hokeypokey


    kfpt wrote: »
    im sorry mate but u cant write that much in an exam its impossible most people would manage 10 -12 pages wtiting that much ..and u did 27?? ....what questions did u do???

    the partition one, germany 1920-1940 and LBJ,...


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  • #67
    kfpt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭kfpt


    Bob the Builder wrote: »
    Mmmmkkay! And what grade are you expecting then well so? 27/28 pages must contain some amount of facts


    its a feckn book by the sound of it


  • #68
    Skintwin
    Registered Users Posts: 584 ✭✭✭Skintwin


    Happy with Document, DicDem and America......didn't revise Cultural identity, as i was going to do the NI question, but I didn't like it......
    Wrote 2 for the Document
    2 1/2 for cultural identity (big wrting)
    3 1/2 for Church State
    3 1/2 for Economic boom (both small writing)

    Was pretty happy with what I wrote, but hopefully they'll go on quality not quantity............:cool:


  • #69
    DayTripper
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭DayTripper


    Fairly happy with how it went, everything I studied for came up!
    I did
    - Documents: about 3 pages, with 1 for Contextualisation
    - Eucharistic Congress about 2.5
    - Lyndon Johnson (or Vietnam basically :p), 3.5
    - Church-State Relations... Only got a page full of points about what I would have written down with more time :rolleyes: better than nothing though!

    Just wondering, how many words would you's fit on a line?
    Someone was asking about it before, just curious! I'd get around 16 or 17.


  • #70
    NufcNavan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭NufcNavan


    Fionaxoxox wrote: »
    Delighted with the paper! All the things I hoped would come up came up! I did:

    Irish: Cosgrave and DeValera: Anglo-Irish Relations
    D & D :Church-State Relations
    USA: American Economic Boom

    So happy it is over with! :) I wonder what I will get....

    Wrote about 6-7 pages on each.
    You must have absolutely massive writing.


  • #71
    NufcNavan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭NufcNavan


    hokeypokey wrote: »
    I did 27/28 pages together and noe of mine wasnt waffle. i id the partition 1912-1920, germany 1920-1939 and vietnam. I wrote 7 for each and nearly 3 pages for the contextualisation. There was that much in germany and partition i had to leave important things out. There was a tiny bit of waffle in my LBJ question...
    Lies.


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  • #72
    MiamiMortimer
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭MiamiMortimer


    DayTripper wrote: »
    Just wondering, how many words would you's fit on a line?
    Someone was asking about it before, just curious! I'd get around 16 or 17.

    I'd fit about 14 or 15-your writing must be tiny! Mine's quite small, my teachers used to constantly complain about it. It's not joined and very slanted too, though...had to start writing in upright letters for the Leaving so the examiners could read it!!!


  • #73
    aarglynn
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭aarglynn


    Got 27 pages myself.. I find it funny that people who write a lot are being attacked on this thread. At the end of the day history rewards people who write a lot, you have to force your examiner into awarding you your 60 cumulative marks!

    Document was lovely, flew through that, Criticism questions were even handy this year. 3 pages on the Contextualisation.

    Sovereignity + Partition
    Did the Anglo-Irish relations, grand question. Dev was definitely more effective, even if Cosgrave made progress without confrontation.

    Dictatorship + Democracy
    Church state relations, found it fairly tough as i did it last and was quite rushed. Was waiting near 10 minutes for the examiner to get me more paper, he had packed all the materials away in the box and couldnt find the stamp, it was a disaster i was losing it.

    American section
    Did the Johnson essay, talked about all his early successes in promising his great society, the space race, and how he ained support through his early years in Vietnam. Than all his failures in Vietnam pretty much.

    Did around 7 pages for each, around 8/9 words per line for those interested :D


  • #74
    Enid.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭Enid.


    For someone who got 50% in the mock, that paper was an absolute dream.

    2 and a bit on Q4 Sunningdale
    4 on Berlin/Korea/Cuba in the American section
    3 on Church-State relations (I had to do my last 2 paragraphs in point form but at least I did that!)
    3 and a bit on Dev/Cosgrave and their Anglo-Irish relations (I did the most amazing conclusion here cos I was just so tired and strung out on writing - it was all like in the eyes of the British government Cumann na nGaedhl were better at A-I relations, but to the Irish people Fiann Fail were etc. Pure and utter BS)


  • #75
    MiamiMortimer
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭MiamiMortimer


    Enid. wrote: »
    3 and a bit on Dev/Cosgrave and their Anglo-Irish relations (I did the most amazing conclusion here cos I was just so tired and strung out on writing - it was all like in the eyes of the British government Cumann na nGaedhl were better at A-I relations, but to the Irish people Fiann Fail were etc. Pure and utter BS)

    Haha, I love the conclusions all right! One time I got so sick of all the writing I repeated the title as a conclusion-one line-and left it. Not today, though. Still, my conclusions were anything but awe inspiring all the same....


  • #76
    EveBann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭EveBann


    I wrote about 24 pages altogether,never written essays that length in my life about 5-6 per essay..i dont think it was very waffly but my writing's quite big..my hand is aching so bad right now though..and i have to study..


  • #77
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Fair play to everyone who managed to write that much but at the end of the day it IS quality over quantity and although to properly answer the question you do need to write a few pages, it isn't necessary to write 6-7 pages to do well so don't feel intimidated if you only got 3-5 pages because that's plenty!


  • #78
    DayTripper
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭DayTripper


    MiamiMortimer wrote: »
    I'd fit about 14 or 15-your writing must be tiny! Mine's quite small, my teachers used to constantly complain about it. It's not joined and very slanted too, though...had to start writing in upright letters for the Leaving so the examiners could read it!!!

    Yeah it's small enough alright! Same, don't do joined writing and it's fairly straight except for halfway through the exam :p It got progressively worse towards the end!


  • #79
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    For the question about Sunningdale, when it said what were the difficulties of implementing Sunningdale, I took that to mean actually putting in place the agreement with the various problems and such. Didn't go into how it failed or mention the strike or anything, will I lose marks for that?


  • #80
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm in bits here now. French in the morning and History in the afternoon. I have a headache worse than Trotsky's now.


  • #81
    RyanK
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭RyanK


    Well you see you can easily get 60/60 in 4 pages. And that means it's not that hard to get the other 40/40. So even if you did do 7-9 pages per essay, good for you, but it doesn't mean you're going to get a higher mark than someone who wrote 4-5 pagers per essay.


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  • #82
    pbowenroe
    Registered Users Posts: 467 ✭✭pbowenroe


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    For the question about Sunningdale, when it said what were the difficulties of implementing Sunningdale, I took that to mean actually putting in place the agreement with the various problems and such. Didn't go into how it failed or mention the strike or anything, will I lose marks for that?

    The way I went about answering that question was to just talk bout why it failed. Dunno 'bout anyone else.


  • #83
    MiamiMortimer
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭MiamiMortimer


    DayTripper wrote: »
    Yeah it's small enough alright! Same, don't do joined writing and it's fairly straight except for halfway through the exam :p It got progressively worse towards the end!

    Oh God, mine too!! It's probably completely incoherent at the end, but hopefully they'll see through it!


  • #84
    RexMundi
    Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭RexMundi


    theowen wrote: »
    Did everyone say DeV was better ye?

    No. I said Cosgrave was better.. largely because he was...


  • #85
    repeat92
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 ✭repeat92


    i learned 6 essays going into the exams and all of them came up.. HAPPY DAYS MAAAAN... seeing as everyone found history easy it is definately going to be marked really hard..LIKE REALLY HARD.. so dont start smiling yet


  • #86
    MiamiMortimer
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭MiamiMortimer


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'm in bits here now. French in the morning and History in the afternoon. I have a headache worse than Trotsky's now.

    Heehee, love the history-flavoured comment!!!!


  • #87
    pbowenroe
    Registered Users Posts: 467 ✭✭pbowenroe


    repeat92 wrote: »
    i learned 6 essays going into the exams and all of them came up.. HAPPY DAYS MAAAAN... seeing as everyone found history easy it is definately going to be marked really hard..LIKE REALLY HARD.. so dont start smiling yet

    Repeat92 your predictions were unbelieveable. The only thing I studied this morning for D&D was church-state relations, which you said was a dead cert.
    Thanks man.;)


  • #88
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    pbowenroe wrote: »
    The way I went about answering that question was to just talk bout why it failed. Dunno 'bout anyone else.

    Ye I was thinking that, but ended up talking about the actual problems before it was actually implemented. I took it to mean what were the problems in acheiving a sunningdale agreement, but even then I should really talked about the strike, the British Labour's party inaction etc.

    Oh well, can only hope for best.


  • #89
    kfpt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭kfpt


    RyanK wrote: »
    Well you see you can easily get 60/60 in 4 pages. And that means it's not that hard to get the other 40/40. So even if you did do 7-9 pages per essay, good for you, but it doesn't mean you're going to get a higher mark than someone who wrote 4-5 pagers per essay.

    agreed....its 12 marks per paragraph so 6 paragraphs is enough ..and thats with normal sized writing

    oh and we're not attacking you we're jus sceptical as to if ur talkn ****e or not

    that and jealousy


  • #90
    repeat92
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 ✭repeat92


    the funny thing is i found all the essays easy enough but i found the document question besides part 4 really hard.. wtf like.. the answer is in the god damn questions..


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  • #91
    repeat92
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 ✭repeat92


    dont mention it dude.. and loads of people were sceptical of my predictions.. i got a feckin A1 last yr by predicting im pretty sure i can predict the paper again..


  • #92
    SEInvincible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41 ✭SEInvincible


    pbowenroe wrote: »
    The way I went about answering that question was to just talk bout why it failed. Dunno 'bout anyone else.


    i like your style. some waffler's on this .


  • #93
    orlabobs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭orlabobs


    kfpt wrote: »
    to anyone saying that they wrote 9 pages and 7 pages on each essay..cut the crap..you cant possibly write that much info on a topic without wafflng like and idiot....and you would even have time to do that its only 2 hours 50 mins!!!!!...3.5 on each essay and 2 for the contextualisation is enough!!

    Ok yes 9 pages is a bit excessive, but I was able to write about 5 pages in about 35 mins. I'm not bragging or anything, but some people are able to just write faster. So if they knew exactly what they were going to write, they woulda been able to get a good few pages. It works for some and not for others/


  • #94
    orlabobs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭orlabobs


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    For the question about Sunningdale, when it said what were the difficulties of implementing Sunningdale, I took that to mean actually putting in place the agreement with the various problems and such. Didn't go into how it failed or mention the strike or anything, will I lose marks for that?

    Eh, possibly but I'd say that u'd only be penalised a bit. I wouldn't stress too much about it.


  • #95
    orlabobs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭orlabobs


    Ah it's all History now! Just like the Anglo Irish relations, we've split up and I'm delighted! :)
    (Don't get me wrong, I love History, but the course is as fat as Henry 8!)


  • #96
    MiamiMortimer
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭MiamiMortimer


    Mwahaha!

    And as serious as deValera!
    (A poor one....oh well, I tried! :D)


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  • #97
    orlabobs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭orlabobs


    MiamiMortimer wrote: »
    Mwahaha!

    And as serious as deValera!
    (A poor one....oh well, I tried! :D)

    haha! true, but it's the thought that counts! :)


  • #98
    Tony1130
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31 ✭Tony1130


    - Partition 4.5 pages
    - Church State Relations 2.5 pages but i mentioned pretty much everyting there is to say
    - Cuba,Korea,Berlin only 1.80 pages :( i mentioned a lot in it but i was running out of time & didnt even get time to go bk to documents to do Q4 :(
    despite my short cuba essay and not doin Q 4 id say im a definite C either c1 c2 c3 wit a gd project

    its physically impossible to around 20 a4 unless ur handwriting is 3x normal size... or ur arm is bionic :cool:


  • #99
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    orlabobs wrote: »
    Eh, possibly but I'd say that u'd only be penalised a bit. I wouldn't stress too much about it.

    Yeah, you're right, thanks. Nice to have it over and done with anyway!


  • #100
    orlabobs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭orlabobs


    Tony1130 wrote: »
    - Partition 4.5 pages
    - Church State Relations 2.5 pages but i mentioned pretty much everyting there is to say
    - Cuba,Korea,Berlin only 1.80 pages :( i mentioned a lot in it but i was running out of time & didnt even get time to go bk to documents to do Q4 :(
    despite my short cuba essay and not doin Q 4 id say im a definite C either c1 c2 c3 wit a gd project

    its physically impossible to around 20 a4 unless ur handwriting is 3x normal size... or ur arm is bionic :cool:

    U didn't do document? oh dear. well no worries! :) but it's not impossible to do around 20 a4 pages. I was just a page and a half after finishing the booklet. It just depends on how fast you write and what you know really. Did you find the q's hard?


  • #101
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I screwed up bad, very bad


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