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Bikers, and why they die.

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  • #32
    TJJP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭TJJP


    rev2.0 wrote: »
    What a stupid comment to make! So every biker is gonna come off?? :rolleyes:

    Whats wrong with filtering in stationary traffic?

    Define your version of 'stationary traffic'? I think I see where you’re coming from but I don't think your idea is shared definition.


  • #33
    smellslikeshoes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    dunsandin wrote: »
    You are right!!!! So why go there??????

    It's not something you can explain to someone. You either love bikes or you don't.


  • #34
    SV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,533 ✭✭✭SV


    rev2.0 wrote: »
    Yet you fall off a bike and you'll never walk away??

    No but in fairness you're more likely to do serious damage to yourself.


  • #35
    dunsandin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭dunsandin


    P.C. wrote: »
    You need to leave the rant.
    I am sorry that you came off your bike, but there is no need to go on a rant, and tell me that I am 'going down'.

    My bike is NOT a hiding to nothing.

    Yeah it is. Sorry, but chances are, it is. Its transport, the image is a marlboro man thing, but at the end of the day, its transport. I smoke, you ride a bike, same difference. I crashed 10 years ago, so theres no rant left.


  • #36
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,987 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    TJJP wrote: »
    Eh - no it seems not. That comment was unfair and unwarranted - retraction anyone?
    dunsandin wrote: »
    Yeah it is. Sorry, but chances are, it is. Its transport, the image is a marlboro man thing, but at the end of the day, its transport. I smoke, you ride a bike, same difference. I crashed 10 years ago, so theres no rant left.

    seems like the OP has admitted to a little rant, care to retract your statement???????????

    anyway , thats way OT.


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  • #37
    SV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,533 ✭✭✭SV


    oh and may I add..
    just to stir it up here..



    Bikes are infintely better than cars in every single way except shelter ;)


  • #38
    P.C.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭P.C.


    dunsandin wrote: »
    Yeah it is. Sorry, but chances are, it is. Its transport, the image is a marlboro man thing, but at the end of the day, its transport. I smoke, you ride a bike, same difference.

    Oh dear.

    Now, you know exactly how well I can ride a bike. :eek:

    To me, my car is transport an enjoyable and comfortable way to get around.
    The bus is transport.

    My bike is a lot more than transport.

    What has your smoking got to do with my bike?


  • #39
    c-note
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭c-note


    Theres plenty of good/responsible/sensible bikers around,
    but in a crash they're pretty fecked either way,

    someone once said to me:

    Theres bold bikers, theres old bikers, but theres no old bold bikers, go figure.


  • #40
    dunsandin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭dunsandin


    kceire wrote: »
    seems like the OP has admitted to a little rant, care to retract your statement???????????

    anyway , thats way OT.

    No way what so ever. I am not ranting, I am as cool as a cucumber, I just reckon, if you ride a bike, read a paper. They are cool as hell, but in the wrong hands, they are deadly, and there seems to be a lot of "wrong hands".:)


  • #41
    TJJP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭TJJP


    kceire wrote: »
    seems like the OP has admitted to a little rant, care to retract your statement???????????

    anyway , thats way OT.

    OK I'm lost. I see no such statement. Maybe your visor is in the way.

    You're otherwise all good with me, but I thought your 'go for a walk' was a bit low.


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  • #42
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,987 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    dunsandin wrote: »
    No way what so ever. I am not ranting, I am as cool as a cucumber, I just reckon, if you ride a bike, read a paper. They are cool as hell, but in the wrong hands, they are deadly, and there seems to be a lot of "wrong hands".:)

    now you are talking with a clear and level head, all the other posts come accross as rants.
    TJJP wrote: »
    OK I'm lost. I see no such statement. Maybe your visor is in the way.

    You're otherwise all good with me, but I thought your 'go for a walk' was a bit low.

    its a tongue in cheek comment, dear god people need to stop ranting and moaning, theres alot to life than trying to nit pick other road users off the road. if somebody wants to drive a bike let them, heck, why dont we only allow bikes on the road then no bikers would die, does that suit you? maybe not?




    ps, i drive an Audi S3 not a bike.................


  • #43
    TJJP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭TJJP


    ooh Quick edit. we're all friends here too afterall it seems. Nothing to see here....


  • #44
    dunsandin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭dunsandin


    I went to eastern europe to see a pal, and he collected me from the airport on a BMW 1000, and I sat on the pillion for a week, and marvelled at how he was still alive. Mostly, the car drivers around us were in the wrong, but he was the one gonna be in the hospital.


  • #45
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    CaraFawn wrote: »
    What do you mean?
    Contact this forum, just ask them what a cage is. :D


  • #46
    dunsandin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭dunsandin


    In the original incident, Im up 6' in a dirty great Iveco. The biker is on a 250cc hairdryer. I might sweat and fret, but he's going down, I'm explaining to the Gardai what happened, worse case. How is that a rant. Thats just pointing out facts. Maybe I just would like it if a certain minority of bikers copped on. Some are great, some are cracked.


  • #47
    P.C.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭P.C.


    kceire wrote: »
    ps, i drive an Audi S3 not a bike.................


    You so need to get a bike.

    Now - what bike would I recomend for an Audi driver...


  • #48
    agrostar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭agrostar


    Hey there dont mean to offend or annoy anyone but i can see both sides of this tread. I am a biker on fine days and car driver everyother day which happen to be 99% of the days that come as are the majority of bikers. For the 1% of days i take da bike out its like i loose all commonsense, look I no im a clown but its what i do. Everytime i look back on my actions i have regrets and no there probably was some close shaves but it still doesnt slow me. I pass when it looks safe to do so eventhough the speed may be above recommended limits its only when you get over confident or encounter the unexpected in front of you(which what happens the vast majority of motorcycle fatalities), your in the s**e. I saw there in one tread where someone said there are those who have come off and those that will come off and i agree with this statement only theres abit missing, there are also those who will come off again....... Trust me i know i hit the side of a car at well above limit speed when the driver failed to see me and pulled out in front of me. hit it flat out never even got to touch the brakes........ Made bits of myself two broken legs, shattered kneecap and serious head lasserations as the helmet shattered with the impact over 150 stitches to the face..... This said it wasnt the bikes fault only the bollox on it, people need to be educated as to the danger of the roads whether they be travelling by bike or car and the consequences of the aftermate of these accidents.


  • #49
    smellslikeshoes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    dunsandin wrote: »
    No way what so ever. I am not ranting, I am as cool as a cucumber, I just reckon, if you ride a bike, read a paper. They are cool as hell, but in the wrong hands, they are deadly, and there seems to be a lot of "wrong hands".:)

    When you consider the fact that there are much less bikes on the road than cars there are a lot more cars in bad hands than bikes.

    I'm really not understanding the point of this thread anymore, bikers know the dangers. We are reminded of them every day when we have a car pull out on us or we hear about a fallen biker. We don't need threads telling us this.

    All bikers want from car drivers is them to take an extra look for bikers, simple as that and nothing else.


  • #50
    TJJP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭TJJP


    dunsandin wrote: »
    In the original incident, Im up 6' in a dirty great Iveco. The biker is on a 250cc hairdryer. I might sweat and fret, but he's going down, I'm explaining to the Gardai what happened, worse case. How is that a rant. Thats just pointing out facts. Maybe I just would like it if a certain minority of bikers copped on. Some are great, some are cracked.

    And some, rather close to home, are dead.


  • #51
    dunsandin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭dunsandin


    kceire wrote: »
    now you are talking with a clear and level head, all the other posts come accross as rants.



    its a tongue in cheek comment, dear god people need to stop ranting and moaning, theres alot to life than trying to nit pick other road users off the road. if somebody wants to drive a bike let them, heck, why dont we only allow bikes on the road then no bikers would die, does that suit you? maybe not?




    ps, i drive an Audi S3 not a bike.................

    Not bleedin ranting:D:D


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  • #52
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,987 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    P.C. wrote: »
    You so need to get a bike.

    Now - what bike would I recomend for an Audi driver...

    ive had alot of bikes PC, from KMX 125's as scramblers then on the road to mopeds for fun, to a DRZ400 to a Bandit 600.

    S3 is just my latest car, have had 4 during the last year....get bored very easily :D


  • #53
    AgileMyth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭AgileMyth


    cronin_j wrote: »
    Most bikers are grand, but i seem to meet the worst of them driving to work everymorning, once every 2 months i see one ramming into the back of a car by the little roundabout by the esso in sandymount.
    I don't believe I've ever left my house in any vehicle without spotting some twat in a car doing something stupid. Obviously there are idiot bikers out there but this thread is generalising a large community. Its offensive and unneccessary.


  • #54
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    I'd guess that because even the crappiest bike can out perform a Golf GTI (for example), that speed and power makes bikers do crazy things. I've come off bicycles and been injured, chances are if I was on a motorbike I'd come off at much higher speed with much worse injuries. They're not for me anyway.


  • #55
    dunsandin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭dunsandin


    smellslikeshoes wrote: »
    When you consider the fact that there a much less bikes on the road than cars there are a lot more cars in bad hands than bikes.

    I'm really not understanding the point of this thread anymore, bikers know the dangers. We are reminded of them every day when we have a car pull out on us or we hear about a fallen biker. We don't need threads telling us this.

    All bikers want from car drivers is them to an extra look for bikers, simple as that and nothing else.

    Thats what I gave that lad in Rathnew, but he was oblivious. I think bikers are too defensive. If you want to ride one, go ahead, but be aware that when you are on it, you are one misjudged pass or one careless pull out away from being creamed. A bit more cop from some 2 wheelers and many 4 wheelers would go a long way.


  • #56
    P.C.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭P.C.


    agrostar wrote: »
    Hey there dont mean to offend or annoy anyone but I can see both sides of this tread.

    I am a biker on fine days and car driver everyother day, which happen to be 99% of the days that come, as are the majority of bikers.
    For the 1% of days I take the bike out its like i loose all commonsense.
    Look I no im a clown but its what Ii do.
    Everytime I look back on my actions I have regrets, and no there probably was some close shaves but it still doesnt slow me.
    I pass when it looks safe to do so eventhough the speed may be above recommended limits.
    Its only when you get over confident or encounter the unexpected in front of you(which what happens the vast majority of motorcycle fatalities), your in the s**e.

    I saw there in one thread where someone said there are those who have come off and those that will come off and i agree with this statement, only theres a bit missing, there are also those who will come off again.......

    Trust me I know I hit the side of a car at well above limit speed when the driver failed to see me and pulled out in front of me.
    Hit it flat out never even got to touch the brakes........
    Made bits of myself two broken legs, shattered kneecap and serious head lasserations, as the helmet shattered with the impact.
    Over 150 stitches to the face.....
    This said it wasnt the bikes fault only the bollox on it.

    People need to be educated as to the danger of the roads whether they be travelling by bike or car and the consequences of the aftermate of these accidents.

    .


  • #57
    dunsandin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭dunsandin


    AgileMyth wrote: »
    I don't believe I've ever left my house in any vehicle without spotting some twat in a car doing something stupid. Obviously there are idiot bikers out there but this thread is generalising a large community. Its offensive and unneccessary.

    What? Don't want to face reality? How is it offensive? Explain please. Just as an aside, a flid in a starlet turbo head-on'd my sisters car last year leaving her disabled, so cars are not immune, but thats one person. I can bore you with my list of broke up and dead close friend bikers.


  • #58
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    dunsandin wrote: »
    Who cares who is at fault? The outcome is the same. My two mates bought racers, both were keen bikers. They headed off to the TT, full of the joys of going racing. In the first race, 1 hit a wall at 100kph. The other sold his bike and cant look at one now. Roll your eyes mate. Nobody here was rolling theirs. My real point was this, do bikers not see how vulnerable they are, and ride appropriatly -eg control their lane, dont drive erratically, overtake sensibly? This is not an anti-biker rant. I agree most are hit by dumb car drivers, but why put yourself there?
    I have now over 30 years experienced on bikes, first was a Triumph Cub 200. My old man twisted my arm to get a car, i gave in and got one, Two years later I almost lost my life in a crash 6 ribs and collapsed lung. Touch wood the only injuries so far in biking was a broken toe when a Taxi pulled out in front of me a few years ago. I currently ride a GSXR 750. :)


  • #59
    dunsandin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭dunsandin


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    I have now over 30 years experienced on bikes, first was a Triumph Cub 200. My old man twisted my arm to get a car, i gave in and got one, Two years later I almost lost my life in a crash 6 ribs and collapsed lung. Touch wood the only injuries so far in biking was a broken toe when a Taxi pulled out in front of me a few years ago. I currently ride a GSXR 750. :)

    Ha Ha, thats a GEEZER 750. Great bike!! Maybe I'm not coming across right here. I get the appeal of bikes. I suppose I just don't get the appeal of riding like a schmuck. Clearer? I bring my lads to mondello to watch the bike races regular-thats the place for a really fast bike, the public roads just that bit unforgiving.....


  • #60
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    dunsandin wrote: »
    Ha Ha, thats a GEEZER 750. Great bike!! Maybe I'm not coming across right here. I get the appeal of bikes. I suppose I just don't get the appeal of riding like a schmuck. Clearer?
    I have stable mates. :)

    2ikr2h5.jpg


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  • #61
    dunsandin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭dunsandin


    Nice, mine was the bluey!!! Do miss it, but but dont miss the near misses!


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