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Sick of seeing people dealing every morning

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    #62
    empirix
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    trellheim wrote: »
    Well they do this at Talbot St. because

    a: they can shelter under the bridge when it rains.

    b: Dealer McDope doesn't have far to go from the DART station, his customers are waiting for him.

    c: Nobody really hassles them so they keep going back there.

    Now, if we hassled the dealers we might get somewhere.

    a: no they don't, they are never under that bridge, they do sometimes be under the bridge at connolly station, a lot of em hand around foley st.
    b: dealer mcdope - gets a dart, i think not, too complicated, a push bike is usually transport of choice
    c: now whos going to hassle junkies, best ignored, however the garda do the odd time -they need to step this up

    i know this as i work in Connolly


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    #63
    gurramok
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    We witnessed a mugging of a girl 2 weeks ago in the same area. Not only that but we saw were the mugger's were . I went into Pearse street Garda station and told them if they go no , they will get the guys . They told me that they will put the word out as they cant go right now as they are too busy. They took my name and i have heard nothing .
    Then this week a work colligue of mine was mugged in the exact same place.

    Where exactly is this street, Marlborough st? It seems odd you went way over to Pearse st if it happened on Marlborough st. Anyway, let us know so the rest of us can be aware.;)


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    #64
    DoIMakeUHorny?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭DoIMakeUHorny?


    I understand your concern about the public showing of blatant drug dealing and it can have a bad affect on the said neighbourhood, however, I believe in liberty to the fullest. Let a man do whatever he wants, it's his body.

    Perhaps, they should do it all down some back alley. Whatever they want to do with their life is fine by me, no problems, I'm just embarrassed that visitors/tourists with a less open mind may see things differently.


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    #65
    thebaldsoprano
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    Truley wrote: »
    Jaaaysus Joe, isn't it tewible Joe :rolleyes:

    Seriouly though some of you guys need to get out more. If seeing a few junkies on your way to work is your biggest inconvienience then you haven't much to complain about. Just be thankful you don't have any real problems in your life.
    recylingbin wrote: »
    Get off at Connolly station.
    Problem solved.

    Nope, ye're the ones who need to get out more... Try walking out of the block where you're living in the city centre only to be met by a bunch of used syringes in the lobby.

    This crap destroys lives and communities and the OP is right that ignoring the problem isn't good enough.


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    #66
    Tail Wagger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Tail Wagger


    Well I suppose it's a change from seeing someone getting mugged for a few quid!


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    #67
    Tail Wagger
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I see these guys ever day too.I see about 3 deals a day but i only see the Garda giving tickets to people on their mobile phones stuck in traffic or Taxi Drivers.

    We witnessed a mugging of a girl 2 weeks ago in the same area. Not only that but we saw were the mugger's were . I went into Pearse street Garda station and told them if they go no , they will get the guys . They told me that they will put the word out as they cant go right now as they are too busy. They took my name and i have heard nothing .
    Then this week a work colligue of mine was mugged in the exact same place.

    Maybe by mistake, you gave the cops your work colligue's name and number? before they put the word out!


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    #68
    citizen_p
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    if they dont bother you, leave it be, its going to happen, dress like them, say hi occasionaly and try to fit in, then your peers can pressure you


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    #69
    bigeasyeah
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    Marlo be trippin ya ll


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    #70
    Happynappy
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    mikom wrote: »
    I know they call Dubs West Brits, but like........

    Good luck with that comment


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    #71
    crybaby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭crybaby


    Considering how small the city centre is really its ridiculous that the police can not get a hand on blatant drug dealing. I just came back to Ireland for a 5 week break and ever ytime I got off the bus on Marlborough St I felt like I was walking a f*cking gauntlet of scum before I got to the quays.


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    #72
    thebullkf
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    df1985 wrote: »
    Id imagine it would just be a time consuming pointless exercise to just keep moving them on. Not to mention a waste of time and taxpayers money to arrest them only for them to go through the courts and be released again with a conviction they couldnt give two ****s about. serious flaws in the system.

    In a way though, we all know where they are e.g the boardwalk from o connell bridge down to liberty hall, and for the most part as a result we can avoid them and turn a blind eye to it rightly or wrongly.If i were to sit on the boardwalk for whatever reason i know to sit at a different place.If they were dotted all over town i might find it more irritating. now if only we could keep the gypsies all in the one bloody place and avoid like the plague.....

    don't forget the blacks,browns,jews,spic's,gays and the great unwashed:rolleyes::rolleyes:


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    #73
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    strobe wrote: »
    But, M.J.M.C, the Nazi's didn't cure anything! The Jews are still rampant..


    Cure - Jews - "still rampant"!.


    Sigh.


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    #74
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,590 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    saywhatyousee wrote: »
    i know its sad these people should be able to buy it in a shop and not off criminals in the street.people should be able to do as they please so long as they dont interfear with anyones free will.abolish petty laws they are a hinderence on the people
    saywhatyousee wrote: »
    does it really matter once you give someone money it is theres to keep regardless if they work, dole whatever they should be free to spend there money on whatever they like

    Do you seriously believe this lot are working for their drugs? They are interfering with people. They intimidate people, rob, steal and beg....puke everywhere


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    #75
    DeVore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    One idiot has been booted for his "Jews" comment, the rest of you would be best to remember our civility rules around here. Racism is not big nor clever.

    It just makes you look like a paste-licking monobrow.

    DeV.


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    #76
    DeVore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Maki, I took Strobes comment to be an ironic joke at the expense of MJMC. I've given him the benefit of the doubt.

    DeV.


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    #77
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    DeVore wrote: »
    Maki, I took Strobes comment to be an ironic joke at the expense of MJMC. I've given him the benefit of the doubt.

    DeV.


    Woo, sorry I didn't even report it. Its cool with me.


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    #78
    laugh
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    Faye Thousands Marine wrote: »
    Baltinglass isn't a town, it's a hole in the ground ;)

    Whats the story with bringing up Baltinglass in this?

    Oh and for the record that guy Larry Murphy is not from Baltinglass.


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    #79
    Truley
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    thebaldsoprano wrote: »
    Nope, ye're the ones who need to get out more... Try walking out of the block where you're living in the city centre only to be met by a bunch of used syringes in the lobby.

    This crap destroys lives and communities and the OP is right that ignoring the problem isn't good enough.

    I lived in the Liberties for four years as well as worked in homeless shelters and drug rehabilitation clinics, so don't tell me I don't know what goes on in Dublin :rolleyes:

    Drugs destroy lives and communities, so does Alcohol, so does abuse. The OPs issue wasn't with the damaging effects of herion. People here are complaining of the unsightliness of having to see people blatantly use it in public.

    The majority of people here have little to no direct experience with herion and it's effects, and I think you are being naive by thinking the Gardai sould be doing something to keep addicts away from the sight of the delicate public. They have an addiction, that doesn't make them lesser human beings than you. You are lucky your only complaint is seeing a few needles in the street.

    Personally I prefer to be able to see what's going on rather that have the less charming aspects of society swept under the carpet to appease the a few middle class wingers. I have had more trouble/harrassment from drunken student in the inner city than I ever had with the addicts, I rarely hear people complain about them.


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    #80
    Qualitymark
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    We're dealing with drugs the way alcohol was dealt with in Prohibition, and with the same effect - creating a powerful and wealthy criminal elite.


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    #81
    PCPhoto
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    Truley wrote: »
    I lived in the Liberties for four years as well as worked in homeless shelters and drug rehabilitation clinics, so don't tell me I don't know what goes on in Dublin :rolleyes:

    Drugs destroy lives and communities, so does Alcohol, so does abuse. The OPs issue wasn't with the damaging effects of herion. People here are complaining of the unsightliness of having to see people blatantly use it in public.

    The majority of people here have little to no direct experience with herion and it's effects, and I think you are being naive by thinking the Gardai sould be doing something to keep addicts away from the sight of the delicate public. They have an addiction, that doesn't make them lesser human beings than you. You are lucky your only complaint is seeing a few needles in the street.

    Personally I prefer to be able to see what's going on rather that have the less charming aspects of society swept under the carpet to appease the a few middle class wingers. I have had more trouble/harrassment from drunken student in the inner city than I ever had with the addicts, I rarely hear people complain about them.

    Ok... you raise some points ... they have an addiction ... whoop de doo .... are they trying to do anything to beat this addiction ?

    ...... most of them .... NOOOOOO ...

    they continue to (apologies for the generalisation) ....they continue to rob, mug and steal in order to get money for a "fix"

    Personally I have seen so many people strung out in the middle of the day...shuffling along not noticing the traffic or dangers around them, or curled up in a ball with drool coming out of their mouths, completely incapacitated.

    The problem is we dont have the money/facilities to help them.... and they (for the most part) ....dont want help !! - the few that go into drug rehab and come out clean is wiped out by the many who go through the system (purely for so they get a lighter sentence in court) ....eventually when they complete a drug rehab clinic.... where do they go.... back on the streets into the same situation they were in before ... blinded by "friends" giving them fixes.

    Junkies are still scum and a plague on society.... they intimidate, rob and steal from ordinary people, gardai should be given permission to take them off the streets for longer - the current system means they are charged and released...so back on the streets within hours..... most of them dont have or wont give an address for the court summons so they are not before the courts.
    They have an addiction, that doesn't make them lesser human beings than you.
    yes it does ! - they are sub-human because the do not even try to beat their addiction, most of them live with their addiction and see the daily muggings/robberies as part of their life - they dont see the effects their actions have on people and THEY DONT CARE !!.

    junkies quickly become career criminals (even if it is small time - robberies/muggings etc) - they dont care about the consequences of getting caught because the sentences are light and risk of getting caught is fairly low (due to lack of numbers of Gardai on the streets and also lack of interest in catching them...no offence to the Gardai but their idea is go after the big fish and that will stop the smaller dealers/junkies from hurting society....I think this is wrong and the best way to clean up the streets is to increase presence and increase powers to gardai.( unfortunately this will prob lead to some gardai abusing powers...its inevitable)


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    #82
    orourkeda
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    Insurgent wrote: »
    I think it's well establised now that any post in AH that refers to a town means Dublin. Skangers.

    Ahhhhh. A culchie with the hump over Dublin Drug dealing. How Charming


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    #83
    altairscreed
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    laugh wrote: »
    Whats the story with bringing up Baltinglass in this?

    Oh and for the record that guy Larry Murphy is not from Baltinglass.


    OH WELL SOMEONE'S OBSESSED WITH BALTINGLASS :rolleyes: Is everyone upsetting you slagging off your precious little town (hole in the ground) if you live there then you should know that it deserves to be slagged off, for being crap above anything else:D


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    #84
    gurramok
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    Well said PCPhoto. Its their choice to use drugs, no-one forced them into that lifestyle.


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    #85
    laugh
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    altairscreed wrote: »
    OH WELL SOMEONE'S OBSESSED WITH BALTINGLASS :rolleyes: Is everyone upsetting you slagging off your precious little town (hole in the ground) if you live there then you should know that it deserves to be slagged off, for being crap above anything else:D

    Nah, I know some people from there though, I was just curious why it was brought up, is there some in joke I'm missing?


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    #86
    PCPhoto
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    gurramok wrote: »
    Well said PCPhoto. Its their choice to use drugs, no-one forced them into that lifestyle.

    well...I dont think I said that !!

    yes - junkies suffer from an addiction ... but the majority ...DONT make any attempts to get away from their addiction (unless its gonna lead to a smaller jail sentence - and then they'll usually go back on the stuff)

    some junkie kids are born with the addiction - due to muppet junkie parents shooting up during pregnancy


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    #87
    Tar.Aldarion
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    carlop wrote: »
    The other day I was taking 62 Spanish kids on a tour to Dublinia (I'm an English teacher, not some kind of super paedophile). We got off the bus at Wood Quay and as we were walking up to Christchurch passed two junkies dealing.

    Their reaction was pretty funny, I heard one ask the other 'what should we do?' and the guy selling just tells him its fine and starts saying hello to all the kids as they're filing past him and being generally overly nice saying things like 'great day were having' and 'lovely afternoon for a walk.'

    Now that's a super power.


    Annoys me when they deal in the toilet of somewhere and I need to use it.


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    #88
    Truley
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    PCPhoto wrote: »
    Ok... you raise some points ... they have an addiction ... whoop de doo .... are they trying to do anything to beat this addiction ?

    ...... most of them .... NOOOOOO ...

    And you know that do you? Funny because I worked for two years in a rehabilitation centre and demand for the service far outweighed the resources we had. Yes, people do try to come off herion, it's not an easy thing to do you know.
    yes it does ! - they are sub-human because the do not even try to beat their addiction, most of them live with their addiction and see the daily muggings/robberies as part of their life - they dont see the effects their actions have on people and THEY DONT CARE !!.

    How many heroin addicts do you know? How can you say they don't care, Have you ever talked to a heroin addict? From my experience they very much do care, nobody is affected by the consequences of their actions more than the person themselves. They are well aware of it believe me.

    And as for your view of them as sub-human. I have conversed for hours in discussion groups with heroin addicts, and do you know what the hardest part of it all was for most of these men? People like you. The looks of distain they got from members of the public. The isolation they felt. Remember a huge majority of these men came from our government's wonderful care system. They have lived on the margins of society their whole lives, they don't know any different.

    I knew one recovering addict who took his daughter (who he rarely got to see) to Mc Donald's and was asked to leave by staff because they didn't like the way he looked. Not a big deal to someone like you, but to this guy, who was beginning to get his life back together, was dealing with the demons of his past, had finally got a days access to his child, it was a huge kick in the teeth, more than someone like you could imagine. I sat with him later that day while he cried his eyes out. This is the kind of thing they face every single day, with little to no social or familial support. Who are you to say they are not trying to get help? What have you done to make things better?

    Trust me you are lecturing to the wrong person, I actually have first - hand experience with addicts, unlike 99% of people on this thread.

    People like your really scare me :(


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    #89
    Lemsiper
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    M.J.M.C wrote: »
    Solution: Gas chambers.

    Worked for Hitler and the Jews


    Not really, Hitler is gone but the Jews are still here.


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    #90
    gurramok
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    PCPhoto wrote: »
    some junkie kids are born with the addiction - due to muppet junkie parents shooting up during pregnancy

    Thats a tiny unfortunate minority.:(
    Truley wrote: »
    And you know that do you? Funny because I worked for two years in a rehabilitation centre and demand for the service far outweighed the resources we had. Yes, people do try to come off herion, it's not an easy thing to do you know.

    Who forced them to take heroin in the first place?


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    #91
    Collie D
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    Truley wrote: »
    I knew one recovering addict who took his daughter (who he rarely got to see) to Mc Donald's and was asked to leave by staff because they didn't like the way he looked.

    I very much doubt that is true. McDonald's aren't exactly know for their exclusive policies. Basically if you have all your clothes on they'll serve you. More likely he had tried to rob the place IMO. And before you tell me I don't know anything about addicts I'll consider myself as one of the 1%.

    I grew up surrounded by them, I feel sorry for them in a way but at the end of the day I feel more sorry for the poor bastard whose house they've just robbed, the girl left terrified when her handbag is snatched, the tourist with a syringe to his throat or the small businessman who has half a dozen of them outside shouting and fighting scaring off his customers.


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