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Why are most of the Garda in this country such f^%king pricks?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,665 ✭✭✭✭cson


    You drove the wrong way up a one way street? What an idiot.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Larkin91 wrote: »
    Sorry, but the Gardaí are some of the nicest, most polite people I have ever come across. It is a shame they do not get enough respect. The only stories you hear about them are negative ones, which is a shame. The majority of people who deal with Gardaí do not speak out and praise them. People seem to only look out for flaws.

    It should be their duty to behave harshly towards offenders. I know OP you were only pulled over for a minor violation, but the Gardaí have to do their job whether aggressive or not.
    Problem is, they can act aggressively towards victims of crime too. I was assaulted by a gang of lads a few years back and I needed to get to the hospital as I was bleeding with a swollen eye and lip and I needed tetnus shots for cuts on my arm as I caught one of them in the mouth trying to fight back. They told me to go home, I said I NEED to go to the hospital, they again told me to go home or I'd be arrested...

    When I went home two different guards stopped me to see if I was alright and they told me I had to go to the hospital. I told them the situation with the other guards and they were shocked. Someone rang me a taxi and the taxi fair play to him left me up free of charge.

    Some of them are pricks, others are grand. Just depends on your luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 758 ✭✭✭davrho


    The hostility towards Gardaí in this country baffles me.

    Same in every country towards the police. Some people just don't like authority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭messrs


    kjl wrote: »
    Still not answering my question, why does the cop have to be some egotistical power tripping asshole, he could have dealt with the situation a lot better than he did. Ok I made a mistake, but come on I'm not a criminal.


    have to say OP i agree with you - i seriously cannot stand them!

    few years ago, i was in rented accom and got broken into (while i was in the house) i called guards and took them over 2 hours to get out to me (i live bout 10 min walk away) and even then the ones that came out clearly had no interest in it

    another time there were 2 ppl on my street fighting - the man was kicking the woman, she was curled up in ball on the road and i rang the guards and the never bothered to come up to it.

    was in car with someone and got stopped in routine traffic check and guard asked driver did he have full licence, which he did, he then asked to see it - he didnt have it on him so he told him he had 10 days to produce it to his local guarda station (fair enough) he then asked me for my licence and i said i didnt have it and he told me i also had to produce it within 10 days! ( i was a passenger!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,678 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    The hostility towards Gardaí in this country baffles me.

    I think it's a result of their interpersonal skills - or lack of. There are a few nice Gardaí out there who speak correctly to the public, and don't take the job personally, however the majority do speak down to the public like a teacher would to a child. Compare that to any of the UK shows on TV where no matter how much of a scumbag they're dealing with they always remain curteous, professional, but also strict. It's a much more pleasant way of doing things, and fosters much more support in the community.

    I've - through my own weakness of being a speed freak - encounter police in Ireland, the UK, Poland, France, German, Isle of Man, USA. The only time I felt hostile was towards the Irish Gardaí, purely because of the 'I'll show this guy who's boss' attitude that unfortuantely most have. Not all, but most.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭ordinary_girl


    kjl wrote: »
    He came out of his car like a raving lunatic screaming at me, I kept completely calm and asked him to lower his voice and slow down, to which he replied I was being hostile.

    I'm sure you're aware of how very condescending this is to do. Really? Telling a Garda to calm down when you've just gone the wrong way down a one way street? Seriously. If you did get into a car crash guess who'd have to be called out to assist? Argh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    No...

    I'm not a moran that blindly follows a Sat nav without looking out for road signs around me...

    Yeah, you're a moron, who can't spell or click spell check.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    kjl wrote: »
    Yeah, you're a moron, who can't spell or click spell check.

    Taht cahgnes mi pint becuase?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    I'm sure you're aware of how very condescending this is to do. Really? Telling a Garda to calm down when you've just gone the wrong way down a one way street? Seriously. If you did get into a car crash guess who'd have to be called out to assist? Argh.

    I only entered the street, and pulled over instantly, I told him to calm down because he was screaming at me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 758 ✭✭✭davrho


    messrs wrote: »

    was in car with someone and got stopped in routine traffic check and guard asked driver did he have full licence, which he did, he then asked to see it - he didnt have it on him so he told him he had 10 days to produce it to his local guarda station (fair enough) he then asked me for my licence and i said i didnt have it and he told me i also had to produce it within 10 days! ( i was a passenger!)

    They garda sound grand.

    Your mate just broke the law and they gave him a 10 day reprieve.

    If your mate had no license and you did have then you are responsible.

    Again this is the law. You can't blame garda at a check point for checking.:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭magicface1


    kjl wrote: »
    Which brings up my next point, there was no sign, I went back and checked, but how do I argue that? I "tell it to the judge" according to the cop, so instead of paying a €60 fine I have to take time off from my job where I make €60 in 30 min to go down to some court room and deal with explaining to the judge why I was not in the wrong. good luck to you.

    ha ha
    kjl wrote: »
    Still not answering my question, why does the cop have to be some egotistical power tripping asshole, he could have dealt with the situation a lot better than he did. Ok I made a mistake, but come on I'm not a criminal.

    Can I ask what age are you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    Taht cahgnes mi pint becuase?

    Well if you can't even spell a simple word, then I question your opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    magicface1 wrote: »
    ha ha
    Can I ask what age are you?

    I'm 29, The point is I can't argue my case without it costing me more money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I've - through my own weakness of being a speed freak - encounter police in ....

    You make this sound unavoidable - like a genetic condition or a disease.

    To be honest, I can't even take valid criticism of the Gardai seriously from people like yourself and the OP because if this is the (no doubt sanitized/subjective) account you're both giving to us here, fuck knows what you are actually like on the road in real life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭Einstein


    kjl wrote: »
    Yeah, you're a moron, who can't spell or click spell check.
    lol

    29 you say?

    lol...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    OP what if you were going up the correct way and some idiot came the wrong way and frightened the sh1t out of you? Would you prefer if the guards just "calm down" and not give that driver a talking to aswell?


    You went the wrong way, and it's obviously not the first time you've been pulled. Get a few refresher driving lessons and it might eliminate some of the Garda attitude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    stovelid wrote: »
    You make this sound unavoidable - like a genetic condition or a disease.

    To be honest, I can't even take valid criticism of the Gardai seriously from people like yourself and the OP because if this is the (no doubt sanitized/subjective) account you're both giving to us here, fuck knows what you are actually like on the road in real life.

    Point taken, and I know there is now way for me to prove that this is how I reacted, but come on, I made a mistake and I feel like I was verbally assaulted. If it was just the guy being a little rude I could take it, but the guy was completely over the top.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    kjl wrote: »
    Not at all, stupid sat nav drove me down the street, didnt see any sign.

    Last time was because my Tax was up about a week.

    I didn't know satnavs came with autopilot.
    kjl wrote: »
    Clearly you missed the point of that one, I'm not questioning weather they are capable, I questioning what kind of girl actually does it.

    You'd prefer they remained at home as a "lady" should. I take it you aren't a fan of females security or soldiers? What do you let your woman do for a living?
    kjl wrote: »
    And yes they caught me, but still no leads on the scumbag who beat up the old lady 4 doors down from me.

    How do you know?
    kjl wrote: »
    Which brings up my next point, there was no sign, I went back and checked, but how do I argue that? I "tell it to the judge" according to the cop, so instead of paying a €60 fine I have to take time off from my job where I make €60 in 30 min to go down to some court room and deal with explaining to the judge why I was not in the wrong. good luck to you.

    If there is no sign there would have been road markings. If not just take a picture. Send the picture and a copy of the fine to the local super with a letter explaining why the ticket was wrongly issued. If you are right and there was no sign or road markings he can cancel the ticket.
    kjl wrote: »
    Still not answering my question, why does the cop have to be some egotistical power tripping asshole, he could have dealt with the situation a lot better than he did. Ok I made a mistake, but come on I'm not a criminal.

    If a person accepts they are in the wrong a garda will usually be quite easy going. If a person argues black is white the garda can get quite exasperated. Let me ask you this, if you had turned up the one way street right into an oncoming car would you still be blaming the garda?
    messrs wrote: »
    was in car with someone and got stopped in routine traffic check and guard asked driver did he have full licence, which he did, he then asked to see it - he didnt have it on him so he told him he had 10 days to produce it to his local guarda station (fair enough) he then asked me for my licence and i said i didnt have it and he told me i also had to produce it within 10 days! ( i was a passenger!)

    In case your friend didn't have a full licence. Some people lie to the shades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    OP what if you were going up the correct way and some idiot came the wrong way and frightened the sh1t out of you? Would you prefer if the guards just "calm down" and not give that driver a talking to aswell?


    You went the wrong way, and it's obviously not the first time you've been pulled. Get a few refresher driving lessons and it might eliminate some of the Garda attitude.

    Well about 3 years ago I had some guy smash into the back of my car and I was civil and calm with him, so if I did see a garda acting in that way, I would whip out my phone and record him. That's how bad it was.

    Say what you want people I understand I made a mistake, Ive openly admitted it, what upset me what the reaction of this guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭magicface1


    kjl wrote: »
    I'm 29, The point is I can't argue my case without it costing me more money.

    Your 29 years old... Your acting like a 17 18 year old giving out about a crap mistake YOU made... I know the garda may have over reacted but ffs. Coming on bitching about every garda over one persons actions and if you make €60 euro every 30 minutes thats €120 per hour (can I ask what job your in and are they employing?).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    messrs wrote: »
    have to say OP i agree with you - i seriously cannot stand them!

    I have to agree. I find them arrogant, rude, rule-breaking and most seem to have a "I-am-the-law-what-are-you-going-to-do-about it" attitude.

    There have been some numerous posts over the years on boards.ie of the Gardai abusing their power or being overly aggressive to members of the public for trivial matters.

    For example, a poster a couple of months ago, stated how he was verbally attacked by a Gardai because he pulled into a petrol station just before a checkpoint.

    It it little surprise to me, that when they get grumble about their super-annuated high-overtime wages, the public have little sympathy for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    k_mac wrote: »
    If there is no sign there would have been road markings. If not just take a picture. Send the picture and a copy of the fine to the local super with a letter explaining why the ticket was wrongly issued. If you are right and there was no sign or road markings he can cancel the ticket.

    Thanks for the advice, I think I will do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    magicface1 wrote: »
    Your 29 years old... Your acting like a 17 18 year old giving out about a crap mistake YOU made... I know the garda may have over reacted but ffs. Coming on bitching about every garda over one persons actions and if you make €60 euro every 30 minutes thats €120 per hour (can I ask what job your in and are they employing?).

    and are you in work at the moment? If so you've just made €120 for bitching about guards for an hour. Not bad going !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    magicface1 wrote: »
    Your 29 years old... Your acting like a 17 18 year old giving out about a crap mistake YOU made... I know the garda may have over reacted but ffs. Coming on bitching about every garda over one persons actions and if you make €60 euro every 30 minutes thats €120 per hour (can I ask what job your in and are they employing?).

    Im a software consultant, and no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭magicface1


    kjl wrote: »
    Im a software consultant, and no.

    nice... do you seriously get paid €120 per hour or was that a over reaction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,678 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    stovelid wrote: »
    You make this sound unavoidable - like a genetic condition or a disease.

    To be honest, I can't even take valid criticism of the Gardai seriously from people like yourself and the OP because if this is the (no doubt sanitized/subjective) account you're both giving to us here, fuck knows what you are actually like on the road in real life.

    I know. I'm a serial rapist. I do 140 on the motorway, which is clearly a 120 zone. I should be locked up for life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    kjl wrote: »
    If you had to deal with the cocksucker I did today you would feel exactly the same way.

    The Garda's probably sayin the same thing in fairness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    magicface1 wrote: »
    nice... do you seriously get paid €120 per hour or was that a over reaction?

    It works out at about that. But I only do about 5 hours of consulting a day. The rest is travel and paper work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    Well folks, I figured I would vent my frustrations here, clearly to no avail :)

    But I'm afraid elvis is correct, I do need to be doing some work now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I know. I'm a serial rapist. I do 140 on the motorway, which is clearly a 120 zone. I should be locked up for life.

    Kind of proves my point really.

    People like you would be getting a truncheon endoscopy if I was a traffic guard.


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