Do ALL men cheat?

thebigbiffo · 25-05-2010 02:29PM

seamus wrote: »

All women are capable of raping, and that's a hugely different statement to saying that all women do in fact rape.
What are you basing this nonsense on?
Believe it or not, the desire to cheat and the desire to have sex are not intrinsically linked. Cheating requires that there is either a lack of respect between partners or that the relationship is failing or incomplete. Simply seeing a sexy woman does not disengage a man's ability to make a rational decision.

There is a world of difference between fantasising about doing something and actually doing it. Otherwise you could extrapolate that most men are capable of being murderers too because we've all imagined killing someone in anger at some point.

yer first quote: i was trying to start my point by saying that it depends on the circumstance that any man is in.

second: i'm obviously not saying it's just a case of 'oh look, a bird with big baps. i dont care anymore about my wife of 50 years and i'm gonna get my ride on'. i'm saying that because every man is hardwired to deep down want to have sex - the different variables in desire etc being a matter of personal taste and experience - and if faced with the perfect woman who pushes the right buttons their desire gets the better and yer shaggin like fiddy.

and on yer most useless point: there's a huge difference between 'imagining killing someone in anger' and a desire or fantasy to kill them. you'd want to go have a chat with someone if yer sittin round all day fantasising about killin someone...yes, it does mean you'd be capable. basically, i've imagined shaggin rosanne barr...but the fantasys about angelina...which one would make me do the dirt?

minidazzler · 25-05-2010 02:37PM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

yer first quote: i was trying to start my point by saying that it depends on the circumstance that any man is in.

second: i'm obviously not saying it's just a case of 'oh look, a bird with big baps. i dont care anymore about my wife of 50 years and i'm gonna get my ride on'. i'm saying that because every man is hardwired to deep down want to have sex - the different variables in desire etc being a matter of personal taste and experience - and if faced with the perfect woman who pushes the right buttons their desire gets the better and yer shaggin like fiddy.

and on yer most useless point: there's a huge difference between 'imagining killing someone in anger' and a desire or fantasy to kill them. you'd want to go have a chat with someone if yer sittin round all day fantasising about killin someone...yes, it does mean you'd be capable. basically, i've imagined shaggin rosanne barr...but the fantasys about angelina...which one would make me do the dirt?

You can't say that only men are hard wired to have sex, and to desire sex, on the most basic of levels women are the same, survival of the species depends on sex. Women are hardwired with the same needs.

So your point could at least be, in the right situation anyone could cheat. Which I do believe is true. But I think the majority of people will not cheat.

I'd take Rosanne Barr TBH, I doubt I could live up to Brad Pitt!

Bastard!

seamus · 25-05-2010 03:10PM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

basically, i've imagined shaggin rosanne barr...but the fantasys about angelina...which one would make me do the dirt?

Angelina doesn't do it for me, but even if Holly Willoughby offered it up on a plate, I wouldn't lose the ability to go "Cheat or no cheat...hmmm". If you're sure that you wouldn't be able to control yourself, then you want to go talk to someone...

Diabhal Beag · 25-05-2010 03:15PM

Thread is sexist

thebigbiffo · 25-05-2010 03:20PM

seamus wrote: »

Angelina doesn't do it for me, but even if Holly Willoughby offered it up on a plate, I wouldn't lose the ability to go "Cheat or no cheat...hmmm". If you're sure that you wouldn't be able to control yourself, then you want to go talk to someone...

i wouldn't lose that ability either, but the point is i'd probably go with cheating after a quick .25 second debate with myself. yes, that probably makes me a cheatin scumbag in some peoples eyes but i'm only tryin to point out that imo most - if not virtually all - men would cheat given the right set of circumstance. ok, the same probably applies to alot of women, it's just that men are probably more likely to let their desires get the better of them.

minidazzler · 25-05-2010 03:21PM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

i wouldn't lose that ability either, but the point is i'd probably go with cheating after a quick .25 second debate with myself. yes, that probably makes me a cheatin scumbag in some peoples eyes but i'm only tryin to point out that imo most - if not virtually all - men would cheat given the right set of circumstance. ok, the same probably applies to alot of women, it's just that men are probably more likely to let their desires get the better of them.

That's stupid, the question is are men cheaters, not are they cheaters in the perfect circumstances.

thebigbiffo · 25-05-2010 03:22PM

minidazzler wrote: »

You can't say that only men are hard wired to have sex, and to desire sex, on the most basic of levels women are the same, survival of the species depends on sex. Women are hardwired with the same needs.

So your point could at least be, in the right situation anyone could cheat. Which I do believe is true. But I think the majority of people will not cheat.

I'd take Rosanne Barr TBH, I doubt I could live up to Brad Pitt! Bastard!

you'd never know...pitt's apparently a chronic dope smoker, he mightn't be too bothered at all

i disagree that the majority of people wouldn't cheat in the 'ideal' scenario...imo most people actually would

AllyBally · 25-05-2010 03:27PM

I understand that. But sex isn't the main focus in a damn relationship. There's sooo much more to that if ya didn't notice. In my opinion it seems as if sex causes all the problems. I hope people realize that sex isn’t love. Sex does not mean that somebody cares about you. Sure it can mean that... It can be great, but not always.

I really do think my friend should just leave this girl. Honestly, because sex is the only thing he his mind at this point. I told him to just leave her if he wants it soo bad instead of looking like a scumbag and cheat.
Seriously, can’t he focus on something else for a hot minute besides getting his dick wet?! Those are the guys that only care about getting laid. They get props for hooking up with numerous girls, but honestly, its gross. I hope you catch something, you most likely deserve it. You’re probably a skeezy dude with no life so you **** random girls to feel better about yourself. The spectrum goes both ways. You’re not cool for hooking up with a **** ton of people. It's gross. I’m sure the sex wasn’t worth it when your STD Test comes back positive for some venereal disease. Have fun with your herpes meds. Same goes for the girls on that last part.

thebigbiffo · 25-05-2010 03:27PM

minidazzler wrote: »

That's stupid, the question is are men cheaters, not are they cheaters in the perfect circumstances.

yeah, true tbh. kinda deviated a bit from the point here. i did vote no though...was only trying to expand the argument from a simple yes/no answer.

Hannibal Smith · 25-05-2010 03:32PM

AllyBally wrote: »

I understand that. But sex isn't the main focus in a damn relationship. There's sooo much more to that if ya didn't notice. In my opinion it seems as if sex causes all the problems. I hope people realize that sex isn’t love. Sex does not mean that somebody cares about you. Sure it can mean that... It can be great, but not always.

I really do think my friend should just leave this girl. Honestly, because sex is the only thing he his mind at this point. I told him to just leave her if he wants it soo bad instead of looking like a scumbag and cheat.
Seriously, can’t he focus on something else for a hot minute besides getting his dick wet?! Most guys get props for hooking up with numerous girls, but honestly, its gross. I hope you catch something, you most likely deserve it. You’re probably a skeezy dude with no life so you **** random girls to feel better about yourself. The spectrum goes both ways. You’re not cool for hooking up with a **** ton of people. It's gross. I’m sure the sex wasn’t worth it when your STD Test comes back positive for some venereal disease. Have fun with your herpes meds. Same goes for the girls on that last part.

Why is it that two people can’t get involved just for the sake of genuinely liking each other these days? Is it too much these days to have more than a physical & sexual attraction to somebody? I will be the first to say that looks most certainly do matter to me. They are definitely not the only thing that matters though. You have to be physically attracted to somebody to even pursue anything more with them, but you can’t build a relationship purely based on the physicality. That would be the definition of shallow. The world does not revolve around sex. But hey, some people think otherwise so whatever. Sure its pleasureful & its great for reproducing, but why can’t you do these things with somebody you actually care about & that cares for you? Don’t forget about love. It’s beautiful. Better than any of the lays you’re gonna get on any given drunken weekend. Just remember that. But honestly how great was that 30 minutes of sweaty, probably awkward, sex? I’m sure it was alright… While it lasted

are you sure you're in the right thread?

:D

Lemegeton · 25-05-2010 03:42PM

my mate is married with kids and while he thinks an affair is wrong he has had one night stands and does not regret it. he thinks that a one night stand is purely physical and because no emotion is involved its not a betrayal. its total bull**** if you ask me.
i came close to cheating on my girlfriend at a xmas party and i was pissed drunk and still managed to not do it. so no not all men cheat

itsallaboutheL · 25-05-2010 03:46PM

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Thread is sexist

I'd still get up on it though...

Cinful · 25-05-2010 03:51PM

jellybeans wrote: »

ALL men cheat

Depends upon how you define cheat? Former US president Bill Clinton took 6 months to define the word "is?"

AllyBally · 25-05-2010 03:57PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

:facepalm:

This ''guy you know'' is better off getting out of that relationship as she is clearly a nutjob. Sex is a healthy and ESSENTIAL part of a relationship, he'd be a fúcking idiot to tie the knot with someone like that.

Do you not think women cheat?

There's sooo much more to that if ya didn't notice. In my opinion it seems as if sex causes all the problems. I hope people realize that sex isn’t love. Sex does not mean that somebody cares about you. Sure it can mean that... It can be great, but not always.
I really do think my friend should just leave this girl. Honestly, because sex is the only thing he his mind at this point. I told him to just leave her if he wants it soo bad instead of looking like a scumbag and cheat.
Seriously, can’t he focus on something else for a hot minute besides getting his dick wet?! Those are the guys that only care about getting laid. They get props for hooking up with numerous girls, but honestly, its gross. I hope you catch something, you most likely deserve it. You’re probably a skeezy dude with no life so you **** random girls to feel better about yourself. The spectrum goes both ways. You’re not cool for hooking up with a **** ton of people. It's gross. I’m sure the sex wasn’t worth it when your STD Test comes back positive for some venereal disease. Have fun with your herpes meds. Same goes for the girls on that last part.

ibarelycare · 25-05-2010 04:14PM

AllyBally wrote: »

There's sooo much more to that if ya didn't notice. In my opinion it seems as if sex causes all the problems. I hope people realize that sex isn’t love. Sex does not mean that somebody cares about you. Sure it can mean that... It can be great, but not always.
I really do think my friend should just leave this girl. Honestly, because sex is the only thing he his mind at this point. I told him to just leave her if he wants it soo bad instead of looking like a scumbag and cheat.
Seriously, can’t he focus on something else for a hot minute besides getting his dick wet?! Those are the guys that only care about getting laid. They get props for hooking up with numerous girls, but honestly, its gross. I hope you catch something, you most likely deserve it. You’re probably a skeezy dude with no life so you **** random girls to feel better about yourself. The spectrum goes both ways. You’re not cool for hooking up with a **** ton of people. It's gross. I’m sure the sex wasn’t worth it when your STD Test comes back positive for some venereal disease. Have fun with your herpes meds. Same goes for the girls on that last part.

Someone needs to get laid :cool:

Kasabian · 25-05-2010 04:16PM

PK2008 wrote: »

I heard once that all French men cheat, and thats the women are fine with it

That handball still haunts me

Kasabian · 25-05-2010 04:16PM

ibarelycare wrote: »

Someone needs to get laid :cool:

You offering :pac::)

Hannibal Smith · 25-05-2010 04:30PM

is it bad that I keep reading the

Seriously, can’t he focus on something else for a hot minute besides getting his dick wet?!

bit

--LOS-- · 25-05-2010 04:31PM

No of course not all men cheat, same as the way not all women think that all men cheat!

Jaxxy · 25-05-2010 04:54PM

AllyBally wrote: »

There's sooo much more to that if ya didn't notice. In my opinion it seems as if sex causes all the problems. I hope people realize that sex isn’t love. Sex does not mean that somebody cares about you. Sure it can mean that... It can be great, but not always.
I really do think my friend should just leave this girl. Honestly, because sex is the only thing he his mind at this point. I told him to just leave her if he wants it soo bad instead of looking like a scumbag and cheat.
Seriously, can’t he focus on something else for a hot minute besides getting his dick wet?! Those are the guys that only care about getting laid. They get props for hooking up with numerous girls, but honestly, its gross. I hope you catch something, you most likely deserve it. You’re probably a skeezy dude with no life so you **** random girls to feel better about yourself. The spectrum goes both ways. You’re not cool for hooking up with a **** ton of people. It's gross. I’m sure the sex wasn’t worth it when your STD Test comes back positive for some venereal disease. Have fun with your herpes meds. Same goes for the girls on that last part.

Of course sex is a very important part of any relationship. It can be the catalyst that ends a relationship. If the sex life wanes then it can cause a wealth of unrelated problems that crop up due to frustration and a lack of understanding with regard to your OH's needs. No relationship is complete without a healthy sex life and attitude toward it. The act of sex itself isn't what is causing the problems, it's the attitude.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying your body and fulfilling your own needs. There's nothing wrong with one night stands as long as everyone takes the obvious precautions. There's nothing wrong with caring about whether or not you get laid. Why the hell would you wish diseases on someone who enjoys sex? Sex can be lots of fun. I suggest maybe trying it sometime.

ibarelycare · 25-05-2010 04:56PM

JaxxYChicK wrote: »

Of course sex is a very important part of any relationship. It can be the catalyst that ends a relationship. If the sex life wanes then it can cause a wealth of unrelated problems that crop up due to frustration and a lack of understanding with regard to your OH's needs. No relationship is complete without a healthy sex life and attitude toward it. The act of sex itself isn't what is causing the problems, it's the attitude.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying your body and fulfilling your own needs. There's nothing wrong with one night stands as long as everyone takes the obvious precautions. There's nothing wrong with caring about whether or not you get laid. Why the hell would you wish diseases on someone who enjoys sex? Sex can be lots of fun. I suggest maybe trying it sometime.

+1

Good post

YFlyer · 25-05-2010 05:01PM

jellybeans wrote: »

I said to my flat mate that it was bull and that that was like saying ALL women cheat and he said "no thats different, girls are different to guys!"

He wants to sleep with you.

MagicMarker · 25-05-2010 05:07PM

ibarelycare wrote: »

+1

Good post

+2

Pyr0 · 25-05-2010 05:12PM

What a stupid question.

No, not all men cheat.

LeahK · 25-05-2010 05:17PM

Sad thread, but to be honest not a silly as most of you are pointing out.
From my experience most men (I know..before you get up on the horse that is high) have done the dirty at some stage. Even my mates who are totally in love with their girlfriends or claim to be,have strayed. Its left me personally, very disillusioned by men and their ability to be trusted.

How can women be 100% trust men when all we are hit with every day is some other (semi)famous ar$e ripping off his gorgeous wife. IMO women overthink everything anyways so this constant news of infidelity does nothing to improve mens PR. Literally every week theres another story and its getting really old now. If women do it to how come we dont hear about it every 2nd day? Maybe we are just smarter

I can totally understand why some ladies are asking this question....

IMO, dip the wick =break up your marriage/relationship first. No excuses.

constitutionus · 25-05-2010 05:36PM

of course not !

but women arent interested in those guys so you'd be forgiven for being mistaken

K_user · 25-05-2010 08:52PM

LeahK wrote: »

Sad thread, but to be honest not a silly as most of you are pointing out.
From my experience most men (I know..before you get up on the horse that is high) have done the dirty at some stage. Even my mates who are totally in love with their girlfriends or claim to be,have strayed. Its left me personally, very disillusioned by men and their ability to be trusted.

How can women be 100% trust men when all we are hit with every day is some other (semi)famous ar$e ripping off his gorgeous wife. IMO women overthink everything anyways so this constant news of infidelity does nothing to improve mens PR. Literally every week theres another story and its getting really old now. If women do it to how come we dont hear about it every 2nd day? Maybe we are just smarter

I can totally understand why some ladies are asking this question....

IMO, dip the wick =break up your marriage/relationship first. No excuses.

On that point the media is filled with stories of young women with older richer men. Of young women who's dream is to be a WAG.

So how can men trust women? After all the media tells us that you are only in it for the money. And that women can force themselves to love and have sex with a man purely for what he can provide.

So should men be disillusioned too? Or can we just accept that not everyone is to be tarred with the same brush?

GirlOfGlass · 25-05-2010 11:24PM

I know a good few guys who have cheated on their girlfriends, and they've been with them years. You'd think they'd be the type who'd stay faithful, since they should love each so much and the likes.
But I don't think that all men cheat.

Cheaters shouldn't bother being in relationships anyway.

Liam Byrne · 25-05-2010 11:29PM

I don't know which has me more surprised

(a) this thread is still going
(b) 98 people are ignorant enough to pass judgement on people they haven't met

Wibbs · 25-05-2010 11:35PM

Personally? I've known way more women than men to cheat. Physically and emotionally. Hell they've cheated with and on me. Do I think now that all women are cheats. Good god man, no. A daft notion IMH.

I've never cheated myself. No bigging myself up on that score BTW. It just doesnt nor never did occur to me. If it did? I probably would TBH. I'm impulsive. Hence Ive been the other guy in the past. So I can defo understand those who might. Even more I would admire those who are tempted then dont. I'm no saint simply because I'm not tempted. It's not my thing it seems.

Do ALL men cheat?

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